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Barack Obama's hopes fade in blue-collar ghost towns
The London Telegraph ^ | April 21, 2008 | Alex Spillius in Clairton, Pennsylvania

Posted on 04/20/2008 6:09:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Barack Obama's prospects of sealing the Democratic Party's nomination in Pennsylvania tomorrow have apparently evaporated in the state's ghost towns.

In Clairton, a once-thriving community, where The Deer Hunter was filmed in the mid-1970s, the population has shrunk by two thirds in the past 30 years.

Jobs at the huge steel mill beside the Monongahela River have steadily disappeared. Mr Obama and rival Senator Hillary Clinton are pursuing blue collar votes in places like Clairton that could decide the primary and the most closely fought nomination battle in living memory.

If the young Illinois senator wants to expand his support significantly beyond blacks, students and the middle-classes, he needs to win over the likes of Clyde Gouker.

The 48-year-old mechanic owns one of the few businesses in Clairton that is not boarded up or shut down.

The task has become more difficult since Mr Obama made his infamous comments about bitter small town residents in Pennsylvania clinging to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them to explain their frustrations.

Mr Gouker, who shot his first animal, a grey squirrel, at the age of 12, was unimpressed.

"I hunt because I enjoy being out and alone," he said. "There are even times when I don't shoot game which I see. Non-hunters don't understand that too well."

He added that Mr Obama was talking "BS" and was up to his eyebrows in it. But in consolation to the senator, Mr Gouker - who calls himself a Democrat but voted for President George W Bush - thought Mrs Clinton was full of "BS" too. This was not least because of her claims to have dodged sniper fire on a 1996 trip to Bosnia.

At the Boston Diner, Tina Jones was also unimpressed by Mrs Clinton's efforts to prove her small town savvy by drinking shots of whiskey and cups of beer on the campaign trail. Mrs Jones, who has waited tables for 15 years, said: "That was pretty stupid. Are you trying to get drinkers to vote for you?"

As a churchgoer, she found Mr Obama's remarks about religion particularly off-putting.

"You need God in your life. You are brought into religion young and it isn't anything to do with being scared," she said.

But what bothers residents more is that so much attention has been paid to a war of words rather than how to restore their community.

The town's Democrat chief executive, Ralph Imbrogno, said: "The 'bitter' thing will hurt Obama - although it didn't bother me. I want to know how their programmes are going to better Americans' lives."

Both candidates have indulged in personal attacks as their marathon race draws to its close.

With Mr Obama holding a small but seemingly impregnable lead among elected delegates, Mrs Clinton has played "Bittergate" for all it is worth to seek a large victory.

Her only hope of winning the nomination is to persuade the 795 unelected super-delegates with a free vote at the party's nominating convention that she can win "swing states" such as Pennsylvania in November's presidential election.

Polls suggest that Mr Obama's rapid advance over the past few weeks has halted five points behind Mrs Clinton. Some in his own campaign suspect the "Bittergate" controversy is to blame.

If Mrs Clinton wins Pennsylvania with a double digit margin, her campaign will receive a significant boost. But a narrow victory would leave Mr Obama as a deadly rival.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; bitter; democratparty; democrats; election; elections; elitists; obama; pa2008; smalltown
Operation Chaos + Bittergate + Pastorgate + Snipergate + Ayersgate = President John McCain.
1 posted on 04/20/2008 6:09:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Barack Obama's hopes fade in blue-collar ghost towns

typically

2 posted on 04/20/2008 6:10:58 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The town's Democrat chief executive, Ralph Imbrogno, said: "The 'bitter' thing will hurt Obama - although it didn't bother me. I want to know how their programmes are going to better Americans' lives."

No one wants to know "how their programs are going to allow Americans to better their own lives."

4 posted on 04/20/2008 6:15:55 PM PDT by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Operation Chaos + Bittergate + Pastorgate + Snipergate + Ayersgate = President John McCain.

Agreed.

Now, if McCain could agree to a Contract With America 2008, with generally conservative principles, we could clean house (and Senate) of the stench of corrupt democrats.

5 posted on 04/20/2008 6:18:11 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


6 posted on 04/20/2008 6:19:05 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One cant happen to wonder where we would be at now if the Democrats had stuck to the traditional primary calendar of years past. Well done Howard Dean!


7 posted on 04/20/2008 6:20:44 PM PDT by OCC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s Pastor Celebrates 9/11 (explicit)
Only 5 Days After 3,000 Americans Killed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzhl-endvco

Jeremiah Wright Says America Deserved 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9HUdF9OZa8

Obama: Bitter Americans Cling to Guns and Religion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJAl8a3d9Q

Obama’s Racially-Divisive Pastor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA

Obama Disrespecting U.S. Flag and Anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

The Audacity of Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjnT4eJJvs

The Audacity of Barack Obama 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeC8BE-2T_k

Is Obama Wright? - Pastor Wright & Senator Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Obama’s Pastor - 9/11 Fault of Israel Association

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI431s1r6s

Obama - Cult of Personality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7lUGn7HWk

Name Obama’s Accomplishments if you can #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o

Name Obama’s Accomplishments if you can #2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

Barack Obama: There Will Be Bamboozling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

The Two Things Senator Obama Accomplished

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/27/obamas-empty-change-message/

The Jeremiah Wright Lifetime Achievement Award

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prhnc2fxAzg

Gaza Strip Palestinians Campaigning for Obama

http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

Barack Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters ‘Punished’ With a Baby

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg


8 posted on 04/20/2008 6:21:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Refresh my mind — What’s Snipergate?


9 posted on 04/20/2008 6:25:57 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (If Chris Plante Is A "Racist", Then I Must Be A Playboy Centerfold Model!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

I AM THE ONE I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR.

10 posted on 04/20/2008 6:27:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: FormerACLUmember

Oh, I got it — the Bosnia/Hillary thing....


11 posted on 04/20/2008 6:28:15 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (If Chris Plante Is A "Racist", Then I Must Be A Playboy Centerfold Model!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope no police-persons or firefighters or innocent bystanders are hurt during this summers DEMOCRAT convention, this is going to be fun to watch!!
12 posted on 04/20/2008 6:29:34 PM PDT by ExSafecracker (Press 1 for english. . .2 for jibberish.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In Clairton, a once-thriving community, where The Deer Hunter was filmed in the mid-1970s......

Apparently, Obama is not aware that "this is this" in that part of the country.

13 posted on 04/20/2008 6:32:06 PM PDT by edpc (Republican Attack Machine Field Service Technician)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“The town's Democrat chief executive, Ralph Imbrogno, said: “The ‘bitter’ thing will hurt Obama - although it didn't bother me. I want to know how their programmes are going to better Americans’ lives.”

If you are waiting on the government for that Ralphie, you have a long wait. These people are pathetic. Keep voting for Democrats.

14 posted on 04/20/2008 6:32:35 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
What’s Snipergate?

It's Hillary's tale about ducking sniper bullets in Bosnia :-p

good evening by the way Silvie

15 posted on 04/20/2008 6:42:14 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: outofstyle
I want to know how their programmes are going to better Americans’ lives.”

No,no, their programs are going to embitter Americans.

16 posted on 04/20/2008 6:43:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: headstamp 2
If you are waiting on the government for that Ralphie, you have a long wait. These people are pathetic. Keep voting for Democrats.

You're just bitter............. How do you type when you've got a gun in one hand and a bible in the other. /s :-p

17 posted on 04/20/2008 6:45:04 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The town's Democrat chief executive, Ralph Imbrogno, said: "The 'bitter' thing will hurt Obama - although it didn't bother me. I want to know how their programmes are going to better Americans' lives."

Actually, there is a little savvy underneath this...the 'true party faithful' got their marching orders from Harrisburg...from Rendell and then down the line. Rendell 'delivers' the much needed PA for Hillary...a President Hillary takes care of PA. Oh, and Fast Eddie gets a really sweet appointment or judgeship. The dead will early and often on Tuesday...

18 posted on 04/20/2008 6:45:11 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: edpc
Those little copper/brass things go well with:

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19 posted on 04/20/2008 6:47:10 PM PDT by geo40xyz (McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?)
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To: headstamp 2
If you are waiting on the government for that Ralphie, you have a long wait.

You have to really wonder about these people. Things have been going in the crapper for 30 years there without the government fixing it. And still they think that this time will be different.

Same mentality as a person with a spouse that has been cheating on them for 30 years. One has to experience a "willing suspension of disbelief" to entertain the notion that the government is going to [be able] fix their problems now.

20 posted on 04/20/2008 6:52:02 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of the people spoken to for this article will likely vote for McCain in November. McCain will need voters like this to offset the republican base who has a luke warm(at best) support for him.


21 posted on 04/20/2008 6:53:51 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Just saw Eddie R on Sean Hannity’s America telling young people that while Obama is saying he isn't taking money from big money lobbyist, the truth is that his “bundlers” are.

If this becomes the next big hammer for Hillery his “Bundlers” are going to become “Bunglers”.

IMHO, I think these Bundlers should be forced to disclose their donors. I know I was hit up by a prominent business man for a donation via email for Obama some months ago. I didn't reply, but I did check out the Bundlers website and he's raised over $200,000!

22 posted on 04/20/2008 6:56:35 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not that there's anything wrong with that...


23 posted on 04/20/2008 6:57:33 PM PDT by Lady Jag ( I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Lady Jag
Kick that habit:-()

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24 posted on 04/20/2008 7:24:26 PM PDT by geo40xyz (McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?)
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To: ExSafecracker

I read on FR about a month ago that all emergency workers were on call and not allowed any leave during convention time. This applied out 50 or so miles. Wish I could find that reference.


25 posted on 04/20/2008 7:28:51 PM PDT by colinhester
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I want to know how their programmes are going to better Americans' lives.

Get a job, you stupid democrat.

26 posted on 04/20/2008 7:30:08 PM PDT by rabidralph (Hillary is the MSM's Bimbo Eruption.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

27 posted on 04/20/2008 7:41:53 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: not2worry

n2w...if you can, could you provide a link to the bundlers’ list? Hubby just mentioned it (listening to SH) and I am curious which PA movers/shakers may be there...:)PaMom


28 posted on 04/20/2008 7:44:11 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: Tribune7

Idiot report. USSteel just made a 1 Billion Dollar commitment to a new steel mill in Clairton. Bad reporting. HoHum.


29 posted on 04/20/2008 7:44:35 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

The best site I found to see Obama’s Bundlers is:

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/candidate.cfm?CandidateID=C0009


30 posted on 04/20/2008 7:57:21 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Meet Barack Hussein Obama
31 posted on 04/20/2008 8:20:05 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: F15Eagle
See if you like this video...

Meet Barack Hussein Obama

32 posted on 04/20/2008 8:20:38 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: KoRn
McCain will need voters like this to offset the republican base who has a luke warm(at best) support for him.

McCain was my second-to-last Republican choice (Ron Paul was my last choice), but I'll vote for him because the alternatives - Hitlery or Obamamamama - are just a nightmare. They'll tax us to death and willingly lose the war on terror. No thanks; I'll vote for McCain.

33 posted on 04/20/2008 8:21:29 PM PDT by hsalaw
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34 posted on 04/20/2008 8:36:44 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: not2worry
Thank you!!! Briefly read it...I guess most political operatives here in PA are trully too bitter...because there are only a couple on the list.

A couple quick things I noted...the Pepsico guy gave twice as much as the Coca-Cola lady (I'm guessing Michelle O will not be serving up much Coke Zero)...and...(the one really surprised me) Oprah (she who has more money than G-d does) only bundles 50k? What up with that? Katezenberg (Dreamworks) gave four times that.

35 posted on 04/20/2008 8:45:34 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Refresh my mind — What’s Snipergate?

Where are you that you can avoid "Snipergate"? Because we are moving there. Tomorrow... ; )

Here's some video, but there are additional in the sidebar.

Hillary in Tuzla: Hillary WASN'T LYING! Bosnia gunfire footage discovered...

Hillary in Tuzla: The Tale of Bosnian Sniper Fire

Hillary in Tuzla: Storm Over Tuzla

36 posted on 04/21/2008 2:52:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Fox_Mulder77; Caipirabob

Thank you! I had a memory lapse for a few seconds...


37 posted on 04/21/2008 3:26:37 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (If Chris Plante Is A "Racist", Then I Must Be A Playboy Centerfold Model!)
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To: geo40xyz

bump for later


38 posted on 04/21/2008 3:45:21 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.wordpress.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pa should be the first to vote in the primaries instead of Iowa. If this happened, instead of having ethanol pushed down our throats, Bushmaster would be allowed to legally manufacture fully auto rifles by now...


39 posted on 04/21/2008 4:58:33 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
My guess would be that if you didn't want to be revealed as a Bundler you could use an empty suit, ie. “housewife”, “retired”, “not noted”(so to speak) to raise do your bundling.

I don't know how they report such things as “folks” who lead their private jets for transportation, provide fund raisers like the SF Gettys, give free air time or magazine print (ala Oprah) to the candidates.

I looked at the list as well and PA didn't have a lot of Bundlers. Tomorrow is going to be very interesting.

40 posted on 04/21/2008 5:20:30 AM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: hsalaw

He will just tax us to death.


41 posted on 04/21/2008 6:00:19 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: not2worry

Last nite Hillary called. Twice. Franco Harris and some lady named Star (not Jones) called for Obama. My husband got ‘polled;’ our daughter said on Saturday (we were out) but our state Rep. went door to door in our neighborhood (I was sorry to have missed that opportunity). I saw Hillary walking in the Pgh St. Patrick’s Day Parade; and saw the Obama Bus (when he was travelling to Hempfield HS for his ‘town meeting).’ Its surreal. It will be oddly quiet come Wednesday morning.


42 posted on 04/21/2008 7:25:17 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: geo40xyz

It's not a habit, it's a Constitutional Right


43 posted on 04/21/2008 8:28:37 AM PDT by Lady Jag ( I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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