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Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Obama, it's ALL Marxism
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Posted on 04/19/2008 7:53:00 AM PDT by Eye On The Left

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source:
http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

Obama friend and associate, William/Bill Ayers, from his own red-communist-star-headed website, calls out Hannity and 'others' to debate communism vs capitalism!

Bill Ayers, April 6, 2008:
Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/

Note: Ayers is quite possibly quoting Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party, with the phrase 'both possible and necessary' in regards to a communist overthrow of the US government. See these Yahoo search results for "bob avakian" + "possible and necessary"
--Eye On The Left


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1 posted on 04/19/2008 7:53:01 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Eye On The Left

The fools are being used by communists to achieve their dream of world domination. Blacks are used by communists as a proxy for the proletariat, the downtrodden, who must rise up and start a revolution against Whites, a proxy for the bourgeoisie.


2 posted on 04/19/2008 7:56:09 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Eye On The Left

Far too many Americans probably believe that Marxism has something to do with being associated with a toy manufacturer.


3 posted on 04/19/2008 7:56:49 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eye On The Left

It’s not Marxism. This, like most ideas, is a bad idea. Dump it.


4 posted on 04/19/2008 7:58:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

The sad thing is........if blacks think that they had it bad during slavery days, wait until they are taken over by communism. The poor fools can’t see it and are blinded by greed.


5 posted on 04/19/2008 7:59:40 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Eurale
Far too many Americans probably believe that Marxism has something to do with being associated with a [certain] toy manufacturer.

Or a group of funny brothers! lol.


6 posted on 04/19/2008 8:06:03 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: RightWhale
Don't think Farrakhan is a Marxist.
7 posted on 04/19/2008 8:07:20 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: RightWhale
It’s not Marxism. This, like most ideas, is a bad idea. Dump it.

What's a 'bad idea', Marxism, or my shedding light on these people Obama associates himself with?

8 posted on 04/19/2008 8:09:39 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: dhs12345
Don't think Farrakhan is a Marxist.

Was this a question or an opinion?

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

9 posted on 04/19/2008 8:12:55 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Eye On The Left

It’s not Marxism. Marxism is dead.


10 posted on 04/19/2008 8:13:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale

You can’t truly believe that; Marxism is the new god of the left. Did I say “new”?


11 posted on 04/19/2008 8:16:50 AM PDT by glide625
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To: RightWhale
It’s not Marxism. Marxism is dead.

LOL! (you were joking?)

12 posted on 04/19/2008 8:17:30 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: glide625

Marxism died shortly after the Russian Revolution. It’s gone. Socialism is alive and stronger than ever.


13 posted on 04/19/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Eye On The Left

Having shoveled 18” of Global Warming from the driveway this month I am in no mood to joke about Marxism.


14 posted on 04/19/2008 8:22:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Eye On The Left
Just an observation and my opinion from a couple of his speeches.

I am not an expert.

15 posted on 04/19/2008 8:23:55 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The fools are being used by communists to achieve their dream of world domination. Blacks are used by communists as a proxy for the proletariat, the downtrodden, who must rise up and start a revolution against Whites, a proxy for the bourgeoisie.

With the vast majority of the individuals involved, true, but, still, it is the communist agenda they are helping to advance. Same thing with the so-called "anti-war" movement, another endless sea of 'useful idiots'

16 posted on 04/19/2008 8:32:36 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Eye On The Left

Forgot to mention that Marxism/Atheism don’t jive with a religion like Islam.

Think he is more Muslim than Marxist.

Just an observation. And I am probably wrong.


17 posted on 04/19/2008 8:36:06 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Marxism is very much alive, whether revolutionary Leninism/Maoism or non-violent infiltration via the Fabian/Trotskyite Internationale. The line that “Marxism died with the Russian revolution” is from the anarchist playbook which assumes a “pure communism” composed of collectives and labor committees where the workers own the means of production as the only form government.


18 posted on 04/19/2008 8:39:22 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

An absolutely incredible exchange during the debate on Wednesday night. This is the type of question that so infuriates left wingers. First Obama was reminded that when capital gains taxes are cut revenues to the government go up. Then he was reminded that when capital gains taxes are increased, tax revenues go down. Then he was asked in light of these statistics why he was promoting an increase in capital gains taxes. His answer? He said that he capital gains taxes should go up out of fairness.

There you have it folks. Barack Obama believes that taxes serve purposes other than raising revenue for the legitimate operations of government. He also thinks that taxes should be used to make things more “fair.” In other words .. to take from the people who are making too much money and give to the people who are making too little. Or, as some of Barack’s communist heroes might say, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

Are you ready for a United States where politicians determine how much of the money you earn it would be fair for you to keep, and how much should just be taken and given to someone else?

If you are ... then Obama is your man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc5TVlaxoo8


19 posted on 04/19/2008 8:41:02 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

And the exclusion of religion, if I remember correctly.

Islam is a religion.


20 posted on 04/19/2008 8:42:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Eye On The Left
Ayres..."a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good — must win. "

And Ayres solution to accomplish this perfection on earth, is to bomb everything that society currently values?

Right Bill!?

21 posted on 04/19/2008 8:45:58 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: dhs12345

Yes, Marxism doesn’t jive with Islam, unless, of course, your political uber-strategy requires armies of robot marcher elements because your own cappucino drinking revolutionaries have grown soft from the benefits of capitalism, are anti-gun, are nature-cult pagans who pull the covers over their heads when distressed, and who are basically possessed of passive-aggressive personality disorder, among others. The Western left was engineered to be drug zombie pacifist by their Druid-Trotskyite Fabian Socialist handlers and couldn’t punch their way out of the pages of Rolling Stone.


22 posted on 04/19/2008 8:48:02 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: RightWhale

Marxism is not dead by any means. It’s taught in every high school in the country. Demand for more and more Marxist style socialism is evident everywhere; what do you think is driving the public demand for ‘the government’ to take care of all their needs? everything from minimum wage increases to government day care, “free” health care, fatter welfare checks, all at the expense of ‘evil’ capitalists; big business and overpaid white collar executives.


23 posted on 04/19/2008 9:00:20 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: dhs12345
Forgot to mention that Marxism/Atheism don’t jive with a religion like Islam. Think he is more Muslim than Marxist. Just an observation. And I am probably wrong.

Both the Nation of Islam and Jeremiah Wright's Black Liberation Theology are bogus religions concocted to promote hatred and division between the races in preparation for communist revolution. Both had close ties to the Black Panthers, a Maoist-revolutionary 'domestic terrorist' group.

From The Maoist Internationist Movement
Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives:
Article: "REVOLUTIONARY HEROS"

[excerpt] "On May 1st, May Day, the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

In Search of the Messiah - Fire in The Sky
By Mother Tynnetta Muhammad
Updated Mar 2, 2003

FIRE IN THE SKY-MINISTER FARRAKHAN’S VISION-LIKE EXPERIENCE REVISITED - VOYAGE TO THE MOTHER’S SHIP

"Allah’s commandment will come to pass, so seek not to hasten it. Glory be to Him, and highly exalted be He above what they associate (with Him)! He sends down angels with revelation by His command on whom He pleases of His servants, saying: Give the warning that there is no God but Me, so keep your duty to Me."--Holy Qur’an, Surah 16, verses 1&2.

None should doubt that we are living in perilous times. On the very first day of February, Americans and the world saw television coverage of the Space Shuttle Columbia breaking apart into plumes and fiery streaks of debris appearing like a meteorite shower falling to earth over the State of Texas. By the time it was clear of the magnitude of the disaster, space debris from the shuttle plummeted to the earth with toxic materials spread over a wide range of states, territories that had once belonged to Mexico. The first records of these sightings were marked in their descent over Palestine, Texas, where nearby, President Bush and companions were strategizing on war with Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

There is a nursery rhyme that I remember from my early childhood called ‘Chicken Little’ who came running through the town shouting the alarm that the sky was falling. Indeed this nursery rhyme mimicked here indeed forcibly and tragically has come to pass. Signs to be studied from all the holy Scriptures of the times to be seen in the heavens above and the earth with men’s hearts failing over the enormity of the things that are now taking place. Is it a coincidence that 17 years earlier, The Space Shuttle Challenger along with its’ seven occupants experienced a similar tragedy nearly to the date of the Columbia disaster on January 28, 1986? Count the number 7 in the horrifying events in each case. The number 7 holds the mystifying secret of the science of Divine Scripture, a number of the highest spiritual consciousness that leads us through the transition from the breaking up of the Old World Order into the new elevated plane of Christ Consciousness.

The Space Shuttle Columbia began its career in 1981, 22 years ago, holding the potential for great scientific and technological advancement. Herein is the error of NASA’s Space Program as revealed from the Divine Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad: The aim and purpose of America’s Space Program beginning in the 1960’s with the landing on the Moon in 1969, was to prepare for war against the Great Mother Ship and its companion wheels harnessing an entire New Civilization and an Advanced Technology that is not of this world.

It is the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan who was taken on board this Great Mother Ship to receive a Universal Message from the Honorable Elijah Muhammad in 1985 pertaining to the end time. As incredible as it may seem this communication contains the beginning and the ending of Universal War with the sign of Fire In The Sky which will ultimately be seen with the cutting of a shortage in gravity, in the atoms over our heads that will burst into flames over America, just as we witnessed the frightful explosion of the Space Shuttle. We have the last Warner in our midst before these things come to pass in our Brother and Servant of the Most High God, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan.

"He created the heavens and the earth with truth. Highly exalted be He above what they associate (with Him)! –Holy Qur’an, Surah 16, verse 3.

More to come, God Willing!

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/printer_552.shtml

24 posted on 04/19/2008 9:01:03 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
LOL!

That just about covers it.

So you are saying that what Farrakhan is preaching is all a big fat lie and an effort to gain favor with the black masses?

I'm shocked!

25 posted on 04/19/2008 9:02:36 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Eye On The Left
Obama is Marxism wrapped in chocolate. Let the DemonRATs give their boxes of them on Mother's Day. We will serve it back to them on Election Day.
26 posted on 04/19/2008 9:04:57 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: dhs12345
"And the exclusion of religion, if I remember correctly."

"Islam is a religion."

Islam is much more than a religion. It's a theocracy very much like marxism. It's government, law and order, and religion, that dictates every single aspect of daily life.

27 posted on 04/19/2008 9:07:16 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Eye On The Left

bump


28 posted on 04/19/2008 9:13:27 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Eye On The Left

Sounds like he is more of a power monger than a Marxist. IMO.

And he will do and say anything to gain power.

Of course, don’t be fooled by Marxists (of all types). They all desire power even though they claim that they don’t. After all, someone has to *lead* the masses after the “revolution.”

Why Marxism in its purest form will always be a failure — human nature.


29 posted on 04/19/2008 9:13:54 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Nathan Zachary

Excellent point.

I have always thought that the only reason Marxism excludes religion is so that Marxism can replace religion as the “opiate.”

Marxism is the opiate of the masses.


30 posted on 04/19/2008 9:18:19 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Nathan Zachary
what do you think is driving the public demand for ‘the government’ to take care of all their needs?

That is Socialism.

31 posted on 04/19/2008 9:20:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Eye On The Left


32 posted on 04/19/2008 9:22:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: weezel
An absolutely incredible exchange during the debate on Wednesday night.

I liked the part where Obama countered Hillary's fact that Obama was/is 'friendly' with communist revolutionary / "domestic terrorist", Bill Ayers, by reminding her that Bill Clinton actually pardoned Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evens, two members of the Weather Underground!
(see: http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/nordlinger200411290826.asp)

Next time, I hope he brings up the FALN...
(see: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19760)

and the Black Panthers...
(see: http://www.legaled.com/hillaryatyale.htm).

OPERATION CHAOS ROLLS ON!!!

33 posted on 04/19/2008 9:24:44 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: weezel
An absolutely incredible exchange during the debate on Wednesday night.

I liked the part where Obama countered Hillary's fact that Obama was/is 'friendly' with communist revolutionary / "domestic terrorist", Bill Ayers, by reminding her that Bill Clinton actually pardoned Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evens, two members of the Weather Underground!
(see: http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/nordlinger200411290826.asp)

Next time, I hope he brings up the FALN...
(see: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19760)

and the Black Panthers...
(see: http://www.legaled.com/hillaryatyale.htm).

OPERATION CHAOS ROLLS ON!!!

34 posted on 04/19/2008 9:25:02 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: dhs12345
So you are saying that what Farrakhan is preaching is all a big fat lie and an effort to gain favor with the black masses?

In case you missed it, here it is again:

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

35 posted on 04/19/2008 9:37:37 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: RightWhale

Marxism includes all the ‘socialist’ elements.


36 posted on 04/19/2008 9:44:41 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Oh, okay. Quodlibet.


37 posted on 04/19/2008 9:47:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Marxism includes all the ‘socialist’ elements.

The Road to Socialism:
(from communist party usa)
http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/758

38 posted on 04/19/2008 9:50:41 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: RightWhale
"what do you think is driving the public demand for ‘the government’ to take care of all their needs? That is Socialism.

It is Marxism. There is much more going on than just demand for social programs. Marxism has socialist elements to it, but it also calls for the elimination of religion, demands government run everything from car manufacturing to farming.

Conservatism includes social programs as well. But that doesn't make you a socialist just because society has social safety nets.

39 posted on 04/19/2008 9:59:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Eye On The Left

It all stems from Mrrxist philosophy.


40 posted on 04/19/2008 10:01:26 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Oh, okay.


41 posted on 04/19/2008 10:01:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It all stems from Marxist philosophy.

ditto.

42 posted on 04/19/2008 10:10:19 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: RightWhale
Marxism is the political philosophy and practice derived from the work of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Any political practice or theory that is based on an interpretation of the works of Marx and Engels may be called Marxism.

The constitution of the Communist Parties and ,b>Communist states was grounded in Marxism; the basic difference between Communism in general and Marxism, is that Communism aims at the realization of a "Communist society", while Marxism is a theoretical-practical framework based on the analysis of "the conflicts between the powerful and the subjugated". As a consequence of this, there are many scholars and thinkers who use Marxism as a framework for analysis but do not advocate a communist society.

While there are many theoretical and practical differences among the various forms of Marxism, most forms of Marxism share:

* a belief that capitalism is based on the exploitation of workers by the owners of capital

* a belief that people's consciousness of the conditions of their lives reflects material conditions and relations

* an understanding of class in terms of differing relations of production, and as a particular position within such relations

* an understanding of material conditions and social relations as historically malleable

* a view of history according to which class struggle, the evolving conflict between classes with opposing interests, structures each historical period and drives historical change

The main points of contention among Marxists are the degree to which they are committed to a workers' revolution as the means of achieving human emancipation and enlightenment, and the actual mechanism through which such a revolution might occur and succeed.

Marxism is correctly but not exhaustively described as a variety of Socialism being by far the variety for which there is the most historical experience both as a revolutionary movement and as the basis of actual governments.

Some Marxists, however, such as Trotskyists, argue that no actual state has ever fully realized Marxist principles; other Marxists, such as Autonomists claim Marxist principles cannot be realized in any state construct seen through the 20th Century, and would necessitate a reconceptualization of the notion of state itself.

43 posted on 04/19/2008 10:19:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Yollopoliuhqui to dhs12345:
Marxism is very much alive, whether revolutionary Leninism/Maoism or non-violent infiltration via the Fabian/Trotskyite Internationale. The line that “Marxism died with the Russian revolution” is from the anarchist playbook which assumes a “pure communism” composed of collectives and labor committees where the workers own the means of production as the only form government.

It wasn't 'dhs12345' who said "Marxism died with the Russian revolution", it was 'RightWhale' in reply #13.

Re: "Marxism died shortly after the Russian Revolution. It’s gone."

44 posted on 04/19/2008 10:28:21 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Eye On The Left

That is true.


45 posted on 04/19/2008 10:51:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Nathan Zachary
there are many scholars and thinkers who use Marxism as a framework for analysis

Used to be. It's gone. Been gone even in philosophy for a couple decades.

46 posted on 04/19/2008 10:59:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Nathan Zachary

The writing was on the wall with Goedel’s proofs. Positivism died that day, and Marxism should have then but few understood Goedel so quickly. Took a while to settle in, especially among artists because they aren’t known as being good at math or logic.


47 posted on 04/19/2008 11:03:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
To: Nathan Zachary
Re: "there are many scholars and thinkers who use Marxism as a framework for analysis"
Used to be. It's gone. Been gone even in philosophy for a couple decades.

What are you talking about 'gone'? I just provided you straight-from-the-horse's-azz evidence that Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan's philosophies are rooted in Marxism. The colleges are (still) filled with Marxist academics. Many are wide open about it. The so-called "anti-war" movement is still led by communist organizations.

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source:
http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

Obama friend and associate, William/Bill Ayers, from his own red-communist-star-headed website, calls out Hannity and 'others' to debate communism vs capitalism!

Bill Ayers, April 6, 2008:
Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/

Note: Ayers is quite possibly quoting Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party, with the phrase 'both possible and necessary' in regards to a communist overthrow of the US government. See these Yahoo search results for "bob avakian" + "possible and necessary"
--Eye On The Left

The following telling excerpts are from the New York Times interview William/Bill Ayers did in 2001. Despite the fact that Hannity, Limbaugh, and damn near all of the other popular conservative talking heads (at least until this recent challenge from Ayers), continue referring to the Weather Underground as "domestic terrorists", they were in fact communist revolutionary/domestic terrorists. (it makes a difference you know) Ironically, the Times article was published on Sept 11, 2001:

"During his fugitive years, Mr. Ayers said, he lived in 15 states, taking names of dead babies in cemeteries who were born in the same year as he. He describes the typical safe house: there were usually books by Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh, and Che Guevara's picture in the bedroom; fermented Vietnamese fish sauce in the refrigerator, and live sourdough starter donated by a Native American that was reputed to have passed from hand to hand over a century."

(snip)

"Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as:

'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but 'it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,' he said."

(snip)

"He also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

From Sept 11, 2001, New York Times article/interview with Obama associate and friend, William/Bill Ayers.
Article title: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

Allies in War
By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001:

ON THE MORNING OF THE ATTACKS on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, along with a million other readers of the New York Times including many who would never be able to read the paper again, I opened its pages to be confronted by a color photo showing a middle-aged couple holding hands and affecting a defiant look at the camera. The article was headlined in an irony that could not have been more poignant, "No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives."

The couple pictured were Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, former leaders of the 1960s’ Weather Underground, America’s first terrorist cult. One of their bombing targets, as it happened, was the Pentagon.

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough." In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World [Maoist-communist] revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.

Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."

Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"

(big snip)

Today William Ayers is not merely an author favored by the New York Times, but a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

His Lady Macbeth [Bernardine Dohrn] is not merely a lawyer, but a member of the American Bar Association’s governing elite, as well as the director of Northwestern University’s Children and Family Justice Center. [see: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/aclu/]

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

The Center for Public Intellectuals & The University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC)
April 19th-20th, 2002, Conference

[Participants include: William/Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Sen Barack Obama]

April 19th-20th, 2002
Chicago Illini Union
828 S. Wolcott

This conference is part of the Center's mission of helping to create a more engaged civil society, working towards social change, fostering coalitions between theorists and activists, and combating anti-intellectualism in contemporary culture. It will be both a celebration of ideas and a rigorous examination of the roles and responsibilities that intellectuals play in society.

I. Why Do Ideas Matter? (a keynote panel)

We introduce the “meta” theme of the conference by hearing “success stories” from diverse voices discussing their experiences intervening intellectually.

Timuel Black, Chicago activist; Prof. Emeritus, City Colleges of Chicago
Lonnie Bunch, President, Chicago Historical Society
Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University Law School, Children and Family Justice Center
Gerald Graff, UIC, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences
Richard Rorty, Stanford University, Philosophy

III. Lunch and Public Encounters

Alternative breakout tours led by Chicago activists. Tours of Bronzeville and other communities, and visits to organizations that are working on partnering theorists with activists.

IV. Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Experiences and applications of intellectual work in urgent situations.

William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days
Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights
Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science
Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times
Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator
Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)

The Center for Public Intellectuals
University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC):
http://www.uic.edu/classes/las/las400/conferencealt.htm

"In July 1969, [Bernardine] Dohrn, Eleanor Raskin, Dianne Donghi, Peter Clapp, David Millstone and Diana Oughton,... all representing "Weatherman", as Dohrn's faction was now called, traveled to Cuba and met with representatives of the North Vietnamese and Cuban governments."-wikipedia: article title: "Bernardine_Dohrn"

6 March 1970 – 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan police bombing. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.

6 March 1970 – Another group blows themselves up when their 'bomb factory' located in New York's Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO [Weather Underground] members Theodore Gold, Diana Oughton, and Terry Robbins die in this accident.

The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation." --wikipedia: precise article title: "Weatherman (organization)" --see 'chronology of events'

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle
FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

The 1981 Weather Underground/Black Liberation Army Brinks robbery:

"David J. Gilbert, 37, rented the vehicle that same day in the Bronx. Gilbert was a long time member of the Weather Underground and a fugitive from the state of Colorado where he faced charges of assault and possession of explosives. The passenger in the front seat of the U Haul was Kathy Boudin, on the run from the law since the townhouse explosion in 1970. The couple had dropped off their one-year old child with a babysitter in the morning and was waiting for the return of the red van."

"In the back of the red van were Cecilio 'Chui' Ferguson, 35, Samuel Brown AKA Solomon Bouines, 41, Samuel Smith AKA Mtayari Sundiata, 37, and Donald Weems AKA Kuwasi Balagoon, 35. There were others present, but it has never been proven who, or how many. All the men in back of the van were members of a group they called 'The Family.' Most of them had ties to the Black Panthers or the Black Liberation Army, radical political groups that had many violent confrontations with police during the 1970s."

"At approximately 3:55 p.m., Paige, a 24-year Brink's veteran and his partner, Joe Trombino, 48, exited the doors to the Mall rolling out the moneybags on a hand truck. They walked over to the Brink's truck and began to load up the bags onto the rear deck. Simultaneously, the red van pulled up and the rear doors swung open. One of the suspects, armed with a shotgun, ran to the front of the truck and immediately fired two blasts directly at the bulletproof windshield. The guard in the front seat ducked just in time and was unhurt.

Another suspect, wearing a ski mask, opened up with his M-16 automatic rifle before his feet even hit the pavement, striking Paige in the neck, arm and chest. He was killed instantly.

Joe Trombino fired just one shot before he was hit several times in his upper arm and shoulder. The bullets all but severed his arm off his shoulder. "I've got no arm!" he screamed. But Trombino would survive that day, only to perish years later in another terrorist attack at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001."

Weather Underground/Black Liberation Army Brinks robbery:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/terrorists/brinks/4.html

Why Does Obama's Pastor Matter?
By John Perazzo
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, February 04, 2008

[excerpt]
"In the book titled When Black Men Stand up for God, a collection of sermons and reflections on the Million Man March, Wright identifies Kwanzaa founder Maulana Karenga as an attendee of the rally.[13] In the end notes that follow a transcript of one of Wright's sermons, Karenga is described as 'an internationally acclaimed social activist and scholar in Pan African Studies'; 'the founder and creator of Kwanzaa, the well-known African American holiday'; and 'the director of Pan African Studies and Visiting Lecturer in Ethnic Studies at the University of California, Riverside.'[14]

Unmentioned is the fact that Karenga is a self-identified 'African socialist' whose 'Seven Principles of Blackness,' which are observed during Kwanzaa, are not only the Marxist precepts of parity and proletariat unity, but are also identical to those of the 1970s domestic terrorist group, the Symbionese Liberation Army [re: Patty Hearst]. Nor is it noted that in 1971 Karenga was convicted of torturing two women who were members of United Slaves, a black nationalist cult he had established."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=c19d4d91-618e-40d3-a5d9-c07d7a87a5ba


'Sara Jane Olson and former fugitive Bernardine Dohrn chatted before Dohrn was to lead a panel discussion about conspiracy prosecutions of political activists in 2000. Olson (former Symbionese Liberation Front captor of Patty Hearst) has been sent back to prison for her role in a murder committed during a bank robbery, but Dorhn and Ayers never had to serve a day in prison for their deeds in the Weather Underground, thanks to bleeding heart judges who threw the case out of court on a technicality.'

48 posted on 04/19/2008 11:29:06 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Eye On The Left

That’s right. Their horse is dead, but they can continue to beat it.


49 posted on 04/19/2008 11:37:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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50 posted on 04/19/2008 11:46:29 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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