Lawmaker: Investigate FLDS-linked contract (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 4/39/08)

The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 04/30/2008 | Thomas Burr

[metmom]

I wonder if all the cult defenders will be all over this screaming about *due process* and Constitutional rights?

If it weren’t for the flds case, this would probably have flown under the radar, with maybe a few comments from FReepers who noticed if they caught it when it got posted, and that would have been the end of it.

This case is no different that the flds except in size.

[MizSterious]

Maybe I’ll find out. Going to post it as a standalone. ;)

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Thx...I give credit to Obama...the gift that keeps giving :)

[PennsylvaniaMom]

I am not familiar with that story...plz post more info...especially if there are consistencies between the two, ahhhh ‘faiths.’

[greyfoxx39]

They probably did pay the taxes and SS. But the rest of the money went to the FLDS and was controlled by it.

Setting up "ghost" employees is illegal.

There are laws against phony reports being turned in on Davis-Bacon wages, which is what has to be done on these government-funded jobs. Several years ago, before retirement, I spent hours weekly preparing these reports.

Every employee's wages has to be reported AND certified by the employer, to ascertain that the wages are being paid according to government requirements. Unless these FLDS laborers are working for companies other than those of the cult, in which case the employer would not be culpable, FLDS companies would be in trouble.

If it is found that the cult has "front" companies that are nominally divorced from them, for such purposes, that would be illegal, also.

I'm no attorney, but it sure looks like RICO could be implemented here.

[Froufrou]

Don’t forget, they have to scream “due process!” as if they know what that’s about.

[greyfoxx39]

GMTA! This from the article: "He alleges the children were kidnapped by the state."

Using the FLDS defense.

[MizSterious]

Someone beat me to it. Posted here. Some of the comments are priceless.

[metmom]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[MizSterious]

Official: History of injuries found in polgamist sect kids

Associated Press - April 30, 2008 11:53 AM ET

AUSTIN (AP) - The chief of protective services in Texas is telling legislators that investigators have uncovered a history of physical injuries, including broken bones, in children taken from a polygamst sect.

Commissioner Carey Cockerell, who oversees the state agency now caring for the children, said medical examinations have revealed numerous physical injuries, including broken bones in "very young children."

Cockerell also told a state legislative committee that mothers who stayed with their children in state custody launched a coordinated effort to stymie investigators, coaching their children to not answer questions.

Excerpt. Read the rest at source: News25.com

[Old Professer]

I wonder at what point this will all lead to the government requiring a submission of doctrine, goals and outcomes from all newly formed sects?

[MizSterious]

Perhaps this will give some of the cult-supporters reason to re-think their stance?

[commonguymd]

I broke my collar bone at like 5 or 6.

[MizSterious]

For children who are not supposed to be allowed to play, I think this is pretty damning.

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Broken bones? Why there are no swing sets; they 'disavow' sports (competativeness against their beliefs)...are they all falling out of bunkbeds? Gives one pause....

Cockerell also told a state legislative committee that mothers who stayed with their children in state custody launched a coordinated effort to stymie investigators, coaching their children to not answer questions.

Gee...moms got their orders on what to say from their 'husbands' so they took the cell phones away; then, moms 'coach' their children not to answer questions...so they separate the mothers from the mix...but yet, its Texas 'fault' that the kids are 'away' from the women.

[metmom]

I doubt it. The child rape apologists are over on the other thread defending the NM group now.

Nothing, but nothing, is going to keep them from defending this group.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Tony and Susan Alamo had a “Christian” ministry in So Cal. they later moved to Arkansas. They brought in many teens to their church and used them in their clothing manufacturing and restaurant. they got in trouble with the law for using their members as “unpaid” labor in their businesses.
She died and her body was later stolen when the law got to inquisitive. Otherwise their is no connection between them and LDS or Flds.

[MizSterious]

I think this country is experience a horrible sickness of the soul, and FR is just one of the many indicators of how bad it is. (shaking head in disbelief)

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Thank you...I had never heard of them.

[I.D.E.A]

CPS: 41 children taken from sect compound had bone fractures

AUSTIN — At least 41 children taken from the polygamist compound in West Texas had suffered bone fractures, some of them multiple times, which suggested a pattern of child abuse, the head of the state’s Child Protective Services told a legislative panel Wednesday morning.

Carey Cockerell, commissioner of the agency that oversees the agency tasked with providing emergency care for youngsters at risk of abuse, said that the monthlong inquiry that followed the seizure of more than 460 children from the Yearning For Zion Ranch near Eldorado has been hampered by a lack of cooperation from both children and adults at the compound.

(snip)

Wristbands used to identify children have been tampered with, several women have claimed to be the mother of the same children and women have shared in the breast-feeding duties of the same children, Cockerell said.

(more at link)
http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/614024.html