Posted on 04/20/2008 10:47:33 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AGAINST ISLAM
A Proposed Constitutional Amendment
(Note the need for this Amendment at the end)
Background and justification to Amendment 28 (self-defense/survival measure)
Whereas; Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;
Whereas; the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice one’s religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a 'religious test' for participation in the body politic;
Whereas; Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supercedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;
Whereas; Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;
Whereas; Saudi Arabia , the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even 'moderate' Muslims states such as Turkey and Malaysia actively suppress other religions;
Whereas; Islam includes as its basic tenant the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (holy war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;
Whereas; on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;
Whereas; representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;
Whereas; there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;
Therefore: Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:
Article I
The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion. The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.
Article II
As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress.
No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as proscribed by Congress.
Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death. Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States .
Article IV
Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.
THE REASON THE AMENDMENT IS NEEDED
I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz.
We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims.
In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.
And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.
They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.
We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs. What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.
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Not just no, but hell no. You can’t sacrifice liberty to preserve America. It’s an oxymoron. One cannot exist without the other. Should this boneheaded Amendment pass, we’d cease being American at that very moment.
Religion is about man’s relationship with God.
Politics deals with man’s relationship to his fellow man.
Islam is not a religion. It is a political system where the mullahs and ayatollahs and muftis and whatever control the masses.
I agree.. If the Government bans one religion, what makes you think that the Government is just going to stop at Islam?? Nope... Once you give the Government more power, they are not going to give up that power..
I could not agree more. This one passage:
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress.
Is ridiculous.
Evidently the idiots have now taken over FreeRepublic...
Guys like this don’t know what they’re really asking. They’ve no clue what happens to societies where words and ideas are criminalized. They scare me even more than the Muslims do.
Nah, the problem is that a bunch of good FReepers are still licking their wounds over failed primaries, so the inmates are running the asylum.
I know. It sounds like it should be coming from the Reichstag doesn’t it?
Our constitution was never written with Islam in mind. It was written by Christians with a Christian society in mind and protection of it against those who would destroy it, which would include Islam.
Idiot? Moi?
I just posted this thread to see some FR debate and some pros and cons about this proposed amendment.
I hope that you are not being too liberal in throwing around the label idiot...
The problem isn’t islam, it’s liberalism. It’s similar to AIDS. People don’t actually die of AIDS, they die of other diseases after AIDS has ravaged their immune systems. It’s the same way with islam. America or Europe would never be at risk of succumbing to a bunch of third world cavemen if our cultural immune system hadn’t been ravaged by liberalism.
You are aware that calls for violence are bad mojo here? No?
I am sure Jonh McCain will make this the first plank of the 2008 GOP Platform!
Yes BURN THEM DOWN! Why not? That is what the Gov. did at Waco!
Ok pal, what do we do for those practice islam here??? Kick them out of the country including those who was born here???
See that’s the rub. Liberty by necessity includes the freedom to speak against liberty.
If they are found to be terrorist, yes! Club Gitmo!
To me they are different from the Taliban...
Christianity is already in the crosshairs of fedgov types who would love to kill it.
If we openly give them the power to restrict one system of belief, even one as repugnant and vile as mohammedanism, they will take that inch and run a marathon with it. No religion will be safe from the sweeping gaze and power of the federal government once they get the lumbering beast into motion.
So NO, fight the mohammedans with ferocity and fire if needs be, but do it on the field of battle, not in the arcane and morally bankrupt field of government fiat because we will all suffer.
Once the iron fist starts swinging, it is indiscriminating and relentless.
Even if they did no harm??? So the people who play professional football who are muslim should be sent to Gitmo???
Hell, I’m for killing all the terrorists. That’s a different story. I’m for killing all the Christians who turn out to be terrorists too. Which has happened btw with a few Irish folks in days past.
I’m all for put an end to mass murderers. That’s not quit the same thing as calling to burn the practitioners of a religion out of their homes and churches though is it?
It is called slippery slope...
Hate to see the need.
But I’d vote for it.
Of course, the globalists will not allow it to pass.
I know living in a free society is so overrated.
I can’t tell if you’re trying to pick a fight or get banned. I can’t take your seriously, that’s for sure. You have to be smarter than to accuse a Freeper of cheering when the towers fell.
Well calling me crazy or to “take a pill” is not nice either!!!
Because Christianity is protected in our constitution. Further, there is no separation of church and state written anywhere in the constitution. The constitution simply states that the government shall not interfere with the church, make no law in rspect of the church.
separation of church and state is actually a connon law of the church, where the government runs the nations business, while the church runs it's business and is responsible for the morality of society.
Restricting the teaching of the bible in schools or public preaching of the bible is actually a violation of our constitution.
While this Amendment directly addresses islam, I believe we do need an Amendment or law that clearly states what is considered a valid religion in general. We need one that also addresses the Farrakans and the Wrights of this nation. They are using their so called religions as tax shelters and this has to stop.
I wonder if this is being proposed by the same people who sent the petition against Mitt Romney to John McCain.
To be honest, I’m not a fan of islam, however, it is dangerous to give the Federal Government more power to ban a religion.
Just who is picking the fight here?
ISLAM is not a religion so what is your problem with the constitutional amendment?You let the muzzies take over and you will see a ban on religion.Ours.
IT PROTECTS ALL RELIGIONS IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
Rule #1 is: Don't turn into your enemy while trying to destroy him.
“Not just no, but hell no. You can’t sacrifice liberty to preserve America. It’s an oxymoron. One cannot exist without the other. Should this boneheaded Amendment pass, we’d cease being American at that very moment.”
Short, but succinct, rebuttal:
“The Constitution is not a suicide pact”
(I don’t recall the name of the U.S. Supreme Court Justice who wrote this, but one in fact did).
The proposed amendment is too long and too wordy to be worth consideration. It would never pass.
I would directly re-write the First Amendment, inserting language that the followers of Muhammed were not recognized as deserving of its protections.
Yes, I WOULD do that. And I would have NO fear for the future of the country.
So long as the existing First Amendment provides cover for Islam to destroy us from within, I DO fear for the future of this country.
I realize your opinion may be different from mine.
- John
I don't support it as an Amendment, but I do recognize that Islam is inconsistent with democracy.
And a serious threat to America and the rest of the free world, much as Nazism was.
Fortunately, You do not get a vote as to what does or does not become a Constitutional Amendment.
‘”Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinion, they may with practices.”’
VIKTOR FRANKEL:
THERE IS NO FREEDOM WITHOUT RESPNSIBILITY.
Freedom can be a tricky principle, truth, right, issue.
I’d normally prefer to err on the side of the benefit of the doubt and grace for all comers.
However, Islam has shown it’s true teeth and satanic violent destructiveness to all I hold dear.
I no longer see any sanity in giving them any quarter whatsoever.
Our Constitution was not designed to insure our destruction.
Ignoring Islam could easily insure our destruction.
Treating Islam with kid gloves would likely easily insure our destruction if God didn’t have other plans already in place.
In any case, it’s a moot issue. The Globalists will not allow Islam to be hindered as they use it to help destroy all other religions only to then destroy it in favor of the global religion of worshipping the coming world ruler—satan incarnate.
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