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The Republican's Real Problem in a Nutshell
Tonwhall ^ | 05/09/2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 05/09/2008 5:51:33 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt

It goes without saying that the GOP is taking a dreadful thrashing right now. Conservatives are unmotivated, Democrats are obliterating Republicans in the fundraising arena, and the GOP's poll numbers have dropped off a cliff.

George Bush, the face of the Republican Party, has an approval rating of 30% and according to Rasmussen Reports, one of the best polling agencies in the business, 41.4% of Americans consider themselves to be Democrats while only 31.4% say they are Republicans. Worse yet, voters trust the Democrats more than Republicans on the economy, government ethics, the war in Iraq, health care, Social Security, education, immigration, and abortion. Yes, the GOP still has an edge on taxes and national security, but how are Republicans going to compete in 2008 if they cede all those other issues to the Dems?

That's something Republicans in Congress are just going to have to figure out. How do you win elections when your supporters are unenthusiastic, people are sick of your political party, and money is in short supply? Unfortunately, in 2006, the answer was, "You don't."

In 2006, Republicans lost 6 seats in the Senate and 30 seats in the House. Although it's far too early to say for sure, judging by the direction the political winds are blowing, it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if the GOP loses another 4-6 seats in the Senate and an additional 10-15 House seats this time around.

So, why does the GOP seem to be trapped in this recurring political nightmare?

There are a plethora of different reasons for it: the war in Iraq, gas prices, a soft economy, George Bush's lack of communication skills, corruption scandals, the illegal immigration brouhaha, nominee John McCain, out-of-control spending -- you can go on and on.

However, there is one overriding problem that dwarfs all the others, a problem that few people in the leadership of the Republican Party seem to have come to grips with. That problem is that conservatives, who are the heart and soul of the Republican Party, no longer believe that the GOP has their best interests at heart.

That's not to say that there's no difference between the two parties -- because there is. That's not to say that the country would be better off if John McCain loses; it most certainly wouldn't be. That's not to say that the Republican Party isn't more conservative than the Democratic Party; without question, it is.

That being said, does the Republican Party adequately represent conservative interests? No. Do George Bush and John McCain's values and beliefs match up well with those of the average conservative in the Party? No, they do not. Does the machinery of the Republican Party -- the RNC, the NRCC, NSCC -- treat conservatives fairly and do a good job of representing conservative interests? Not at all.

In other words, to many conservatives, the Republican Party has ceased to be an organization that serves their interests and has become merely an allied organization that shares many, but not all, of the same critical goals.

That may seem like a small distinction, but it's an important one. Conservatives will stay up late volunteering for a campaign, give until it hurts, and crawl over broken glass to put candidates in Washington who're "on their side."

However, it's a totally different ball game when we're talking about mere allies. Why give money and spend precious time volunteering on the campaigns of people who are going to turn right around and cut you off at the knees on spending and illegal immigration once they get to DC?

In other words, the attitude towards the GOP has become, "He may be a son-of-a-b*tch, but he's my son-of-a-b*tch." That's what today's Republican Party is to most conservatives: our sons-of-b*tches.

........Which brings us, as conversations of this sort usually do, back to Reagan. Why did conservatives love Reagan? Certainly, he was a great President, but he departed from the conservative orthodoxy on more than a few occasions. Reagan signed an abortion bill when he was governor of California, the debt exploded under his watch, he raised taxes, he signed an amnesty bill, and Iran-Contra was certainly a big scandal. Yet conservatives, who were just as serious about their principles back then as they are today, supported him ferociously when he was in office and revere the man's memory.

Why?

Simple: because there was never the slightest doubt in the minds of conservatives that Ronald Reagan shared their values and was doing everything within his power to use conservative principles to make our country a better place. So, when Reagan did something that conservatives disagreed with, they figured he was just doing what he had to do for the sake of politics and didn't hold it against him.

Republicans today don't have that luxury because the assumptions that conservatives made about Reagan have been reversed. If a Republican does something that pleases conservatives, they often assume that it is being done for political purposes while deviations from the conservative norm represent what Republicans really want to do.

Until the Republicans can repair that breach of faith and convince conservatives that the GOP has the same goals as conservatives do on issues like spending, the size of government, and illegal immigration, the Party may win some battles, but it's going to slowly, but surely lose the war for the future of our country.


TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 2008; conservatism; conservative; conservativevote; futureofamerica; gop; gopcoup; mccain; reagan; republicanparty; rinorevolution; rnc; ronaldreagan
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1 posted on 05/09/2008 5:51:34 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: Keyes2000mt

The article is spot on.

Spot on.

Spot on.

Bears repeating.


2 posted on 05/09/2008 5:53:59 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: Keyes2000mt
Worse yet, voters trust the Democrats more than Republicans on the economy, government ethics, the war in Iraq, health care, Social Security, education, immigration, and abortion.

Oh, please..

3 posted on 05/09/2008 5:54:18 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Keyes2000mt
Say what you want any way you want, NO self respecting Conservative (no matter the current problems) will vote for a Communist/Socialist/Marxist just out of temporary pique!

If they do, they were not Conservatives to begin with. Period

4 posted on 05/09/2008 5:56:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: Keyes2000mt

>> How do you win elections when your supporters are unenthusiastic

They could try the ONE thing they haven’t tried... returning to small-government, fiscally responsible Republicanism.

Today, you can’t truthfully call liberal leaning Republicans RINOs, because the ENTIRE PARTY is RINO.

It’s really the GOOD Republicans like Tom Coburn who are RINO. They try to uphold the “old” Republican ideas, but sadly they are out of step with their own party.

So sad. But it’s our own fault. It’s the result of an irresponsible electorate wanting taxpayer goodies at the LOCAL level (city, school board, county, state) that breeds taxpayer-fleecing Congresscritters.

In a democracy you get the government you deserve.


5 posted on 05/09/2008 5:59:52 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: Keyes2000mt

He could have shortened this to the last four paragraphs and it would have been even more succinctly correct.

It’s a great analysis. Newt doesn’t even get this. He doesn’t get that his appearance with Pelosi was viewed through this mindset.


6 posted on 05/09/2008 6:01:03 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Keyes2000mt

Maybe the spinelessones shopuld have listened to the base....


7 posted on 05/09/2008 6:01:10 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: SMARTY
Add RINO
That is why THIS CONSERVATIVE WILL NOT VOTE If the field is Mclaim vs (a) Witch (b) That other Guy
8 posted on 05/09/2008 6:02:02 AM PDT by Voter#537 (We must make sure our Brave Military gets the support to Win This WAR. Not another Viet Nam.)
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To: SMARTY

“Communist/Socialist/Marxist”

I agree. That’s why I won’t vote for Obama=Communist, McCain=Socialist, or Hillary=Marxist.


9 posted on 05/09/2008 6:02:27 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: Keyes2000mt

The Republican Party, all horn and no tusk!!


10 posted on 05/09/2008 6:03:00 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Nailed it.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 6:03:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: cardinal4

Oh please is right.

The democrats....i.e., socialists and communists....are clueless about the economy. Is was the Republican Congress that saved the economy in the Clinton years, NOT Slick Willie. The first two years of Clinton’s first term were lousy in terms of economics. With the Republican wins in the House and Senate in 1994, the financial markets were re-assured that this new, fairly conservative Congress would block the worst of the socialist proposals emanating from Slick Willie and his power-hungry wife, and the financial markets responded favorably to these GOP electoral victories. The end result was good economic times.

Government ethics? Are they kidding? Who trusts the democrats more in this area? The democrat congress has an approval rating of what, 11 - 13% ? That’s nothing to crow about.

The War in Iraq? The democrats want to cut and run and surrender to Al-Queda. Billy Clinton did nothing for 8 long years in regards to fighting terrorism.

Health care? Immigration? (I presume they mean illegal immigration). The dims blow in this arena, too.

This poll must have been taken by college faculty OF college faculty.


12 posted on 05/09/2008 6:05:30 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: Keyes2000mt

That problem is that conservatives, who are the heart and soul of the Republican Party, no longer believe that the GOP has their best interests at heart.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN..................


13 posted on 05/09/2008 6:06:29 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

The Biggest problem with the republican Party at the Moment?

Witness the BOR interview last night.

Commander McQueeg is not only insane but he’s really, really stupid.

Bush, at least has a brain and has kept us safe for the past 8 years.

No fan of GWB here.


14 posted on 05/09/2008 6:06:29 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: Keyes2000mt
Too bad conservatives can't wrap their heads around Libertarianism. All conservatives have to lose is big government, high taxes, debts, socialism, the Welfare state. Dope, drugs and sex levels, if they could be measured, which they can't, would stay about the same.

Especially social conservatives that want big government, taxes, and social socialism for their pet causes (And, of course, for the children).

Reagan was an anomaly. Except for Coolidge, most Republicans are for big government, high taxes, big spending, but only slower and, supposedly, more carefully. Why after 150 of government waste, scams that this notion still exists in Republicans is beyond me. So, since it is so constant, there must be a force which is stronger than common sense, experience and good theory. I believe it is cash, money, greed. Republicans want their cake too. In some ways I find Republicans more disgusting than Democrats. Democrats say they are for big government, and come through with it. Republicans seem to lie to my face. It's like, "Who you going to believe, Republicans or your lying eyes?"

15 posted on 05/09/2008 6:07:55 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
This poll must have been taken by college faculty OF college faculty.

Or straight from the DNC. Ethics? Iraq? Gimme a break..

16 posted on 05/09/2008 6:07:55 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Keyes2000mt
and Iran-Contra was certainly a big scandal

It certainly exposed the Democrats as being soft on Communism and not willing to fund and equip groups to fight those Commies. This is some of what made me a conservative.

17 posted on 05/09/2008 6:08:12 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan (Fight Socialism! Vote McCain '08!)
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To: cardinal4

That COULD be true. After all, its been a while since the Democrats controlled all three branches of government. If and when that happens again, the people will be reminded as to who they can really trust on those issues.


18 posted on 05/09/2008 6:09:08 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: Keyes2000mt

This guy is dead accurate. Great post!


19 posted on 05/09/2008 6:11:13 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: SMARTY

You didn’t include the possibility of not voting for any of these socialist clowns.


20 posted on 05/09/2008 6:12:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Good find. Thanks for posting. Sorta tells it like it is!


21 posted on 05/09/2008 6:12:43 AM PDT by ImpBill (Hi, My name is Greg and I am a recovering "R"epublican! And I have recovered into a "r"epublican.)
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To: Leisler
Too bad conservatives can't wrap their heads around Libertarianism

I would love to wrap my head around this. The problem is that the libertarians are such pacifistic isolationists. That's the BIG problem I had with Ron Paul.

22 posted on 05/09/2008 6:13:20 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan (Fight Socialism! Vote McCain '08!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Not voting hands Liberals 8 years run of the WH-not just 4... which would be bad enough.

Keeping them out altogether is the goal, no matter how you achieve it.


23 posted on 05/09/2008 6:16:09 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Those open primaries didn’t serve our interests.


24 posted on 05/09/2008 6:17:08 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Ronaldus Magnus Reagan

That’s the ONLY problem I had with Ron Paul, so I voted for him. He was the most conservative guy in the race at the time. Hunter had dropped out the week before.


25 posted on 05/09/2008 6:17:25 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: SMARTY

We can’t achieve it- no non-socialist are running. Let me know when there’s someone to vote for- I don’t vote for liberals, so good luck finding one.


26 posted on 05/09/2008 6:18:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Deep down, the RINOs/Moderates/Progressives like McCain cannot stand admonition from the liberal media and the Washington elite. It is much easier to ‘go along and get along’ in that arena if you pander to them. To pander to true conservatives requires conviction of principles, follow through, determination tempered with a basic belief in the US Constitution. John McCain only has stubborn determination and an untempered vengeful demeanor on his side. He is the Republican nominee because the liberal media annointed him the nominee — that and just dumb ass luck.


27 posted on 05/09/2008 6:21:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Keyes2000mt; rlmorel
That problem is that conservatives, who are the heart and soul of the Republican Party, no longer believe that the GOP has their best interests at heart....

That's not to say that there's no difference between the two parties -- because there is. That's not to say that the country would be better off if John McCain loses; it most certainly wouldn't be...

Conservatives will stay up late volunteering for a campaign, give until it hurts, and crawl over broken glass to put candidates in Washington who're "on their side.....it's a totally different ball game when we're talking about mere allies. Why give money and spend precious time volunteering on the campaigns of people who are going to turn right around and cut you off at the knees on spending and illegal immigration once they get to DC?

Did this guy READ MY Public Promise to John McCain?!?

28 posted on 05/09/2008 6:22:14 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Keyes2000mt
Worse yet, voters trust the Democrats more than Republicans on the economy, government ethics, the war in Iraq, health care, Social Security, education, immigration, and abortion.

Sure, and this is why the Democrat lead Congress has their lowest approval ratings ever. (Lower than the Prez.)

29 posted on 05/09/2008 6:22:34 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Keyes2000mt
Exactly right. There's photographic evidence:

It's actually very simple: economic conservatism is very bad for money center banks and multinational corporations - they need people to borrow and to spend and to envy others who do more of the same. Those entities expend a lot of money and influence on behalf of political candidates. Reagan was an accident, in a sense - a genuine economic conservative who took advantage of Jimmy Carter's incredible botching of everything he touched and a latent conservative streak in the WWII generation to get elected. America was scared - he told us everything would be all right...and delivered. As the article says, people trusted that he was on "our" side.

Many powerful interests have acted to make sure and accident like that doesn't happen again.

Today's Republicans are caught up in a massive and untenable game of "let's pretend". They have to keep the borrow-and-spend economy going to placate their backers; they have to convince a certain percentage hordes of public-school-educated morons that they aren't out to rape the environment and hurt little brown people in other countries, and they have to simultaneously keep the remains of the conservative base reasonably placated. They've clearly made the calculation that conservatives are third on that priority list since they have "nowhere else to go". Democrats have a much simpler and more traditional message: stoke the fires of envy and play identity group politics.

Though the author is 100% correct, there's almost no way to fix the problem that won't involve a long spell in wilderness for Republicans. This generation of American voters has grown up thinking they are entitled to a certain lifestyle and if they don't get it it's somebody else's fault. They going to have to re-learn the lessons of the Carter era the hard way.

30 posted on 05/09/2008 6:23:04 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Leisler
Especially social conservatives that want big government, taxes, and social socialism for their pet causes (And, of course, for the children).

I'm a social conservative and I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you give examples of what you mean? Maybe your definition of 'social conservative' and mine are different.

31 posted on 05/09/2008 6:24:40 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: cardinal4

sad but polling shows that is true. Are you spending too much time on FR?


32 posted on 05/09/2008 6:25:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Do not let the facts confuse your preconceived notion. The fact is that Reps have a GIANT PR problem. Nothing good they do gets out and everything bad does. This is DIRECTLY the fruit of W's arrogance and inability to communicate.
33 posted on 05/09/2008 6:28:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: Keyes2000mt

It should be stated that Democrats can be wrong 100% of the time and there is little or no judgement against them.

Republicans can be wrong 1% of the time to be declared total failures even by their own *supporters*.

I don’t know what happened to FReepers’ sense of high standards, but we are spewing vitriol as vile as any DU blogger... against any GOP candidate who dares to veer from our *core beliefs*...........sinking low and suffering the consequences.


34 posted on 05/09/2008 6:28:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Unfortunately the Republicrat party has strived to prove exactly the opposite. They have spent too much time trying to be “just like them but better”.

We don’t want them to be “just like them”. We want them to be just like US.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 6:32:11 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: rlmorel

bttt


36 posted on 05/09/2008 6:32:19 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: mad_as_he$$

If a majority of Americans think the democrats are polling higher on ethics, I’ll eat my hat..


37 posted on 05/09/2008 6:34:23 AM PDT by cardinal4
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I want to see this article-title, with a picture of John McCain wearing a nutshell-helmet.


38 posted on 05/09/2008 6:34:39 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: SMARTY
NO self respecting Conservative (no matter the current problems) will vote for a Communist/Socialist/Marxist just out of temporary pique!

That we know; but, if they stay home, that's half a vote for B. Hussein Osama-Obama.
39 posted on 05/09/2008 6:34:41 AM PDT by no dems (The Democrats destroying each other gives me moments of pleasureable reflections.)
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To: MEGoody

I know what this poster means. The 2004 and 2006 elections clearly show a trend. People want social conservatism but big government nanny state handouts. I am left without representation.


40 posted on 05/09/2008 6:35:42 AM PDT by Codeflier (No way in Hell I will vote for McCain - under any circumstance imaginable!)
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To: Keyes2000mt

If a group would seriously decide to build a truly Conservative Party from the ground up, we might be able to abandon the modern-day Whigs.


41 posted on 05/09/2008 6:38:03 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Keyes2000mt

The problem for Republicans is that there is no quick fix. It will take a few years of arguing for conservative principles before anyone will believe in them again - and none of it can start while McCain is the standard bearer.

I expect 2008 to be a blow-out for Democrats. The GOP abandoned conservatives, and now wonders why we don’t give cash, walk precincts, etc.


42 posted on 05/09/2008 6:38:13 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (McCain expects the democrats to concede when they realize how pure and noble he really is...)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
"..pacifistic isolationists. That's the BIG problem I had with Ron Paul."

I think the biggest probelm you had with Ron Paul is that you simply don't understand the terminology.

One man's "isolationism" is another man's non-interventionism.

There is a BIG difference between those two terms, and the difference is the difference between peaceful coexistence and unwarranted war-mongering.

The way to realize peace is to exhibit restrained strength. As in: "speak softly, but carry a BIG stick."

The way to continually appear weak and indecisive is to engage our military in nearly every country in the world, so that they are spread thin, and give them no clear mission, except to follow orders from politicians.

43 posted on 05/09/2008 6:38:16 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: no dems

Right!


44 posted on 05/09/2008 6:39:11 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: ovrtaxt
"..Let me know when there’s someone to vote for.."

Got a pencil?

45 posted on 05/09/2008 6:41:12 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Ditto on that. It’s the perception the public has, and I’d lay this on the MSM more the W, not the facts. When I hear the public thinks the Dems would do a better job on the economy, abortion (now that’s a fluky one to add), social security, the War in Iraq, healthcare and immigration, you know they’ve been brainwashed!


46 posted on 05/09/2008 6:45:41 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: Keyes2000mt

Ouch! Truth hurts.....


47 posted on 05/09/2008 6:46:40 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Keyes2000mt

"Elect and elect, legislate and legislate, spend and spend. The damned fools don't know the difference."

48 posted on 05/09/2008 6:47:20 AM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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To: Keyes2000mt
Some statements in this article might, just might, fit my disenchantment with the Republican Party but most of my issues have not been covered: George W. Bush, from the beginning did NOT represent smaller government and convinced those elected in his party to go along with him on expanding government to include "conservative" ideas.

We do not need more bureaucrats pledging to enact "conservative" agendas.

Worst of all, and it wasn't the War in Iraq, as I consider that but one battle in the worldwide War on Terrorism, but continued embracing illegal aliens here in this country and continuing to attract many more, which has happened over the past 8 years.

Now I am supposed to hold my nose and vote for one of the architects of "Amnesty," I don't say that I won't but I definitely have closed the check book and will not be out there championing the leadership nor the man at the top!

Sadly, since Duncan Hunter, there is not even one Republican that even bothers to gain my attention.

As many here, I'm sick of the lot but not enough to jump ship and vote for some third party, or, God forbid, vote for either of the communists running as democRATS.

49 posted on 05/09/2008 6:54:37 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Keyes2000mt
There's one ingredient not mentioned here: the ongoing war to-the-death by Islamic Jihadists against America, its allies, and all the accomplishments of humanity through centuries.

If enlightened people cannot put aside their differences and unite to defend this nation and freedom and, yes, goodness throughout the world, in lieu of their selves, then civilization will be no more.

The constant crescendo of “I, Me, and My” is nothing but a prelude to extinction.

50 posted on 05/09/2008 6:58:39 AM PDT by mtntop3
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