just as they ignored that saddam had hid planes in the desert
Posted on 04/11/2008 8:33:43 AM PDT by drzz
An upcoming joint US-Israel report on the September 6 IAF strike on a Syrian facility will claim that former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein transferred weapons of mass destruction to the country, Channel 2 stated Monday.
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The french did that for two reasons:
First, frence was complicit just like russia in selling precursors and necessary equipment and supplies for saddam to re constitute his program, and was doing so at great profit behind the UN and the US’s backs. France was profiting handsomely for it. its not the first time. France was a co founder of the Isreali nuclear deterrent too, by the way. I dont mind that, but point it out as an example of france being a serious WMD proliferator.
Second, France not only allowed the delay to cover their tracks by allowing the goods to be moved, but it allowed them to sell other things too. Like, perhaps, anti tank missiles, night vision systems, surface to air missiles, and Jamming devices supposedly helpful in disrupting JDAM guidance kis.
A third potential reason is loss of revenue. seeing saddam toppled means they would lose all that under the table money and long term business.
Yeah. gotta love our friends the french. Way to go NATO. The germans arent much better. do a look at what Seimens sells, and to whom. youd be shocked, as i was.
so insofar as the french are concerned, you know why the delay now.
Sad but true. The country just gets more and more stupid. I shudder to think what our future will be. Public schools dole out leftist propoganda day after day to school populations that are up to 70% from single parent homes where they get very little support and discipline. It almost makes me happy to be in such poor health.
We already *knew* this—could this finally be the proof that
President Bush was RIGHT?!?
This flimsy story has already been posted.
Looks like the Dims are in trouble. Didn’t they have access to this intel?
This is what I said all along. What did they think was in those truck convoys? Tomatoes?
Before the *first Gulf War...But then the Iranians wouldn’t give them back afterwards, so that’s why he sent his ABC stuff to Syria...that is, what the Russians didn’t take back home.
just as they ignored that saddam had hid planes in the desert
Surely you jest...yeah, I know, don't call you Surely...given the Dem activists in that organization. These folks said it a long time ago:
On June 9th [2004], the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.
The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."
"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.
Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.
"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.
Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."
In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.
"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.
Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.
In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.
"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."
"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).
"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."
"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."
See also: What Charles Duelfer Missed
Moonbat mentality.
1) Well-intentioned people in different branches of government and/or CIA vs. WH have different ideas as to the impact of information. For ex., in Afghanistan, the CIA's line was "we couldn't be involved," even though we were obviously involved. Thus the charade of all weapons being Soviet or East Bloc that were "captured" had to be maintained until 1986 when Casey finally approved the Stingers.
One group favored a "slow bleed" and thought that if we didn't push the Soviets to the point that they actually increased their troop involvement and won the war, we would be able to slowly tear them apart. This was the official Reagan strategy, because they were focused on building up the strategic assets, on economic war, and on the Contras.
The second group, led by CIA rouge insiders, Charlie Wilson, and several influential civilians, sought to "win." They tried to push the CIA to get more involved. But the CIA desperately feared that too much American involvement would result in the Soviets simply moving on Pakistan and/or getting India to do it, with Russia's support. So you can see the validity of their concerns.
At its peak, the operations involved SAUDIA ARABIA matching all U.S. spending for the muj on ISRAELI designed and built weapons (which were used as long as there were no Stars of David on them), as well as CHINESE provided weapons, all of which were funneled through PAKISTAN without a single identifying American mark on them!!!
2) What comes out is that there are very good reasons for keeping things secret. Gust Avrakodos, Wilson's partner-in-crime, thought that he as a spy was at his best when he accomplished his mission and the press was convinced he had failed. Therefore, "bad press" for CIA operations was often an indicator that, in fact, they had achieved all their goals.
One could therefore conceive of any number of reasons not to publicize that the WMDs were spirited away with, say, RUSSIAN, FRENCH, or GERMAN assistance under the agreement that the SYRIANS would lock them up or destroy them. Perhaps Syria reneged; perhaps the Israelis just learned of the agreement; perhaps they decided they couldn't trust Syria; perhaps the French or Germans suddenly "gave permission" to take them out . . . .
National Security & Defense
WMDs Found in Iraq Posted Nov 9, 2005
Contrary to ongoing reports by mainstream media outlets, WMDs have been found in Iraq, so reports New York Times best-selling author Richard Miniter in his new book, Disinformation.
Consider these shocking facts:
• Found: 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium
• Found: 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons
• Found: Roadside bomb loaded with sarin gas
• Found: 1,000 radioactive materials--ideal for radioactive dirty bombs
• Found: 17 chemical warheads--some containing cyclosarin, a nerve agent five times more powerful than sarin
Plus the anthrax bombs UNMOVIC was testing in Dec 2003, from USA Today, link posted in #86 just above.
That's because other wartime administrations were competent.
Hopefully, however I have some doubts that this is going to happen, i.e. US officials announcing that Saddam WMD went to Syria. Let us wait and see.
If he had any decency left in him - it would have been the day he praised the socialist leftist abortionist Obama.
Yossef BODANSKY - The secret history of the Iraq war
BODANSKY is the ex-director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare
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In The Secret History of the Iraq War, bestselling author Yossef Bodansky offers an astonishing new account of the war and its aftermath — a war that was doomed from the start, he argues, by the massive and systemic failures of the American intelligence community. Drawing back the curtain of politicized debate, Bodansky — a longtime expert and director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare — reveals that nearly every aspect of America’s conflict with Iraq has been misunderstood, in both the court of public opinion and the White House itself. Among his revelations:
The most authoritative account of Saddam Hussein’s support for Islamic terrorist organizations — including extensive new reporting on his active cooperation with al-Qaeda in Iraq long after the fall of Baghdad
Extensive new information on Iraq’s major chemical and biological weapons programs — including North Korea’s role in building still-undetected secret storage facilities and Iraq’s transfer of banned materials to Syria, Iran, and Libya
The first account of Saddam’s plan for Iraq, Syria, and Iran to join Yasser Arafat’s Palestinian forces to attack Israel, throw the region into turmoil, and upend the American campaign
The untold story of Russia’s attempt to launch a coup against Saddam before the war — and how the CIA thwarted it by ensuring that Iraq was forewarned
Dramatic details about Saddam’s final days on the run, including the untold story of a near miss with U.S. troops and the stunning revelation that Saddam was already in custody at the time of his capture — and was probably betrayed by members of his own Tikriti clan
The definitive account of the anti-U.S. resistance and uprising in Iraq, as the American invasion ignited an Islamic jihad and Iran-inspired intifada, threatening to plunge the region into irreversible chaos fueled by hatred and revenge
Revelations about the direct involvement of Osama bin Laden in the terrorism campaigns in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the Middle East — including the major role played by Iran and HizbAllah in al-Qaeda’s operations
The response to that one is that Iraq manufactured these weapons and were only transported to Syria after the U.S. invasion.
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