Posted on 04/27/2008 4:39:12 AM PDT by Zakeet
Many boys are ousted before 17, depending on sexual maturity rate. So yeah, that practice alone is so purely evil that it truly brands them- the leaders- for what they are.
It’s nothing put a pure selfish perverted fantasy brought to fruition on a massive scale
> I also find the ousting of the male children at seventeen very revealing.
That is, the ousting at 17 of the male children who were not already a) ousted or killed at a younger age, or b) aborted or "stillborn" because they were male.
I don't have figures for these additional alleged atrocities -- at the moment I can only repeating what's essentially hearsay because the facts haven't come out. I'm hoping they aren't as bad as I've heard and read, but at the moment, nothing would surprise me, given what's already clearly the case.
The FLDS was breeding a Master Race, and indulging in perverse sexual fantasies. All the rest was to support those activities. Read about it -- it's not hard to find references, and Google (or your search of choice) is your friend.
Excellent! Thank you for that clarification.
BIG difference."
While I agree with you to an extent, who decides at which point the government should step in. Clearly, if statutory rape is taking place, that's cause for action. The lines get more fuzzy when only consenting adults are involved.
Another Mormon or Romneyfile n00b? If another freeper hasn’t told you yet, invoking the Nazis has negative impact on your argument.
I did the math, based on the reports of numbers of fathers, ‘wives’, children etc and my estimates are that there are about 300 males missing that should be on the compound. IOW, the numbers of females is close to 500 ish and the number of males, including younger children, a few teen boys and ‘fathers’ (GAG!) is only around 150. With birth rates being 50/50-— 300 or so males are unaccounted for.
I'm leaning towards your position on this one Najida. But lets be very careful here. We're treading on very thin ice as well.
The issue is that (according to other posters) that slaves in the south could have been called consenting adults also.
IOW, at what point is manipulating and controlling all aspects of another person’s life, thoughts and beliefs cross into removing their ability to be a free, consenting adult.
Free will, true freedom is the total antithesis of the FLDS and it’s key to destruction.
IOW, I don’t believe that their has been a free consenting female on an FLDS site in decades. The men know that if they allowed free choice in their females, they’d be standing alone like 14 year old a a college kegger.
Simply chilling. An account will have to be made.
Well,
I ain’t God, a judge, a lawyer, Queen of the Universe, an IRS employee or anyone with power. So it’s simple belief and opinion.
I am a human that pretty much knows evil when I see it and will say so.....granted, as I get older, folks can just blame it on the senility. ;)
When they came for the polygamist child rapists,
I jumped for joy
Because they are an abomination.
"Meanwhile, many of the children in the FLDS group suffer from fumarase deficiency, a genetic disease that causes acute retardation and physical deformation. The disease was spread through decades of inbreeding, according to John Dougherty, an investigative reporter who has written extensively about the polygamist sect."
The daily thread has a link to this article.
Sadly, I believe you are correct. The problem is that rape charges have to be proven individually in a court of law. While I have little doubt that rape occurred, I also doubt that every member in the sect was involved directly. Most probably knew of it but it would be very difficult to prosecute given the circumstances.
Good lord.
There is surely a horrific story there. Even if they "only" forced the young males out of the compound to fend for themselves, it's atrocious. If in fact they "culled" the young males by killing them, that should come out in the investigations. A secret like that can't be kept -- your numbers are indictment enough.
It's only thin if you buy into the lie that this is about religion. It is not.
The First Amendment protects religion. It does not protect child rape.
This is not about religion. It is about child rape.
The ice is plenty thick there.
There have been too many reports of pregnant 13 and 14 year olds already for that to have been a fabrication. Once the truth of this all surfaces, then the DNA facts will speak for themselves.
Obviously, the authorities are not releasing any more information than they have to.
I raise the issue again that this is only the tip of the iceberg. There are other FLDS compounds.
What about the missing boys?
What about the missing “fathers”?
What is the accounting of pregnant teenagers?
How many 16 year olds are there with multiple births?
Once this compound is dealt with, is there going to be an accounting with the others?
Too many questions without valid answers.
And not to throw the mothers under the bus,
this is also about slavery.
I have no problem with consenting adults, male and female doing whatever they want. If these compounds were open and people could leave and join at will, OK, weird, but not my business.
But then you have children being born into this.
The issue is that for these to be what they are and work, total control by a smaller group over the majority must exist. Which is what makes it slavery and evil.
“Until the DNA results get tallied, no one knows for sure what is going on.”
And it’s going to be spaghetti code when they do sort it out because of inbreeding. That will be the real shocker. And if they do it right, they may even be able to trace which papas were diddling their nieces.
That will take a while. But one can hope.
Sadly, the FLDS is only one (though a particularly notorious) institutionalized inbreeding, child-rape closed society operating under a false religious banner. There are others, not as big or long-lived.
And then every other day we read about another free-lancer. Today's is:
Captive woman had 7 children by her father.
Strictly speaking, that father may have waited until his daughter was 18. But she's 42 now, has a daughter who's 19, and six other kids, some of whom have never been let out of the basement to see the light of day.
The FLDS crew aren't really all that different...
My guess is grandfather’s doing granddaughters. Or even closer (the way kids were moved around). Overt father/daughter incest may be found.
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