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'Basic Instinct' Director Paul Verhoeven: Jesus Was Son of Mary, Rapist
Fox News website ^ | 4/23/08 | Paul Verhoeven

Posted on 04/23/2008 8:48:15 AM PDT by stockpirate

In his upcoming biography of Jesus, "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven will say that Jesus was probably the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Verhoeven also claims that Christ was not betrayed by Judas Iscariot.


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1 posted on 04/23/2008 8:48:16 AM PDT by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

Isn’t this the same moron who screwed up the movie of Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers”??


2 posted on 04/23/2008 8:50:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: stockpirate

“Showgirls”.

One of the worst movies ever made.


3 posted on 04/23/2008 8:50:27 AM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: stockpirate

Don't stand anywhere near this guy, unless you're in a rubber suit!................

4 posted on 04/23/2008 8:50:33 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: stockpirate
Verhoeven, who turns 70 in July..

Hate to be you, come judgement day.

5 posted on 04/23/2008 8:50:49 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: stockpirate
In his upcoming biography of Jesus, "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven will say that Jesus was probably the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee,

Paul Verhoeven - doing to the Bible what he did to Starship Troopers.

I guess he will be using "Life of Brian" as a primary source.

6 posted on 04/23/2008 8:51:13 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: stockpirate

I know that Paul Verhoeven’s beliefs carry much more weight than mine because he has directed some movies and is therefore rich and famous.


7 posted on 04/23/2008 8:51:22 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

YES!............


8 posted on 04/23/2008 8:51:34 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: stockpirate

Gets ome popcorn.

He is no doubt an idiot Democrat.


9 posted on 04/23/2008 8:51:59 AM PDT by stockpirate (Obamaicans, RNC's RINO Chickens............coming ......home..... to roost................)
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To: stockpirate

He should stick to “Robocop.”


10 posted on 04/23/2008 8:52:59 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Bill Clinton: HILLARY!'s other big ass)
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To: stockpirate

This is getting old.


11 posted on 04/23/2008 8:53:09 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: stockpirate

Hey Paul - tell it to Jesus when you stand before him on Judgement Day, K?

Moron.


12 posted on 04/23/2008 8:53:35 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (feh)
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To: stockpirate

“Verhoeven, who turns 70 in July”

I fear for this man.


13 posted on 04/23/2008 8:53:38 AM PDT by Augustinian monk (Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin - Romans 4:8)
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To: Red Badger

There’ll be a special place for this guy in hell.


14 posted on 04/23/2008 8:53:48 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: stockpirate

“....claims to portray Jesus in the most realistic way...

“To the “hip”, progressive Left, realism = perversion, violence, and an overall cynical, worldly wise negative perspective.

Above all, there is the absolute predominance of overt sexuality behind all human motivations and thoughts.


15 posted on 04/23/2008 8:53:54 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: stockpirate; Salvation; NYer; narses

“Verhoeven is a Catholic?”

Verhoeven is about as “Catholic” as my cat!

Verhoeven is a heretic, is what he is.

And I sure wouldn’t want to be in his shoes come judgment day.


16 posted on 04/23/2008 8:54:49 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Alex Murphy; Quix; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Campion; NYer; xzins; Huber
Ping to some who may be interested.

Verhoeven, who turns 70 in July, has had a lifelong ambition to make a film about Jesus, based on scientific research.

70 is way to close to the grave make a living as a heretic.

And just what "scientific research" led him to this conclusion? The Roman soldier rape theory is hardly something new.

17 posted on 04/23/2008 8:55:38 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: stockpirate

Well, that’s a new angle. The smarter you get, the dummer you become.
He has quite the imagination. Let’s just see how brave he really is... let him make a movie about Mohammed and his genetic heritage. Let’s make the plot really juicy... let’s say His mother was raped by a Jew. Yeah, that’s the ticket.


18 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:04 AM PDT by BigFinn (isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: stockpirate
Over the years, Verhoeven, who is Catholic

An actual Catholic would never assert that Mary was raped and that the result was Jesus. Disgusting.

19 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:17 AM PDT by frankiep (Democrats base their ideology on the premise that you are too stupid to do anything for yourself.)
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To: stockpirate

I think Basic instinct got be his worst movie


20 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:21 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: stockpirate

Jesus’ mother was raped by a roman soldier? Gee... that’s queer.


21 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:24 AM PDT by puffer
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To: kellynla
Verhoeven is a heretic, is what he is.

With this latest bit ... if he hasn't crossed the line into apostasy, he's sure dancing along on it.

22 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:36 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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strange, wonder when his ‘thoroughly researched’ movie on pedophile murderer muhammad (shit be upon him)will be forthcoming....


23 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:52 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Wonder Warthog
Isn’t this the same moron who screwed up the movie of Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers”??

The one and the same.
24 posted on 04/23/2008 8:58:51 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: stockpirate

No one would dare make a film attacking Islam or any religion other than Christianity. They would be severely attacked and accused of “hate speech”. Only Christians can be attacked.


25 posted on 04/23/2008 8:59:05 AM PDT by detective
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To: stockpirate

No one would dare make a film attacking Islam or any religion other than Christianity. They would be severely attacked and accused of “hate speech”. Only Christians can be attacked.


26 posted on 04/23/2008 8:59:36 AM PDT by detective
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To: stockpirate
Published by Amsterdam-based Meulenhoff, the book is the result of more than 20 years of research.

Wow, a WHOLE 20 years, golly that's a lot of research. I wonder if during the 2,000+ years since the birth of Christ anyone has EVER thought about this...hmmm.

27 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:02 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: stockpirate; AliVeritas

Paging Bill Donohue ...


28 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:32 AM PDT by sono (Well, what's the matter is the Democrats are an elitist group. That's the truth - Whoopi Goldberg)
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To: stockpirate
Note to self: Do not let your beliefs about eternity and the afterlife be influenced by a Leni Riefenstahl wannabe.
29 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:46 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: detective

“No one would dare make a film attacking Islam or any religion other than Christianity. They would be severely attacked and accused of “hate speech”. Only Christians can be attacked.”

Make a film, how about just make some cartoons.


30 posted on 04/23/2008 9:01:32 AM PDT by stockpirate (Obamaicans, RNC's RINO Chickens............coming ......home..... to roost................)
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To: stockpirate
Verhoeven is proof of what happens when an atheist tries to rewrite the Bible.
31 posted on 04/23/2008 9:03:14 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: KarlInOhio

Unfair slam at Life of Brian.


32 posted on 04/23/2008 9:03:15 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: stockpirate
This is demented and obscene. However: I really enjoyed Starship Troopers.
33 posted on 04/23/2008 9:03:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Wonder Warthog
Isn’t this the same moron who screwed up the movie of Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers”??

He didn't screw it up. He intended to mock Heinlein in the movie. Although why he would do this is anybody's guess. People will be reading Heinlein long after this second-rater is forgotten.

34 posted on 04/23/2008 9:04:34 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stockpirate
1 Titus 6:1-4 -

Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and [his] doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise [them], because they are brethren; but rather do [them] service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
35 posted on 04/23/2008 9:05:51 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: stockpirate

He’s just a lonely, old, forgotten film guy that no one remembers and he’s looking for publicity and attention.


36 posted on 04/23/2008 9:07:21 AM PDT by J40000
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To: jalisco555
He intended to mock Heinlein in the movie.

Interesting. Sounds like he's intending to mock Someone else, now.

37 posted on 04/23/2008 9:07:48 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: stockpirate

It may be BS, but he didn’t make it up.

1) We have two stories preserved in supplements to the Mishnah called the Tosefta (as well as in other parallel rabbinic texts but primarily see Tosefta Chullin 2:22-24) that refer to “Yeshu ben Pantera” (with alternate spelling variations). The first involves the famous Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus who lived in the late 1st and early 2nd century AD. Rabbi Eliezer relates a teaching in the “name of Yeshu ben Pantera” that he heard on the streets of Sepphoris from one Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin. Eliezer himself had been arrested for “heresy” and some have suspected he might have been sympathetic to the Nazarenes. The second story also involves Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin who attempts to heal a certain Rabbi Eleazar ben Dama of a snakebite in the name of “Yeshu ben Pantera.”

Although Maier and a few others have doubted these references are to Jesus of Nazareth, most experts are convinced that they are. Since both of these texts appear to use the designation “Yeshu ben Pantera” in a descriptive rather than a slanderous or polemical way they offer us evidence that Jesus was remembered as “son of Panthera” in the region of Galilee, and even on the streets of Sepphoris, in the early 2nd century. Indeed, Richard Bauckham argues quite persuasively that this Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin might well be James, son (or grandson?) of Jude the brother of Jesus, otherwise known to us as a prominent leader in the Galilean churches (Jude and the Relatives of Jesus, pp. 114-119).

2. The Greek philosopher Celsus relates in polemical work against the Christians preserved by the Christian theologian Origen that he had found it “written” that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier named Pantera (Contra Celsum 1. 69). This text dates to the late 2nd century. Origen replies that the story was concocted by those who refused to believe that Jesus had no human father and was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

3. The 4th century Christian apologist Epiphanius seems to take the designation “Jesus son of Panthera” seriously in that he argues the name is actually a nickname for Jacob, the father of Joseph, husband of Mary. So rather than denying it is part of the family tradition he tries to explain it within that context.


38 posted on 04/23/2008 9:08:49 AM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: KarlInOhio
Brian's Mum: He was a Roman

Brian: You mean you were raped??!!

Brian's Mum: Well.... at first

39 posted on 04/23/2008 9:08:51 AM PDT by DCBurgess58
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To: jalisco555

I read his wiki entry and got an idea where he got ideas from. I guess you have to cut this guy some slack. He was living it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Verhoeven


40 posted on 04/23/2008 9:10:18 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: stockpirate

Another, uneducated, Hollywood film person trying to make himself more important than he really is......


41 posted on 04/23/2008 9:11:32 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Loved the book.

The movie was a ratty kids play compared to the book.


42 posted on 04/23/2008 9:13:32 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: stockpirate

Guess we’re getting fed to the lions again.


43 posted on 04/23/2008 9:14:01 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: stockpirate

Jesus knows who He is and who His Father is. This garbage is nothing new. It is the same old antichrist hooey that was used by the (religious) enemies of Christ at the time of his death and before. You would think that in this age of mass fruitcakism on the Internet, demonized kooks could come up with something original, like a UFO scheme that reveals all humans to be reincarnated dogs from Zeta ubetcha. Their god could be a reincarnated body crab from an alternate universe.


44 posted on 04/23/2008 9:14:13 AM PDT by pallis
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To: stockpirate

Since mohammad only raped 6 year olds, guess he had no children and not worth a movie for this guy.


45 posted on 04/23/2008 9:14:13 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: stockpirate

Just another leftist attack on the values and beliefs of this country. It is part of their overall plan to undermine the strengths of America in order to destroy it.

We have lionized Maya Angelou for poetry that doesn’t rhyme, and artists for art that is not art. In fact, as usual, they have conned the American people into paying for it. Rap music is not music even if it does have a beat. It is like dancing to african drums.

It is all part of the advancement of moral and intellectual relativism where nothing is right or wrong, good or bad. An anything goes society loses cohesion and is easier to destroy.


46 posted on 04/23/2008 9:14:39 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: stockpirate
When Paul dies, the coroner should dress as a Centurion and verify his death by using a spear to pierce his......nevermind.....

I have a feeling the epilogue to Paul's biography will have him residing in an especially warm place being raped by Roman soldiers who crucified Jesus.

47 posted on 04/23/2008 9:15:32 AM PDT by edpc (Republican Attack Machine Field Service Technician)
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To: stockpirate

Now I dare him to cast Mohammad in a negative light.


48 posted on 04/23/2008 9:17:06 AM PDT by Arpege92 (If you don't stand behind our troops...please feel free to stand in front of them!)
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To: stockpirate

How could I have been so blind.....(snicker)


49 posted on 04/23/2008 9:22:23 AM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: BigFinn

Let us remember, “Because, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,” (Romans 1:21-22).


50 posted on 04/23/2008 9:22:36 AM PDT by LetMarch
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