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Police: We had no choice but to taser senior (in his hospital bed)
BCLocalNews ^ | 5/7/08

Posted on 05/08/2008 12:02:18 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Police say a knife-wielding 82-year-old Royal Inland Hospital patient was tasered over the weekend after he refused to put down his weapon.

“He did have a knife in his hand,” Kamloops RCMP Cpl. Scott Wilson said.

“He wouldn’t put the knife down.”

Wilson said Mounties received a call from hospital security early Saturday morning.

“The call came in at 5:45 in the morning,” he said. “The call was that there was an irrational elderly male with a knife.”

According to Wilson, officers were briefed by the security guard on duty before confronting the patient, whose name has been withheld.

“They discovered that he had a knife in his possession,” he said. “It had about a three-inch blade and he would not surrender the weapon.”

It’s not known whether the man was seen by officers as a threat to himself or to others.

Wilson said the man made comments that concerned the officers.

“He made comments to us that the guy in the next bed might be dead,” Wilson said, adding that, because the man had a knife, officers thought they could potentially be dealing with a murder.

“At the time, the way he [was talking], we didn’t know,” Wilson said.

The other patient was later found to be asleep and it’s not known why the man said he might be dead.

Wilson said the tasered man was being treated for “emotional issues,’ noting he suffered no adverse reactions to the taser.

“There’s no indication that it caused any problems for him after the deployment [of the taser],” he said.

Marg Brown, health service administrator at RIH, said the man is in the same shape physically that he was before the incident.

“He’s being treated for the condition that brought him in,” she said, offering no further details of what the condition might be, other than to say the patient was housed in one of the hospital’s in-patient units and had “just been admitted recently.”

Given the circumstances of the call, Wilson said the officers had no other choice but to jolt the man with a taser.

“Officers were very cognizant of this man’s age,” he said.

“But they really had no other choice but to use the taser.”

Wilson said officers resorted to taser use as a last resort, even attempting to knock the knife out of the man’s hand with a food cart.

“The officers tried some tactics [before deploying a taser],” Wilson said. “There were a lot of verbal commands, and they thought about pepper spray, but you don’t want to contaminate the hospital.”

Given the timing of the incident, just two days before the beginning of a public inquiry into last fall’s tasering death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport, Wilson said he expects to hear reaction from the public.

“The sheer nature of what [police officers] do is always subject for people to scrutinize and criticize,” he said.

“But if you look at this occasion, clearly we didn’t want to use lethal force and we couldn’t use pepper spray.

“Somebody hearing this story, if they say, ‘Well, that’s just the cops tasering another innocent person,’ that’s not the case. Looking at the safety of this gentleman, and looking at all the circumstances, I think the call they made was the right one.”

Brown said patients’ personal belongings are not usually searched upon their admission to the hospital, so it would have been easy for the man to bring in the weapon, which she referred to as a “pocket knife.”

“We don’t routinely go through our patients’ belongings unless there is some reason to suspect that they might have something,” Brown said, adding that exceptions are made for patients being admitted for psychiatric care.

“When he was admitted, we had none of those concerns.”

Brown said incidents in which hospital staff are forced to call the RCMP for assistance are rare.

“It’s important for the community to know that this is a very rare occurance,” she said. “It’s rare that we have patients become agitated to this point.”

Brown said the man was moved to a private room after the incident.

“Generally, in a situation like that, we try to put them in a private room for their own good,” she said. “You’re upset and agitated when you get to that point.”

Wilson said the man will not face criminal charges.


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; hospital; senior; taser

1 posted on 05/08/2008 12:02:18 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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"Clear"
2 posted on 05/08/2008 12:11:24 AM PDT by Krankor (kROGER)
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Couldn’t have used a a couple of heavy blankets on the old timer?


3 posted on 05/08/2008 12:17:43 AM PDT by fishhound (Boycott the Olympics in China.)
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“He did have a knife in his hand,” Kamloops RCMP Cpl. Scott Wilson said.

Oh, for the days of wooden ships and iron men, and never mind the iron. Why didn't they just take it from him? Easy answer ... policy! This is what they were trained to do ... TASE! Just like at Columbine the armed-to-the-teeth SWAT teams did what they were trained to do ... WAIT!

4 posted on 05/08/2008 12:31:50 AM PDT by dr_lew
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A couple of months ago, my Great-great Aunt (just turned 100!) was accused of attempting to choke a nurse at the local nursing home.

The family was called...the "perp" admitted she had done exactly that...she may be 100, but she is perfectly in her right mind.

She has a habit of taking her monitor off, and attempting to get up in the night to use the restroom on her own. This particular nursing facility doesn't much care for that; when my Grandpa was there, they routinely parked such patients in wheelchairs next to the nurses' station...easier than simply checking in on them on a regular basis.

In any event, my Aunt told the family, and the administrator of the facility that she was "paying good money for the place, and they were taking her out of her very nice warm bed to be parked in the hallway"...she was having NONE of that!

The nursing home administrator agreed with her entirely.

She is one of the last two of eight sisters...all lived well into their nineties. The "baby" is still living on the farm, driving the tractor around, at ninety-five. I take after them in personality...hope I'm blessed with the longevity!

5 posted on 05/08/2008 12:38:54 AM PDT by garandgal
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Law enforcement has become the enemy. I’m not kidding, these mouth breathers are just lucky more freedom loving americans are bad shots.


6 posted on 05/08/2008 1:06:51 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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And people worry that Canada will overrun the US with the some sort of military agreement.

Imagine if four 82 year olds with dementia attacked the RCMP HQ with broken bottles!


7 posted on 05/08/2008 1:15:47 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Is the purpose of the 2nd amendment to brag at gun shows and chat rooms?)
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Guess who would have been blamed if that old timer had cut himself, after they threw a blanket on him.

Things seem to have worked out reasonably well. I’m not going to fault the officers. They were there and I wasn’t.

I’m sure they warned the man before they tasered him, and he wouldn’t give up. What else to do...


8 posted on 05/08/2008 1:36:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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Wow, that’s impressive!

God bless you and yours!


9 posted on 05/08/2008 2:59:52 AM PDT by Levante
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Sounds to me like he thought the other guy was dead and he was next...maybe he'd had a nightmare about Coma. lol
10 posted on 05/08/2008 3:22:30 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us . nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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11 posted on 05/08/2008 3:45:51 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Ewwwww... I just imagined a bunch of wet pants!


12 posted on 05/08/2008 1:14:35 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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