Posted on 04/22/2008 11:01:38 PM PDT by icwhatudo
Just when the flag pin issue was dieing down, it seems Barak Obama has some explaining to do about a revised presidential seal on his website that shows an American flag being pierced by an arrow.
First picked up by by Freeper "prayforpeaceofJerusalem", the logo also shows what appears to be an American Eagle in retreat and a rising moon.
"I don’t know how to begin a thread, yet...and am not confident enough to do so anyway, but please, some of you, bring attention to he fact that Obama’s logo, as seen on his web site, http://www.barackobama.com/images/bg.jpg shows an arrow or spear through the stars and stripes of the USA; the flag is depicted torn; an eagle is turned away from and is departing from over the flag symbol; a moon is rising over the USA stripes in a dark night; and above the frame, top right, the curve of the wings of an eagle are depicted from the rear, as it is seen lifting, to fly away."
An enhanced version of Obama's logo:
The original presidential seal with Eagle holding the arrows:
1. It’s not a flag.
2. It’s a shield and banner.
3. The banner is draped and twisted OVER the arrow.
Obama’s “Eagle” looks more like a vulture to me.
It looks like the eagle is laying an egg
WTF???
Now, I’ve seen everything!
Someone better save that image before they remove it.
I could be wrong, but I think the spear is really the flag’s staff.
But it’s no secret that he won’t wear the US flag pin; won’t cover his heart during the National Anthem; and already thinks the God-fearing are “bitter.”
That’s plenty to be suspect about!
Actually, I think it’s kind of cool.
...in an evil, ‘1984’ kind of way.
Retreating eagle, pierced flag, over a setting sun or rising moon-—just perfect for our new BHO government.
Yeah, I don't necessarily think there is a whole lot to this story. Maybe the real kernel of truth is that we have a presidential nominee who's character automatically puts such issues under close scrutiny.
Way to go Team Obama!!
Cost of Flag Lapel Pin: $2.19
Cost of 30 Second Media Buy on a Major Network: $355,000
Cost of Foundering and Incompetent Candidacy: PRICELESS!
You're dead-on right, and that's scary.
Where in the writings of the Founding Fathers is any indication that they thought the President of the United States should be seen as a Messiah?
Anybody want to ask George Washington, arguably the most humble of American Presidents, his opinion on that?
LOL :)
What do you think that moon-thing is?
B.Hussein Obama sure is desperate to use the Presidential Seal but the one he has come up with is imo an insult to the Original seal. Maybe one of his terrorist supporting friends designed this logo of his.
At worst, there is some malicious meaning. At best, it’s just weird and weak looking. It kind of reminds me of some of the kooky stuff Dennis Kucinich had (and might still have) on his website, cartoony type stuff.
This is nothing big, but anyone who buys that Obama truly loves America is ill.
teapot tempest.
Poor Katie Couric loses North Carolina debate, but she feels OK
Los Angeles Times
Posted on 04/21/2008 9:28:24 PM PDT by indcons
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2005069/posts
yeah, this is bizarre and scary and should be publicized out there. The “shield” or whatever below the “eagle” looks like the Dome of the Rock over waves of sand. Just really ominous. What say you?
As for that white thing in the center, remember: In the 7th-century Arab pantheon, Allah was the Moon God.
You’re completely right. It is an arrow piercing the American flag, maybe the eagle too, and upon the whole a full moon is depicted rising. This is not a very patriotic design.
Weak is right. After using a few Photoshop filters to sharpen the lines, I concluded that it's not a flag, and the artist had little knowledge of eagle anatomy and no clear vision of what he was trying to say.
I've pulled up the image, which need no "enhancing," and I simply don't see it, and suspect this whole non-story is either 1. hysteria or 2. a plant, hoping for an over-reaction by a fake freeper who merely THINKS we who are freepers are incapable of critical thinking.
Leave this one alone. There's no need in stretching the truth that is already so obvious, and not even hidden, about this child-man's associations. This would make us a laughing stock.
Look, the man just wants to be left alone to eat his pancakes, Why can’t he just eat his pancakes?
Nonsense.
Anybody who sees some sort of evil symbolism in that image needs to go take a chill pill.
It’s nothing more than a rather poorly drawn emblem that looks a bit like someone was trying for a retro/propaganda look.
As for the thing in the middle I’d say it’s supposed to be the sunrise over crop fields. They left the rays off the sun because that probably gave it a Japanese flag look. I’d guess they were going for the worker’s paradise look/feel.
Obama has enough real issues, no one needs to go manufacturing silly stuff like this.
We were going to use the emblem of the Presidency on our uniforms.
That was until we got a visit from the FBI telling us it was illegal.
Like I said that was quite a few years ago.
Now that is priceless.
Hey better to spend all those millions on attacking each other than going after McCain.
Dean must be going nuts.
His name should be running down the endorsement.
I don’t recall ever seeing the eagle in retreat in any American context.
Why don’t people just open their eyes? Or do they see what they want to see?
“It looks like the eagle is laying an egg.”
Or taking a dump.
Eagle also facing East... It’s just a bad design. The eagle should be facing forward.
Or it’s facing NE. I hate the Obama logo, and hate this. Just crappy, unPresidential.
Islam is a Moon Cult, So the Rising Moon represents Islam.
Obama supports Islam’s Jihad against America.
Obama likes moon pies, so the moon represents pies.
Same logic, right?
It’s a spear and shield in front of the flag and a retreating eagle on top. It has the olive branches and to the right is the word “SI” (third star up). Opposite “SI” are some chili peppers. There are 13 stars, 3 of them not filled in. It kind of looks like in the background is Canada. Then on top are the words E Pluribus Unim.
You people really need to get a life.
That is a pretty ugly eagle.
Maybe his wife drew it.
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You got that right.
I was looking at politico's county by county breakdown and there were a couple counties in western Pennsylvania that went for Hilary to the tune of 75% and 79%. That is a serious whoopin' that she laid on Obama!
Pennsylvania would appear to really be “in play” if Barry wins and, of course if Hilary wins, you may have all those disenfranchised individuals in Philly so hacked off that they won't show up in November.
Don't know how much of this is a right wing conspiracy or Operation CHAOS, but it has to be a good thing to have these 2 selfish narcissists spending all of the donor dollars before we get to the general.
I'm liking it! I hope that it goes ALL the way to August!
And it is turned away from us, possibly concealing something under its wing.
Not too subtle.
Leni
Obama's been having some flag and symbolism issues
so I think the freeper who found this was justified in his concern. Some artist put a lot of thought into each and every aspect of that Obama logo and I think its fair to ask what was meant by the symbols used.
Symbols have meaning, unless of course those rainbow Hillary signs last night were simply meant to be "colorful"-LOL.
(p.s.-Instead of helping a fellow freeper, maybe I could have reposted info on the spaghetti monster but someone "cough cough" beat me to it. :P
Thanks.
I didn’t find this, though, a woman on another board brought it to my attention yesterday. Her husband copied and enlarged the image found many odd symbols [he changed the background color on his computer and discovered hidden things] and we have no idea what they do symbolize -but they do have meaning to them who did it.
The image flashes on every Obama webpage for a subliminal moment, and someone has captured it, put it out, and the investigation has begun.
Though the flag obscured behind the shield does give an impression to be draped over a staff, as seen at the top right side of the shield, when the bottom left is enlarged and enhanced, it is coming through a hole in the flag.
That the image is a mockery of and/or message of destruction of the power of the USA is not imagination.
In typical “Nation of Islam” style, there are symbols of such a desire -and intent- all over this image.
Compare it to the US Presidential Seal -someone else will have to paste it, again, on this thread to do the comparison;
The US Presidential Seal eagle [http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/eeobtour/images/seal-presidential-color.html] is holding olive tree branches in the right hand, and arrows in the left, symbolising peace through strength. The US Seal eagle is viligent, on guard, and has the shield as a symbol of the US flag covering it, as a breastplate.
But the Obama Hussein image has the eagle turned tail and fleeing, leaving the breastplate behind, with the olive leaf branches dropped and in disarray, and an arrow through the flag behind the shield pierces a hole in the flag, lower right.
The arrow piercing the flag is symbolic of the arrows the US Presidential Seal eagle is seen holding, but, it could be a subliminal message that a larger one [a spear] has destroyed all the arrows of the US eagle, as they are seen on the US Presidential Seal.
Even if they morphosed the eagle into a vulture, as some are saying, then that is only a more sinister message of the beliefs of the man “who would be president” and also lines right up with the Jeremiah Wright condemnation, and the Nation of Islam beliefs.
Behind the shield and pierced flag of the Obama image is a cloud mocking the glory clouds of the US Presidential Seal stars [I looked up the meaning of the symbols on the US P.Seal], and it is easy to imagine that it is a mushroom cloud rising....
The designer of the Obama logo says the enhanced O is for Obama and is a sun rising over the flag, seen on the horizon. But a sun rising emits light rays and lightens the sky around it, and this is not a sun. A moon rising on the horizon, seen in a dark sky, is the subliminal message, and the fact that the O is rising over the “prone” flag is another sinister message: what’s the flag doing prone? why was it prone at night, if indeed Obama’s designer meant to convey that message?
No matter how they spin it, a picture is worth a thousand words.
The eagle has lost her defense arrows/strength, in Obama’s image, and has truned tail and is departing, having dropped the olive tree branches, which are seen in disarray in Obama’s image.
Over the frame of the image, top right, is a shadow outline of the rear view of curve of the birds’ wings, as they are lifting to depart.
This Obama image is like the arrogancy and kookiness and secret message kind of thing that the Nation of Islam puts forth, and is in perfect agreement in it’s deceit and subliminal messaging of a man who would mention an opponents’ name, and then pause; give the finger to her in a subliminal message which is understood by the cheering crowds; and proceed with the “not me”, “I didn’t do it” attitude.
The chickens are coming home to roost, is what I think....and Obama is not going to be the president of the USA -and neither is he going to be the president of a replacement nation for the USA, for we will not be destroyed by this man’s radical left wing America hating crowd, who have marched on with nothing but deception and arrogance.
The “E Pluribus Unum” of the US Presidential Seal is mocked, on Obama’s image and appears as “Z Pluribus Unum”. That was proved by someone enlarging and enhancing it and posting it. -Anyone can do that for themselves and see “Z Pluribus Unum” above the departing bird, but what message that is giving the enlightened ones I have no idea!
***Weak is right. After using a few Photoshop filters to sharpen the lines, I concluded that it’s not a flag, and the artist had little knowledge of eagle anatomy and no clear vision of what he was trying to say. ***
Thanks for that information, but I don’t think the artist had little knowledge of eagle anatomy. It looks to me as though he deliberately drew it so that the eagle is morphing into a dove, in keeping with O. Hussein Barack’s politics.
***The drugged-out “artist” who created this nightmarish logo did his best to make the bird look like a cross between the American Eagle and the Peace Dove.***
Same thing I said farther down on the list, only I said the eagle is MORPHING into a dove. That part which looks like a wing (in the center) is actually a dove. Also, the wing on the left doesn’t come near to an eagle wing in appearance.
Thank you for all that information.
I should have pinged all of you to this reply of mine. I am sorry for repeating it but the matter is like a fire burning inside, and I am offended -and righteously indignant- by the subliminal image flashed briefly on Obama’s wbesite pages, as a secret message to all the “enlightened” Nation of Islamviewers and to all those sympathetic to their radical doctrine.
The message I paste again [with a couple sp corrections], for you, and is for your consideration on the matter. Research it, please, as others have, and see for yourselves the secret messages hidden in the image, which is only flashed on the website subliminally, for the “brotherhood of the enlightened” to gloat over.
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“Thanks.
I didn’t find this, though, a woman on another board brought it to my attention yesterday. Her husband copied and enlarged the image and found many odd symbols hidden in it. He changed the background color on his computer and discovered them. We have no idea what they do symbolize -but they do have meaning to the ones who did it. There seem to be several six’s hidden, and six is very relevant to Islam, it seems. Go check it out for yourselves and see.
The image flashes on every Obama webpage for a subliminal moment, and someone has captured it, put it out, and the investigation has begun.
Though the flag obscured behind the shield does give an impression to be draped over a staff, as seen at the top right side of the shield, when the bottom left is enlarged and enhanced, it is coming through a hole in the flag.
That the image is a mockery of and/or message of destruction of the power of the USA is not imagination.
In typical “Nation of Islam” style, there are symbols of such a desire -and intent- all over this image.
Compare it to the US Presidential Seal -someone else will have to paste it, again, on this thread to do the comparison; -I see it is pasted above.
The US Presidential Seal eagle [http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/eeobtour/images/seal-presidential-color.html] is holding olive tree branches in the right hand, and arrows in the left, symbolizing peace through strength. The US Seal eagle is vigilent, on guard, and has the shield as a symbol of the US flag covering it, as a breastplate.
But the Obama Hussein image has the eagle turned tail and fleeing, leaving the breastplate behind, with the olive leaf branches dropped and in disarray, and an arrow through the flag behind the shield pierces a hole in the flag, lower right.
The arrow piercing the flag is symbolic of the arrows the US Presidential Seal eagle is seen holding, but, it could be a subliminal message that a larger one [a spear] has destroyed all the arrows of the US eagle, as they are seen on the US Presidential Seal.
Even if they morphosed the eagle into a vulture, as some are saying, then that is only a more sinister message of the beliefs of the man “who would be president” and also lines right up with the Jeremiah Wright condemnation, and the Nation of Islam beliefs.
Behind the shield and pierced flag of the Obama image is a cloud mocking the glory clouds of the US Presidential Seal stars [I looked up the meaning of the symbols on the US P. Seal], and it is easy to imagine that it is a mushroom cloud rising....
The designer of the Obama logo says the enhanced O is for Obama and is a sun rising over the flag, seen on the horizon. But a sun rising emits light rays and lightens the sky around it, and this is not a sun. A moon rising on the horizon, seen in a dark sky, is the subliminal message, and the fact that the O is rising over the “prone” flag is another sinister message: what’s the flag doing prone? why was it prone at night, if indeed Obama’s designer meant to convey that message?
No matter how they spin it, a picture is worth a thousand words.
The eagle has lost her defense arrows/strength, in Obama’s image, and has truned tail and is departing, having dropped the olive tree branches, which are seen in disarray in Obama’s image.
Over the frame of the image, top right, is a shadow outline of the rear view of curve of the birds’ wings, as they are lifting to depart.
This Obama image is like the arrogancy and kookiness and secret message kind of thing that the Nation of Islam puts forth, and is in perfect agreement in it’s deceit and subliminal messaging of a man who would mention an opponents’ name, and then pause; give the finger to her in a subliminal message which is understood by the cheering crowds; and proceed with the “not me”, “I didn’t do it” attitude.
The chickens are coming home to roost, is what I think....and Obama is not going to be the president of the USA -and neither is he going to be the president of a replacement nation for the USA, for we will not be destroyed by this man’s radical left wing America hating crowd, who have marched on with nothing but deception and arrogance.
The “E Pluribus Unum” of the US Presidential Seal is mocked, on Obama’s image and appears as “Z Pluribus Unum”. That was proved by someone enlarging and enhancing it and posting it. -Anyone can do that for themselves and see “Z Pluribus Unum” above the departing bird, but what message that is giving the enlightened ones I have no idea!”
“Z Pluribus Unum”.....?????
I went over to Obama’s site, and you can download a larger version of the seal for wallpaper. The seal you posted has the most of the image flipped backwards from the seal on his site. The words are correct, but the bird and seal/flag are flipped. Plus I can’t find the “SI” on the seal from the site, but it’s there on the image you posted. Strange. Still an odd seal, though.
http://www.barackobama.com/downloads/#
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Amen. The more I get to know Obama, the better McCain looks.
That’s nearly retarded.
The lettering has global lighting, the compression to websize creates artifacts. It is not a Z.
It appears to be using the standard font for US Mint quarters.
It is not a flag, it is a banner. The banner is only 5 stripes wide. It’s a traditional banner used in the United States since at least the War of 1812, the draping technique is excellent, and it’s a well composed piece of art.
You make FreeRepublic look like a bunch of retarded monkeys when you post stuff like in an accusatory tone like this on here.
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