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End Game On With Sadr Should Bring Sadr’s End ( What will Iran do next?)
Strata Sphere ^ | Friday, April 18th, 2008 at 9:57 am. | AJStrata

Posted on 04/18/2008 2:19:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

I was collecting articles on a post showing the end game coming in Iraq for Sadr and his Mahdi Army but Bill Roggio beat me to the punch today in a much better post than I was going to put together. Update - some interesting tidbits inside Roggio’s piece are worth emphasizing:

Iraq’s Department of Border enforcement also seized a large shipment of roadside bombs, landmines, and explosives as it was smuggled from Iran into Iraq’s Diyala province.

The Mahdi Army appears to be striking back by targeting political and religious leaders in the Baghdad South. Over the period of two days, assassination attempts were carried out against the governor of Najaf province and a senior aide to Sistani in Wasit province.

It seems Iran and the Mahdi are getting desperate. The weapons going into Diyala are possibly for al-Qaeda to use, since that is their region of Iraq. It would be another indicator of Iran’s support to both al-Qaeda and the Mahdi. The assassination attempts are clearly attacks Iraq’s government, now a US ally. This is a dangerous game for Sadr and Iran to play. We will not allow defeat easily. - end update

Needless to say Sadr has refused to disarm despite statements from Grand Ayatollah Sistani in Najaf that Sadr must obey the law and disband his militia. Here is the response from the Mahdi claiming they won’t disarm until the Shiite clerics tell them to - again? Here is a great piece at Pajama’s Media by the owner of the blog site Iraq The Model who notes the end game is in play:

The ongoing confrontation highlights a dramatic change in the inclination of the Iraqi leadership, which decided to face the challenge with unwavering resolve instead of shrinking away. We have learned from the experience of the last five years that unresolved fights tend to be very costly in the long run, as we will have to deal with recurrent fights over and over again. It can be understood from Maliki’s words that he came to realize that the decision to disband or exterminate illegal military entities should have been made a long time ago.

At this point neither side is happy with the results and I think that both have made up their minds to go to war because each one thinks his side is closer to winning and has greater backing from the public than his rival. However, I believe that Sadr is making the mistake of thinking that what worked for previous battles would be equally effective in future ones. I strongly think that if a final battle is to take place, it will unfold with a bitter defeat for Sadr militarily and politically; the balance of power by far favors the state in spite of the difficulty of the situation.

The Iraqi leadership represented by Maliki is standing before a historic opportunity to strengthen the foundations of the rule of law. This opportunity has been made available by the decision of the Shia to renounce and expel the extremists amongst them, a decision that was long avoided because of sectarian considerations that were proven wrong later.

Not only is the end game at hand, it looks likely Sadr’s movement will be destroyed. And we can see evidence that things are coming to a head as Iraqi forces are surrounding Basra strongholds again today (see here).

Also of interest is how the other Shiite groups are playing it against Sadr. Sadr’s main rival is a cleric named Hakim (sp?) who had a rival militia which was integrated into the Iraqi security forces. His group notes that the only ones bearing arms against Iraq is al-Qaeda and the Mahdi.

Finally, Ralph Peters is royally PO’d with the lies and misinformation coming from the SurrenderMedia and notes the Iraqi forces are operating 95% as required, which is much better than America did in its history.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqueda; basra; iran; iraq; mahdiarmy; sadr; sadrcity
Al-Queda mentioned also....wow!
1 posted on 04/18/2008 2:19:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

Endgame ping!


2 posted on 04/18/2008 2:22:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Happy trails Mookie .


3 posted on 04/18/2008 2:25:10 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bush to Iraqi leadership - You better get your $hit together before a Democrat President is elected or you’re screwed.


4 posted on 04/18/2008 2:26:11 PM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

GREAT friggin’ post.


5 posted on 04/18/2008 2:28:02 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Al-Queda! in Iraq? Can’t be all the democRATs say there is no such thing as Al-Queda in Iraq.... who're going to believe?:-()
6 posted on 04/18/2008 2:30:57 PM PDT by geo40xyz (McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Do you really believe mookie is going to get whacked?...no way...i have no faith in the government...

mookie will enter the states set up a 7 eleven or walmart and distribute ak47 in the black market and still nothing will be done...

I've lost faith in government...politicians are only out for a power trip...

7 posted on 04/18/2008 2:31:16 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (911 Republican)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iraq’s Department of Border enforcement also seized a large shipment of roadside bombs, landmines, and explosives as it was smuggled from Iran .................. Time to sneak the goods back over the border to the Iranian resistance movement.


8 posted on 04/18/2008 2:31:44 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Clinton/Obama .. Obama/ Clinton ... Mc Cain/Obama .. Mc Cain/Clinton ... What a Choice!? Puleeeze!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
See this too...:

Media's War Lies (Good Read)

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Front Page Magazine ^ | 4/18/2008 | Ralph Peters

Posted on Fri 18 Apr 2008 10:53:15 AM PDT by tobyhill

LIKE many Americans, I get angry at biased "reporting" about Iraq and the spin from dishonest pundits. Usually, I get over it quickly, since my expectations of the media are pretty low. But sometimes a Big Lie just won't let go. And the lefty lie that the Iraqi military is a hopeless failure must be answered.

Yes, we all know that left-wing media outlets, such as the dying New York Times, need Iraq to fail to redeem their credibility. They'll do all they can to dismiss any sign of progress.

But the perverted gloating over recent Iraqi military operations in Basra combines willful ignorance of military affairs with a shameless manipulation of the facts. Yes, some local Iraqi police and new military recruits ran away. But that was all that the media reported.

9 posted on 04/18/2008 2:34:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

YES!


10 posted on 04/18/2008 2:36:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

YES!


11 posted on 04/18/2008 2:36:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Posted this earl;ier:

U.S. Begins Erecting Wall in Sadr City

Well that headline should really say Iraq is Erecting Walls,. our tanks are just there helping....

12 posted on 04/18/2008 2:40:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

>> Iraq’s Department of Border enforcement also seized a large shipment of roadside bombs, landmines, and explosives as it was smuggled from Iran into Iraq’s Diyala province.

To a rational administration that was more concerned with the success and safety of our troops than with politics, THIS EVENT ALONE would be enough to unleash the dogs of war on Iran.

So sad that this is merely the most recent in a long history of provocations by Iran (that we will do NOTHING about).


13 posted on 04/18/2008 2:40:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: All; Tennessean4Bush; HAL9000; Starman417
Related threads:

Maliki’s Government Reinvigorated After Taking On Sadr’s Mahdi Army

AND:

Sadrists vow to keep the Mahdi Army [Going down with the ship]

Iraq - Iraqi troops surround Sadr office in Basra

Basra residents welcome Iraq army crackdown

14 posted on 04/18/2008 2:47:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
Click here for articles Tagged with SADR
15 posted on 04/18/2008 2:51:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“Time to sneak the goods back over the border to the Iranian resistance movement.”
And while they’re at it, they can FedEx Mookie’s head back to the mullahs in Teheran.
Hey, I can hope.......


16 posted on 04/18/2008 2:52:20 PM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not only is the end game at hand, it looks likely Sadr’s movement will be destroyed. And we can see evidence that things are coming to a head as Iraqi forces are surrounding Basra strongholds again today (see here).

If Maliki and the Iraqi government hang tough, Sadr and his thugs will go down.

Al Qaeda in Iraq is already well on its way to its demise.

Hang tough, Iraq. The result is worth it.

17 posted on 04/18/2008 3:10:11 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great article by AJStrata. Thanks for posting. 105 comments worthwhile to read at the “Iraq the Model” link in the article.


18 posted on 04/18/2008 3:14:55 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nervous Tick

Hummm. So Iran may be helping Al-Quaida after all. We’ve known that Iran has used many methods to destabilize Iraq, among them is AQI. John McCain has been grilled for his “mis-statement” over this (which he immediately disavowed) but he was just speaking another inconvenient truth to the MSM.


19 posted on 04/18/2008 3:16:59 PM PDT by DJtex
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I agree, wow! Thanks for the post.

BTW, "SurrenderMedia" - I like it!

20 posted on 04/18/2008 4:31:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: kbennkc

On my blog, I made up a scenario where a joint Israeli-American strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities would come at the same time a joint strike at Syria’s plants and also B-52’s took out Iran’s Ristani and the A-thug’s homes. In Syria, they take out Assad. And Special Forces take out Mookie with a bullet in his head. This will never be done, of course. Bush is simply not up to it.


21 posted on 04/18/2008 5:33:23 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: phillyfanatic
..On my blog, I made up a scenario where a joint Israeli-American strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities would come at the same time a joint strike at Syria’s plants and also B-52’s took out Iran’s Ristani and the A-thug’s homes. In Syria, they take out Assad. And Special Forces take out Mookie with a bullet in his head. This will never be done, of course.

That's a Dale Brown novel right there. Nice.

22 posted on 04/18/2008 5:42:55 PM PDT by SGCOS (Life's a bitch, we don't need to elect one.)
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To: PGalt

Thanks for the info.


23 posted on 04/18/2008 6:10:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: colorado tanker; nuconvert; phillyfanatic; SGCOS; PGalt
More good reading:

AEI scholar Michael Rubin's very sober analysis of Iran (Interview with Hugh Hewitt)

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AEI scholar Michael Rubin's very sober analysis of Iran

April 16, 2008

HH: Joined now by Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute, one of the country’s leading authorities on the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Michael Rubin, last week, Vice President Cheney was on the program, and I talked to him about 12th Imamism, and about Ahmadinejad. And the left has gone crazy, and they’ve been throwing bricks at him, because he said we should take very seriously what Ahmadinejad says, and we should be concerned about sort of a millennialist outlook. And I’ve been waiting to talk to you ever since this controversy broke out, and to get your reaction to the idea that the people of the United States government have to pay attention to the theology of Iran.

What do you think?

24 posted on 04/18/2008 6:24:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks


25 posted on 04/18/2008 6:48:01 PM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: phillyfanatic
Bush is simply not up to it.,

Maybe you could rewrite it , that since no green light was given a Spec 4 cook bashed Mookie's head in with a frozen chunk of mystery meat .

26 posted on 04/18/2008 7:43:19 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: kbennkc

No they need to lace Mookie’s tea with some bad acid: LSD, which will have him trip and flip out of his mind, and stumble off a cliff./Just Asking - seoul62......


27 posted on 04/18/2008 7:54:47 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: seoul62
No they need to lace Mookie’s tea with some bad acid: LSD, which will have him trip and flip out of his mind, and stumble off a cliff./Just Asking - seoul62......

That would work for me , just so long as no good acid was wasted and the CIA was not allowed to foul it up . The way this freaking lucky Mookie has been though , I would not be surprised to see him do a Geronimo , a PLF and run off .

28 posted on 04/18/2008 8:05:20 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: kbennkc

To add on to it: as Mookie is tripping out of his mind, and stumbling or running to the cliff - have Helen Thomas and Madeline Albright do a belly dance for him, while eight drag-queens pelt him with cream pies and rotten eggs./Just Asking - seoul62.......


29 posted on 04/18/2008 8:17:25 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Al-Queda mentioned also....wow!

Yeah....Where in the World is Ayman Zawahiri...?

I doubt he's fund raising and lobbying in Waziristan.
30 posted on 04/18/2008 8:22:21 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The issue seems to be that many at State think there are students, profs, intellectuals just waiting to start a counter rev. It simply is a dream. They do not have the guns nor any inside support from the Army. The theology of the Madhi is insane, of course, but more and more outsiders in the ME are starting to ‘wish’ this were true since they are still Third World nations in spite of oil. They hate Western civ. because it overtook the old Empires including the Ottomans and envy has grown with an excess of radical thought which has been there since the old Sepoy Revolt in India. Frankly, I am sick of the Islamofascists and would support any strike by Israel to blast those plants as well as Tehran. They will never give up radicalizing all Muslims and inside their hearts, my bet is, that most Muslims secretly support Osama and the radicals.


31 posted on 04/19/2008 11:34:09 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Goodbye Mookie! Iraq won’t miss you.


32 posted on 04/19/2008 3:45:59 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Slap leather, Al Sadr.

I’m not there, but my cousin is. Be cool, and quick.


33 posted on 04/19/2008 3:48:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale; Allegra
NY Times article ...FR Thread:

Iraqi Army Seizes Basra From Militia as Cleric Threatens New Uprising

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From the article:

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Whether to counter those allegations or simply because, as many Iraqis have recently speculated, Mr. Sadr’s stock has recently fallen in Iranian eyes, the Iranian ambassador, Hassan Kazemi Qumi, on Saturday expressed his government’s strong support for the Iraqi assault on Basra. He even called the militias in Basra “outlaws,” the same term that Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki has used to describe them.

“The idea of the government in Basra was to fight outlaws,” Mr. Qumi said. “This was the right of the government and the responsibility of the government. And in my opinion the government was able to achieve a positive result in Basra.”

34 posted on 04/19/2008 4:11:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: G8 Diplomat
What I've never understood is why Mookie, a Shiite - who's ass was saved from Saddam's Sunnis - is so anti-American.

What I've also never understood is how he's managed to stay alive.

35 posted on 04/19/2008 4:12:25 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: ErnBatavia

What I've never understood is why Mookie, a Shiite - who's ass was saved from Saddam's Sunnis - is so anti-American.

Because he's a tool of Iran, whose government is anti-American.
36 posted on 04/19/2008 4:14:49 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: G8 Diplomat
Because he's a tool of Iran, whose government is anti-American.

Just damn....I overlooked the obvious!

37 posted on 04/19/2008 5:18:14 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: ErnBatavia
Iran is playing a ...Fast Game...see the NY Times article:

Iraqi Army Seizes Basra From Militia as Cleric Threatens New Uprising

38 posted on 04/19/2008 6:15:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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Not only is the end game at hand, it looks likely Sadr's movement will be destroyed. And we can see evidence that things are coming to a head as Iraqi forces are surrounding Basra strongholds again today... Sadr's main rival is a cleric named Hakim (sp?) who had a rival militia which was integrated into the Iraqi security forces. His group notes that the only ones bearing arms against Iraq is al-Qaeda and the Mahdi.

39 posted on 04/27/2008 4:55:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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