Posted on 04/29/2008 8:22:52 AM PDT by tobyhill
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A federal judge has ordered the Interior Department to decide within 16 days whether polar bears should be listed as a threatened species because of global warming.
U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken agreed with conservation groups that the department missed a Jan. 9 deadline for a decision. She rejected a government request for a further delay and ordered it to act by May 15.
"Defendants have been in violation of the law requiring them to publish the listing determination for nearly 120 days," the judge, based in Oakland, Calif., wrote in a decision issued late Monday. "Other than the general complexity of finalizing the rule, Defendants offer no specific facts that would justify the delay, much less further delay."
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Oh God, here we go again. The ENVIRO-NUT JOBS and the “enviro-beauracracy” are at it again, feathering their nest with more insanity and fraudulent regulations.
Fine, they push and they should say, “No. Not endangered.”
We’ve boxed ourselves in with loads of these “well meaning” laws and the politicians have no gumption to repeal the laws. Now they are going to use Global Warming and these laws to start dismantling industrial civilization. And people will all sitting around mumbling “well it’s bad for the polar bears”.
"Oh boy. I hope I have enough minutes left in 16 days, and coverage here isn't too good either."
I’ve got an idea. How about we wait for data? Do a population estimate, then wait a couple of years and do another?
You’re welcome, no problem, call me if you need anything.
BTT
Or....maybe that was God's plan?? :-)
Wilken, Claudia Ann, Born 1949 in Minneapolis, MN. Federal Judicial Service: Judge, U. S. District Court. Northern District of California.Nominated by ....
(drum roll)....
(are ya ready)...
William J. Clinton
The Interior Department should come back today with a simple answer .. NO.
(now go pound sand judge)
I seem to recall a dinosaur on the endangered list (alligators).
LOL! It isn’t a party without Lootie!
Interior is infiltrated with eco idiots. Several years ago I had a conversation with some folks in the USFWS, and they told me this, gave me specific examples of these eco freaks’ efforts to hijack this agency.
When I edited an outdoor magazine in the 1990s, I had (off the record) sources inside the USFWS that kept me informed about these infiltrator’s plans to turn fish hatcheries (created by law to mitigate loss of recreational fisheries from the building of dams)into nurseries to house endangered species. The plans at the time (under the Clinton administration) were to use all funding for this, at the cost of recreational fisheries. They also planned to close several hatcheries, and use only the ones suitable for endangered species propagation. I actually received copies of memos from inside the USFWS that proved this, then had top officials with the agency deny it.
And it irks me to hear a reporter call “Animal Rights” and “Earth Firsters” “conservationists.” These folks haven’t “conserved” a thing, except endless litigation taking time and money from federal and state wildlife managers that could be used to actually manage and preserve WL.
Like another poster said, this effort to have the polar bear listed is not about wildlife preservation, but about ending hunting, and drilling for oil.
GREAT point Southerngl.
There’s no shortage of gators, but at one time, when the feds were going to delist them in Louisiana, the same groups involved in this lawsuit screamed bloody murder.
Anybody else remember the gas pipeline in the 1970s that was going to destroy the caribou herds in Alaska?
She rejected a government request for a further delay and ordered it to act by May 15.
LOL! Or what?
One cannot PROVE that polar bears aren’t “endangered”, so....they must be endangered.
It’s the old “when did you stop beating yor wife?” question in another form.
Exactly but the Interior Dept will cave.
This doesn't surprise me in the least. In the West over 25 years ago the eviro whack jobs started getting a foothold in the BLM. Instead of managing the land they increasingly have become the dictators of the land and feel it belongs to them and not the people.
This talk of listing polar bears as threatened because of global warming doesn't surprise me at all, the only surprise will be if they refuse to list them. Very sad!
Thanks for the ping, girl.
Polar bear farce ping!
Yeah, when gators were terrorizing Hilton Head and blocking traffic for hours to sun themselves, couldn’t do anything about it.
My grandchildren have already been indoctrinated with this bull feces. When we were hearing some globull warming report the other day my granddaughter asked “are the polar bears going to die?”
I assured her they were not. Soon we will be having a new thought pattern taught to them.... it is called
“Follow the money”.
LOL.
Good for you. Yes, kids get this feces shoved at them at schools all the time. The Humane Society of the U.S. has a widespread propaganda program at schools nationwide, where they teach them it’s wrong to hunt, fish, eat meat, wear fur, etc.
Have to get outside and off FR and plant some more beans, after I dig out a sweater — as I finally got around to packing away winter clothes this week. Now it’s freezing outside. Hopefully this is our last cold spell for the year!!!
Now I can envision that grandaughter of yours asking you that (grin), and I bet she was serious and concerned.
I was thinking about your two grandkids today. After I finish my gardening chores I am going to organize my tackle boxes. I’m planning on fixing both of them up a little box with some crappie/bluegill baits.
Hoping to give them to the kids when I finally get down your way to go fishing.
My daughter came home with some of that GW stuff early in the year and I did a few exercizes with the kids. The other day the teacher asked the class (4th graders) who was worried about global warming. Everyone except my daughter raised their hands! The teacher then asked her why she wasn’t worried.
“First, we (Seattle area) used to have a mile of ice sitting where we live, and it melted a long time ago, so the earth gets hotter and colder all the time.”
“Second, if you have ice in a glass of water and the ice melts, the water level stays the same, so we won’t have floods.” [Okay, she forgot about Greenland and Antarctica - with their ice on land, but Antarctica is colder than average for the last 20 years anyway].”
“And if you put 100 pennies out on the table, and put a mark of white paint on 1/4 of of one of the pennies [I did that at home], that white mark would be the amount of extra CO2 we put in the air, so it doesn’t change it too much.”
I was sooooo proud. However, I did re-emphasize the point that we MIGHT have warmer temperatures in the future that would play havoc with us, but that it would take hundreds and thousands of years, and that mankind would have no effect on it. I also told her that I think it is more likely, just looking at the way things run in cycles, that we are about due for some major cooling, which will also have (more?) devasting effects, but that it will also take a long time.
"You will make a ruling on the polar bear within FIFTEEN DAYS, and while you're at it, you will procure me a shrubbery, AND you will cut down the tallest tree in the forest WITH...A HERRING!!!"
LOL... it's that dang global warming.
"I was thinking about your two grandkids today. After I finish my gardening chores I am going to organize my tackle boxes. I’m planning on fixing both of them up a little box with some crappie/bluegill baits. Hoping to give them to the kids when I finally get down your way to go fishing."
You are just the sweetest freeper ever! They will absolutely love it, and I know just the pond to take them fishing in. They will *Not* be allowed to go fishing with us however. 8-)
The solution:
Throw it to the UN to decide.
Make them ban...insist that they ban...all ice breaker vessels in the arctic to keep the polar bears habitat from being sliced and diced during the thaw season.
Those are some great examples. I intend to steal them and use them soon!
I haven’t had anything other than vague “the polar bears are dying” kind of statements to fight against. I have been telling Mr G for years that I really appreciate global warming... I would hate to have had to look out of a high rise in Chicago at a glacier instead of Lake Michigan, or sailed on Glacier Erie.
In fact, if not for global warming I would have spent the first half of my life firmly wrapped in a fur coat!!!
I may need to reconsider.
Ditto, not endangered. They’re hunted now, which indicates they’re definitely not considered endangered. The judge should have noted that and fed the bears hot plantiff, just in case.
“They will *Not* be allowed to go fishing with us however. 8-)”
Absolutely not.
This year I’m going to give you a real butt whoopin on the water, and I’ll need to concentrate (LOL).
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