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School violence appalls officials/ Students **Cheer** as Teacher is Beaten!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-te.md.ci.teacher10sapr10,0,601646.story ^

Posted on 04/10/2008 4:26:59 AM PDT by wintertime

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To: onedoug; stylecouncilor

ping


161 posted on 04/10/2008 9:59:01 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Tired of Taxes
Hm?.... A miniature Philly?

Let me guess. Camden? Chester?

162 posted on 04/10/2008 10:00:23 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

No. I’ll freepmail you.


163 posted on 04/10/2008 10:13:29 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: joe fonebone
We never had mandatory military service. There's nothing to bring back.

Plus, you don't want these animals in the military anyway.

164 posted on 04/10/2008 10:17:51 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: rock_lobsta

I agree with you. By the way, in some states, it is a felony for the principal to not report crimes like drug possession, sales, assault, rape, etc. Maybe people should start reporting the incidents directly to their SBI’s, and cc the principal so he does what must be done-prosecute violent punks. The teachers ought to do it as well, and see if their precious NEA comes to their defense.


165 posted on 04/10/2008 10:34:35 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: brytlea

Hello brytlea,

I was sticking with the medical metaphor when I said “compromised.” As in compromised immune system, one that is breached and hampered in doing its work. I was not referring to moral compromise.

To be specific, when a parent works out the budget and makes the career choices and the major financial paths are taken, the parent is to some extent relying on the public school system to educate the child for free (taxes being beside the point here). Then when the parent wants to remove the child from public school, how does he pay for it? He’s supposed to take a second job to pay for it, or if he homeschools, is he supposed to quit the first job to stay home with the child? And then what happens to the mortgage and the car payments?

And so, the govt with its free babysitting and schooling has gotten that parent hooked, gotten into his system and infused it with these freebies that one can’t easily remove from the system.

I do not mean to say that a parent doesn’t WANT to do so, merely that once he places a child in public school, it is difficult or financially impossible to make the life adjustments necessary to remove the child.

And that makes public education a lot more insidious and crippling than most other govt “benefits.”


166 posted on 04/10/2008 10:43:25 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Dr. Ursus

“True, when these areas finally explode,The Civil War will
pale in comparison. “

It will be largely confined to urban cities and deteriorated suburbs. The riots of the 60’s will look like hippie love-fests.


167 posted on 04/10/2008 10:44:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fourth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

The Civil War from the mid-1800s, or the one on the horizon?


168 posted on 04/10/2008 11:21:37 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: taraytarah
It seems to be something school administrators are "trained" to say

(Not meant to be a generalized statement....I'm suggesting schools wherein student violence has become alarmingly frequent.) I am extremely thankful for administrators who still take a stand against those that threaten educational environments. Not an enviable position.

169 posted on 04/10/2008 11:34:38 AM PDT by taraytarah (Tagline Site Under Construction)
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To: brytlea

“Oh my, so you mean that this doesn’t happen in every single government school??? Sorry for the sarcasm, but it’s frustrating when these incidents are used to paint every public school as a hell hole.

susie”

Yep, it certainly is along with all teachers are evil, the NEA rules everything, that WE are responsible for allowing things to get to this point is NEVER mentioned, etc, etc


170 posted on 04/10/2008 12:16:18 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: wintertime
Sounds like Lord of the Flies High. perhaps they should equip all of the teachers with tasers. Yo! Don't tase me teach!
171 posted on 04/10/2008 12:22:03 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: wintertime

Still if you are a strong parent you have to look at your kids and promise them you will do what is right for them and by them. Parents still make the difference.


172 posted on 04/10/2008 12:31:55 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter
Still if you are a strong parent you have to look at your kids and promise them you will do what is right for them and by them.( cubreporter)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Doing what is right with regard to this particular school would be for a parent to **never** to send their child there.

This would be true even if it meant that the child remained illiterate and innumerate. A school like this is **that** toxic! I **seriously** mean it.

173 posted on 04/10/2008 12:47:35 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

I know what you are saying but...I also think there are some kids in there that DO want to learn but they are invisible due to the troublemakers. It would be nice if the parents that want their kids to move forward could meet once a week with a teacher and find out what would be required for them to take this task on themselves AWAY from this school.


174 posted on 04/10/2008 1:54:31 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter

Real Simple.. get them the hell out of the school.

Public schools are to education, what public housing is to housing. You send your child there as last resort, not first choice. The sooner people stop smiling and sending their kids off to these insane asylums daily, the sooner the mess they fester and propogate will end.


175 posted on 04/10/2008 1:57:53 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: maica

Many of those children (if not all) enter public schools feral. Talk to people who teach kindergarten and pre-K. Those kids come to school out of control. Now, I agree the schools don’t do a very good job of civilizing them, but you can put a lot of that blame right back on the parents and the courts. No teacher WANTS to teach kids like that. No school administrater WANTS to deal with kids like that.
susie


176 posted on 04/10/2008 2:25:42 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

I’ve taught in some of the worst ghetto schools in this country and there are MANY good kids even in the most abysmal hellholes.
Yet they are intimidated by the thugs and criminal elements.As are way too many of the teachers and administrators.


177 posted on 04/10/2008 2:28:35 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: wintertime
This is a perfect opportunity for you to show us just how great a teacher you really are.

Volunteer to take the little misguided waif in and make her a solid citizen.

Heck I will even spring for the bus ticket.

What do you say, ready to put your money where your mouth is?

178 posted on 04/10/2008 2:31:42 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Perhaps true for some, but I was a stay at home Mom who pulled her children out of Catholic school (yes, we had to scrimp to put them there but wanted to do the best we could for them) so that they could go into the Gifted and Talented program offered in the public school. It was a great program, and I will never regret the decision. I might have homeschooled if it had been an option, I don’t know.

Anyway, it’s so difficult to make assumptions about why people do what they do (altho I do it myself). I find that when talking about public schools the posts tend to be quite simplistic, as if the problem is black and white. It’s not. While public schools are crawling with problems today, in the past American public education has been very good. It could be again, although I would love to see something like a voucher program as I don’t see the current entrenched leadership leaving of their own accord.

susie


179 posted on 04/10/2008 2:33:10 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Travis McGee

In 1974,there was a police strike in Baltimore and the looters and rioters were out in force.


180 posted on 04/10/2008 2:36:16 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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