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Barack Obama: Communist?
Plum Bob Blog ^ | 2/27/08 | Plum Bob

Posted on 05/09/2008 7:23:48 AM PDT by freespirited

A Communist??? What is this, 1953? Are we the Un-American Activities Committee? First he was a Muslim, now he’s a Communist? I know, I know, but please, bear with me…

I just naturally tend toward extremes, so I deliberately temper myself when I see something that strikes me as alarming. Consequently, I didn’t say a word when Hot Air posted the picture from a Fox News broadcast that showed one of Barack Obama’s campaign offices with a Cuban flag on the wall, with a stenciled image of revolutionary murderer Che` Guevara on it. Remember this?

I just figured that office would be getting a call from the Mother Ship sometime soon. Not that Obama would be all that irritated by it, but I didn’t figure it meant much besides some hard lefties were working for Obama.

I also pretty much ignored it when Politico reported that Obama had sat down with 60s radicals Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers in a local Chicago political meeting. Those are two very scary, unrepentant terrorists, but it was 1995, he met with them once, they actually had clout in the neighborhood (both teach at the University of Chicago now), and I figured there was not going to be any serious fallout to the Obama campaign. Yes, if it had been McCain and Rev. Bob Jones it would have been front-page news on the Times for 3 days at least, but the press flacks for the Democrats, we all know it, and that’s that.

Then, I noticed this addition from Hot Air. See-Dubya there received links from readers: one showing a conference in 2002, where Obama and Ayers spoke together as two members on a panel discussing “Intellectuals in a Time of Crisis,” the other showing Obama joining the Weatherman duo giving testimonials for Rashid Khalidi, an Israel-hating Columbia professor, in 2005. And Craig Kincaid at Accuracy In Media reports that Obama and Ayers both serve on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago.

Showing up on the same panels a few times doesn’t make Obama and the Weathermen friends or associates, though the Woods Fund contact suggests they’re at least acquaintances. Sitting on the same panels does, however, suggest that Obama thinks like those two on more than one issue, which is why their paths are crossing. (I suppose it’s not theoretically impossible that Obama was called to balance other views, but balance isn’t often among the stated values of gatherings that invite ex-Weathermen, so I regard this as unlikely.)

I detest two, contradictory things: sleaze attacks and dishonest politicians. They’re contradictory because you have to read and study sleaze attacks to find dishonest politicians. When I receive a report of some background dishonesty, I research it, and if it’s false (most of them are), I get angry and write nasty letters back to the source. I’ve rejected several baleful mailings about Obama’s past that were manifestly sleazy, not to mention provably false.

But in the light of the incidents above, I’m now paying closer attention to a several articles I’ve run across, which appear to be both accurate and relevant:

Lisa Schiffren at National Review discusses the phenomenon of “red diaper babies” (that is, 60s children of Communist activists,) and the likelihood that Barack Obama is one of them. She does not make the case, she just describes the phenomenon: communist activists in the late 50s and early 60s choosing to marry cross-race as an attack on bourgeois society. It’s not implausible, as Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a radical activist at the University of Hawaii, having been stimulated in high school by two teachers who were reputed to have been Communists (the students referred to the hallway between their rooms as “anarchist ally”), and by a Unitarian church that sported liberal theology. See these two snippets from Tim Jones of the Chicago Tribune (here and here), that dance around the question, calling Dunham a “free thinker” and the two teachers that influenced her “members on the staff that encouraged us to think about a lot of things.” This article from the same author fills in detail, pegging the teachers as radical for the times, although by modern standards they seem like run-of-the-mill leftists.

Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy In Media describes an important mentor of Obama’s teenage years, who was a well-known Communist poet. Obama, in his book Dreams From My Father, writes about “a poet named Frank,” who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of “hard-earned knowledge” and advice. Frank Marshall Davis, identified as a member of the CPUSA by the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii, appears to have mentored young Barry from 1971 - 1979, when he left Hawaii for college. Davis’ biographer D. Kathryn Takara cites Davis’ “acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world” and how he held forth on American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation. Professor Gerald Horne, contributing editor to the Marxist publication Political Affairs, muses about how future generations will note the significance of the relationship between Davis and Obama.

I’m particularly interested in Obama’s period of community activism in Chicago in the 1980s. His employer was the Gamaliel Foundation. Gamaliel, an activist organization strangely merging the teachings of Marxist strategist Saul Alinsky with those of the Apostle Paul, operates with that same sense of religious destiny that we’ve noticed in both Barack and Michelle Obama’s speeches. Alinsky counseled tapping anger as a motivator for radical change; Gamaliel’s Greg Golluzzo notes Obama’s energy in applying this tactic:

"Barack was in the community… talking to the people, sensing their passion, their anger and he wanted to create an opportunity for them to express that anger and resolve the problem.”

Ryan Lizza in The New Republic, cites another of Obama’s mentors, radical organizer Mike Kruglic, admiring Obama’s skill at this sort of manipulation:

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."

Kincaid also discusses Obama’s ties with international Socialist organizations. While Obama is not a member of any of these, he accepts the backing of Democratic Socialists of America and backs initiatives championed by Socialist International. These contacts, along with those of the Party of European Socialists, lurk behind the Democratic party’s eagerness to make the United States “become good citizens of the world community.” Invariably this means for the US to cooperate with neo-Marxist initiatives as put forward in the UN. This explains Obama’s sponsoring of the Global Poverty Act, which, based on the UN’s Millennium Declaration, forces the US to commit .7% of its GNP toward foreign aid. (The US, alone among the world’s nations, may already come close to this through private charity, a phenomenon ignored by the UN’s radicals.) This will likely do for the world’s poor what Johnson’s War on Poverty did for the poor of the US — enslave them to the dole, enrich the bureaucrats who administer the programs, and waste an unimaginable amount of money, making the problem worse while driving taxation through the roof.

Where does this leave us? If all the facts cited here are accurate, here’s the complete picture:

Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by Communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists (this from Obama’s own book), worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign. Oh, and he believes opposition to the aims of radical activists will fail because the radicals embody the will of God.

I’m beginning to wonder whether simply pointing to the National Journal’s assessment of Obama’s voting record as the most liberal in the US Senate is strong enough. It appears to me that Mr. Obama embodies the fondest dreams of radical socialist organizers over the years — that someday, a candidate with enough broad, personal appeal would rise to lead the United States away from its defense of individual liberty, and into whole-hearted support of World Socialism. It’s even plausible — not proved here, certainly, but plausible — that Obama has trained his entire life for this role, and that he’s literally a plant from within the world of radical Marxism to help achieve their goal of world domination by removing the opposition of Marxism’s only effective enemy — the libertarian instincts of the United States.

A fairly thorough but concise history of Obama’s political synthesis can be found here.


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1 posted on 05/09/2008 7:23:48 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited
Here's some more. IMHO, Obama whi is Hussein, is the apex of the domestic enemy agenda in this nation.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY AND OBAMA'S CHURCH

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

2 posted on 05/09/2008 7:26:32 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: freespirited

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3 posted on 05/09/2008 7:29:39 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: betty boop; joanie-f; B4Ranch; Grampa Dave; Lurker; Travis McGee; soundbits; Squantos; Eaker; ...
Great documentation on Obama's background and what has gone into making him who he is.

The summary is spot on:

Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by Communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists (this from Obama’s own book), worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign.
This word and detail needs spreading.
4 posted on 05/09/2008 7:30:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: freespirited

Is Barry a communist?
Lets see: does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?
YES, he is a communist. YES YES YES and YES!!!


5 posted on 05/09/2008 7:31:48 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: freespirited
Obama is a communist and a muslin. Not all communists are atheist.
6 posted on 05/09/2008 7:32:43 AM PDT by gedeon3
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Barack Obama: Communist???

A Communist??? What is this, 1953? Are we the Un-American Activities Committee? First he was a Muslim, now he’s a Communist? I know, I know, but please, bear with me…

I just naturally tend toward extremes, so I deliberately temper myself when I see something that strikes me as alarming. Consequently, I didn’t say a word when Hot Air posted the picture from a Fox News broadcast that showed one of Barack Obama’s campaign offices with a Cuban flag on the wall, with a stenciled image of revolutionary murderer Che` Guevara on it. Remember this?

 

I just figured that office would be getting a call from the Mother Ship sometime soon. Not that Obama would be all that irritated by it, but I didn’t figure it meant much besides some hard lefties were working for Obama.

I also pretty much ignored it when Politico reported that Obama had sat down with 60s radicals Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers in a local Chicago political meeting. Those are two very scary, unrepentant terrorists, but it was 1995, he met with them once, they actually had clout in the neighborhood (both teach at the University of Chicago now), and I figured there was not going to be any serious fallout to the Obama campaign. Yes, if it had been McCain and Rev. Bob Jones it would have been front-page news on the Times for 3 days at least, but the press flacks for the Democrats, we all know it, and that’s that.

Then, I noticed this addition from Hot Air. See-Dubya there received links from readers: one showing a conference in 2002, where Obama and Ayers spoke together as two members on a panel discussing “Intellectuals in a Time of Crisis,” the other showing Obama joining the Weatherman duo giving testimonials for Rashid Khalidi, an Israel-hating Columbia professor, in 2005. And Craig Kincaid at Accuracy In Media reports that Obama and Ayers both serve on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago.

Showing up on the same panels a few times doesn’t make Obama and the Weathermen friends or associates, though the Woods Fund contact suggests they’re at least acquaintances. Sitting on the same panels does, however, suggest that Obama thinks like those two on more than one issue, which is why their paths are crossing. (I suppose it’s not theoretically impossible that Obama was called to balance other views, but balance isn’t often among the stated values of gatherings that invite ex-Weathermen, so I regard this as unlikely.)

I detest two, contradictory things: sleaze attacks and dishonest politicians. They’re contradictory because you have to read and study sleaze attacks to find dishonest politicians. When I receive a report of some background dishonesty, I research it, and if it’s false (most of them are), I get angry and write nasty letters back to the source. I’ve rejected several baleful mailings about Obama’s past that were manifestly sleazy, not to mention provably false.

But in the light of the incidents above, I’m now paying closer attention to a several articles I’ve run across, which appear to be both accurate and relevant:

Lisa Schiffren at National Review discusses the phenomenon of “red diaper babies” (that is, 60s children of Communist activists,) and the likelihood that Barack Obama is one of them. She does not make the case, she just describes the phenomenon: communist activists in the late 50s and early 60s choosing to marry cross-race as an attack on bourgeois society. It’s not implausible, as Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a radical activist at the University of Hawaii, having been stimulated in high school by two teachers who were reputed to have been Communists (the students referred to the hallway between their rooms as “anarchist ally”), and by a Unitarian church that sported liberal theology. See these two snippets from Tim Jones of the Chicago Tribune (here and here), that dance around the question, calling Dunham a “free thinker” and the two teachers that influenced her “members on the staff that encouraged us to think about a lot of things.” This article from the same author fills in detail, pegging the teachers as radical for the times, although by modern standards they seem like run-of-the-mill leftists.

Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy In Media describes an important mentor of Obama’s teenage years, who was a well-known Communist poet. Obama, in his book Dreams From My Father, writes about “a poet named Frank,” who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of “hard-earned knowledge” and advice. Frank Marshall Davis, identified as a member of the CPUSA by the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii, appears to have mentored young Barry from 1971 - 1979, when he left Hawaii for college. Davis’ biographer D. Kathryn Takara cites Davis’ “acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world” and how he held forth on American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation. Professor Gerald Horne, contributing editor to the Marxist publication Political Affairs, muses about how future generations will note the significance of the relationship between Davis and Obama.

I’m particularly interested in Obama’s period of community activism in Chicago in the 1980s. His employer was the Gamaliel Foundation. Gamaliel, an activist organization strangely merging the teachings of Marxist strategist Saul Alinsky with those of the Apostle Paul, operates with that same sense of religious destiny that we’ve noticed in both Barack and Michelle Obama’s speeches. Alinsky counseled tapping anger as a motivator for radical change; Gamaliel’s Greg Golluzzo notes Obama’s energy in applying this tactic:

Barack was in the community… talking to the people, sensing their passion, their anger and he wanted to create an opportunity for them to express that anger and resolve the problem.”

Ryan Lizza in The New Republic, cites another of Obama’s mentors, radical organizer Mike Kruglic, admiring Obama’s skill at this sort of manipulation:

He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better.

Kincaid also discusses Obama’s ties with international Socialist organizations. While Obama is not a member of any of these, he accepts the backing of Democratic Socialists of America and backs initiatives championed by Socialist International. These contacts, along with those of the Party of European Socialists, lurk behind the Democratic party’s eagerness to make the United States “become good citizens of the world community.” Invariably this means for the US to cooperate with neo-Marxist initiatives as put forward in the UN. This explains Obama’s sponsoring of the Global Poverty Act, which, based on the UN’s Millennium Declaration, forces the US to commit .7% of its GNP toward foreign aid. (The US, alone among the world’s nations, may already come close to this through private charity, a phenomenon ignored by the UN’s radicals.) This will likely do for the world’s poor what Johnson’s War on Poverty did for the poor of the US — enslave them to the dole, enrich the bureaucrats who administer the programs, and waste an unimaginable amount of money, making the problem worse while driving taxation through the roof.

Where does this leave us? If all the facts cited here are accurate, here’s the complete picture:

Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by Communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists (this from Obama’s own book), worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign. Oh, and he believes opposition to the aims of radical activists will fail because the radicals embody the will of God.

I’m beginning to wonder whether simply pointing to the National Journal’s assessment of Obama’s voting record as the most liberal in the US Senate is strong enough. It appears to me that Mr. Obama embodies the fondest dreams of radical socialist organizers over the years — that someday, a candidate with enough broad, personal appeal would rise to lead the United States away from its defense of individual liberty, and into whole-hearted support of World Socialism. It’s even plausible — not proved here, certainly, but plausible — that Obama has trained his entire life for this role, and that he’s literally a plant from within the world of radical Marxism to help achieve their goal of world domination by removing the opposition of Marxism’s only effective enemy — the libertarian instincts of the United States.

A fairly thorough but concise history of Obama’s political synthesis can be found here.

 


7 posted on 05/09/2008 7:34:33 AM PDT by SJackson (I'm a lawyer, Barack is a lawyer, all our friends are lawyers, Michelle O.)
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To: svcw
YES, he is a communist. YES YES YES and YES!!!

DA, he is a communist. DA DA DA and DA.


8 posted on 05/09/2008 7:34:52 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Obama: Just say "NYET")
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To: freespirited
Yes. Obama is a communist.

Obama is a muslim inside a Trojan horse. He hates America. He has no respect for the flag. Our nation wouldn't be fit to live in after four years of communist leadership.

That's that bad news.

Now for the good news.

We would be pals with Chavez, R. Castro, the socialist government of Spain and even the Old New Soviet Union would like us. More and more of what we wear and eat will come from communist China.

9 posted on 05/09/2008 7:35:11 AM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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To: Jeff Head

One problem our people have is that they don’t believe that communism exists today. We should bring back the House of Un-American activities and publish the Red Books again.


10 posted on 05/09/2008 7:35:18 AM PDT by RC2
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To: freespirited

If it walks like a duck...

And if it quacks like a duck...


11 posted on 05/09/2008 7:35:22 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Not Your Ordinary Crustacean.)
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To: freespirited

“Barack Obama: Communist?”

Democrat = Communist

BO is a full blown Stalinist.


12 posted on 05/09/2008 7:37:31 AM PDT by exile ("Get off the phone, ya big dope"- The Great One)
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To: freespirited
"What is this, 1953?"

That should be asked of the Democrat (Socialist/Marxist/Communist) Party. Apparently they never got the word that Communism was proven a failure.

13 posted on 05/09/2008 7:39:12 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: freespirited

The old racist BO is the Manchurian candidate.


14 posted on 05/09/2008 7:41:01 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: fweingart

It is clear that BO has taken courses at the Robert Mugabe School of Business and Economics. It would be a painful 4 years.


15 posted on 05/09/2008 7:41:26 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Jeff Head

Well stated, he is the apex of the domestic enemy.


16 posted on 05/09/2008 7:41:48 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: freespirited

There are no Communists anymore, not really. The Soviet Union is gone. There remain radical socialists and radical Marxists. I believe Hussein to be in that category, but Communist? no. He wouldn’t call his farms “collectives.”


17 posted on 05/09/2008 7:42:49 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: rock_lobsta

“If it walks like a duck...

And if it quacks like a duck...”

Well if you are today’s liberal extreamist the the critter as is stated above is obviously a black swan suffering from the repression of the rich white men that secretly run this country and the only solution to this sickening inequality it to take as much a spossible from those that have and give to those that don’t have or are to lazy to have.


18 posted on 05/09/2008 7:45:32 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: freespirited

Must be true, they are selling his stuff on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260238157565&indexURL=1&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting


19 posted on 05/09/2008 7:46:48 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (BO stinks................)
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To: freespirited
The thing that scares me most about Obama are his TV ads that ran during the IN primary. One of them talked about the “rich” and how we need to take money away from them to give it to “those who really need it”. He goes on to say that the rich make in 10 minutes what “working people” make in a year and that's not fair. Really? So, I'm supposed to think the rick don't work and they don't need their money? Hey, Stupid! Who do you think creates the jobs that drives this economic system...the poor?

It seems to me that his goal is to take from the rich and give to the poor...exactly the same plan Hillary has. Stated differently, take away from the productive people and give it to the unproductive people. History has shown over and over again that trying to force an equal distribution of income regardless of effort kills the system in the long run. Given that 2/3’s of the current income tax is paid by the top 10% of the wage earners, how much more does this bozo think they can take away before these people take their wealth and talent and bail out? As some other Freeper stated, he's “all turban, no goats”.

20 posted on 05/09/2008 7:47:33 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: freespirited

A communist??? Just because he wants to confiscate business profits, outlaw gun ownership, surrender in Iraq and bargain with our enemies? NAH! That just means he’s a democrat!


21 posted on 05/09/2008 7:47:50 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: svcw

Is Barry a communist?
Lets see: does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?
YES, he is a communist. YES YES YES and YES!!!
:::::::::
He is just another moniker of what the radical left in this nation is all about. No surprise to those Americans that look up once in a while and take stock of what is lurking in our government, in the halls of Congress and in many towns and cities. The enemy within.


22 posted on 05/09/2008 7:48:40 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: freespirited

No, it is just all his friends. /sarcasm


23 posted on 05/09/2008 7:49:05 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: freespirited
....(both teach at the University of Chicago now)

Not to pick nits, and I could be wrong but, isn't it the University of Illinois at Chicago?

24 posted on 05/09/2008 7:49:14 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: econjack

YEP...what YOU said.....They’ll MISS the rich, when they’re gone.....and people wonder why jobs have gone to other countries.....we have another “tax” in this country which is not accounted for....STUPIDITY!


25 posted on 05/09/2008 7:51:26 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: tsmith130

Good catch. It’s Dohrn at the U of Chicago Law School and Ayers at U of Illinois Chicago.


26 posted on 05/09/2008 7:55:38 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: SJackson

mark


27 posted on 05/09/2008 7:56:55 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: svcw

“YES, he is a communist. YES YES YES and YES!!!”

I’m thinking someone needs to check behind his right ear for 666...


28 posted on 05/09/2008 7:59:34 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: freespirited
but it was 1995, he met with them once

Following law school, in 1988, Michelle became an associate at the Chicago law firm of Sidley & Austin.

The following year, 1989, Barack Obama joined Sidley Austin as a summer intern -- and Barack and Michelle meet -- she was his summer adviser.

And, in 1989, Obama also met Michelle's associate -- the terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn, who helped bomb something like 25 targets, including the Capitol and the Pentagon -- and of course they both met Bernadine's husband, unrepentant bomber, Bill Ayers!

Another 20 year relationship!

The Obama File


29 posted on 05/09/2008 8:01:33 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: AliVeritas; Dog

People are starting to catch on...


30 posted on 05/09/2008 8:04:55 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SJackson
Actually, Obama is a socialist.

As I understand it, the goal of both communists and socialists is Marx's historical materialism.

Communists believe revolution is the means to that end, whereas socialists believe the goal can be acheived through the existing system.

That makes Obama a socialist -- oh, and the fact that Obama is an associate of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America.

The Obama File


31 posted on 05/09/2008 8:10:11 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: arthurus
The Soviet Union is gone.

I is BACK! Did you see the military parades they put on for Putin yesterday?

32 posted on 05/09/2008 8:12:11 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: freespirited

Obama’s not a communist.

He just doesn’t think the people should be allowed to own private property....


33 posted on 05/09/2008 8:13:39 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: SE Mom
I've seen in his speeches many things that jump out at you and shout "marxism". I really doubt Obama even sees it, he is completely saturated with the left wing view of America. He thinks combatting capitalism and viewing conservatives as misguided are teh most natural things in the world.

He has it all, everyone is just too polite to say it. His mother was a radical, raised in a moslem country, two non-citizen fathers who cared nothing about the USA, an openly angry radical wife, a radical marxist "liberation" minister, friendships with unrepentant terrorists, only experience is as a "community organizer", and is a wealthy ivy league liberal elitist.

34 posted on 05/09/2008 8:14:51 AM PDT by Williams
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To: freespirited

A Communist??? What is this, 1953? Are we the Un-American Activities Committee? First he was a Muslim, now he’s a Communist? I know, I know, but please, bear with me…

I just naturally tend toward extremes, so I deliberately temper myself when I see something that strikes me as alarming. Consequently, I didn’t say a word when Hot Air posted the picture from a Fox News broadcast that showed one of Barack Obama’s campaign offices with a Cuban flag on the wall, with a stenciled image of revolutionary murderer Che` Guevara on it. Remember this?

I just figured that office would be getting a call from the Mother Ship sometime soon. Not that Obama would be all that irritated by it, but I didn’t figure it meant much besides some hard lefties were working for Obama.

I also pretty much ignored it when Politico reported that Obama had sat down with 60s radicals Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers in a local Chicago political meeting. Those are two very scary, unrepentant terrorists, but it was 1995, he met with them once, they actually had clout in the neighborhood (both teach at the University of Chicago now), and I figured there was not going to be any serious fallout to the Obama campaign. Yes, if it had been McCain and Rev. Bob Jones it would have been front-page news on the Times for 3 days at least, but the press flacks for the Democrats, we all know it, and that’s that.

Then, I noticed this addition from Hot Air. See-Dubya there received links from readers: one showing a conference in 2002, where Obama and Ayers spoke together as two members on a panel discussing “Intellectuals in a Time of Crisis,” the other showing Obama joining the Weatherman duo giving testimonials for Rashid Khalidi, an Israel-hating Columbia professor, in 2005. And Craig Kincaid at Accuracy In Media reports that Obama and Ayers both serve on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago.

Showing up on the same panels a few times doesn’t make Obama and the Weathermen friends or associates, though the Woods Fund contact suggests they’re at least acquaintances. Sitting on the same panels does, however, suggest that Obama thinks like those two on more than one issue, which is why their paths are crossing. (I suppose it’s not theoretically impossible that Obama was called to balance other views, but balance isn’t often among the stated values of gatherings that invite ex-Weathermen, so I regard this as unlikely.)

I detest two, contradictory things: sleaze attacks and dishonest politicians. They’re contradictory because you have to read and study sleaze attacks to find dishonest politicians. When I receive a report of some background dishonesty, I research it, and if it’s false (most of them are), I get angry and write nasty letters back to the source. I’ve rejected several baleful mailings about Obama’s past that were manifestly sleazy, not to mention provably false.

But in the light of the incidents above, I’m now paying closer attention to a several articles I’ve run across, which appear to be both accurate and relevant:

Lisa Schiffren at National Review discusses the phenomenon of “red diaper babies” (that is, 60s children of Communist activists,) and the likelihood that Barack Obama is one of them. She does not make the case, she just describes the phenomenon: communist activists in the late 50s and early 60s choosing to marry cross-race as an attack on bourgeois society. It’s not implausible, as Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a radical activist at the University of Hawaii, having been stimulated in high school by two teachers who were reputed to have been Communists (the students referred to the hallway between their rooms as “anarchist ally”), and by a Unitarian church that sported liberal theology. See these two snippets from Tim Jones of the Chicago Tribune (here and here), that dance around the question, calling Dunham a “free thinker” and the two teachers that influenced her “members on the staff that encouraged us to think about a lot of things.” This article from the same author fills in detail, pegging the teachers as radical for the times, although by modern standards they seem like run-of-the-mill leftists.

Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy In Media describes an important mentor of Obama’s teenage years, who was a well-known Communist poet. Obama, in his book Dreams From My Father, writes about “a poet named Frank,” who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of “hard-earned knowledge” and advice. Frank Marshall Davis, identified as a member of the CPUSA by the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii, appears to have mentored young Barry from 1971 - 1979, when he left Hawaii for college. Davis’ biographer D. Kathryn Takara cites Davis’ “acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world” and how he held forth on American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation. Professor Gerald Horne, contributing editor to the Marxist publication Political Affairs, muses about how future generations will note the significance of the relationship between Davis and Obama.

I’m particularly interested in Obama’s period of community activism in Chicago in the 1980s. His employer was the Gamaliel Foundation. Gamaliel, an activist organization strangely merging the teachings of Marxist strategist Saul Alinsky with those of the Apostle Paul, operates with that same sense of religious destiny that we’ve noticed in both Barack and Michelle Obama’s speeches. Alinsky counseled tapping anger as a motivator for radical change; Gamaliel’s Greg Golluzzo notes Obama’s energy in applying this tactic:

Barack was in the community… talking to the people, sensing their passion, their anger and he wanted to create an opportunity for them to express that anger and resolve the problem.”

Ryan Lizza in The New Republic, cites another of Obama’s mentors, radical organizer Mike Kruglic, admiring Obama’s skill at this sort of manipulation:

He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better.

Kincaid also discusses Obama’s ties with international Socialist organizations. While Obama is not a member of any of these, he accepts the backing of Democratic Socialists of America and backs initiatives championed by Socialist International. These contacts, along with those of the Party of European Socialists, lurk behind the Democratic party’s eagerness to make the United States “become good citizens of the world community.” Invariably this means for the US to cooperate with neo-Marxist initiatives as put forward in the UN. This explains Obama’s sponsoring of the Global Poverty Act, which, based on the UN’s Millennium Declaration, forces the US to commit .7% of its GNP toward foreign aid. (The US, alone among the world’s nations, may already come close to this through private charity, a phenomenon ignored by the UN’s radicals.) This will likely do for the world’s poor what Johnson’s War on Poverty did for the poor of the US — enslave them to the dole, enrich the bureaucrats who administer the programs, and waste an unimaginable amount of money, making the problem worse while driving taxation through the roof.

Where does this leave us? If all the facts cited here are accurate, here’s the complete picture:

Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by Communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists (this from Obama’s own book), worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign. Oh, and he believes opposition to the aims of radical activists will fail because the radicals embody the will of God.

I’m beginning to wonder whether simply pointing to the National Journal’s assessment of Obama’s voting record as the most liberal in the US Senate is strong enough. It appears to me that Mr. Obama embodies the fondest dreams of radical socialist organizers over the years — that someday, a candidate with enough broad, personal appeal would rise to lead the United States away from its defense of individual liberty, and into whole-hearted support of World Socialism. It’s even plausible — not proved here, certainly, but plausible — that Obama has trained his entire life for this role, and that he’s literally a plant from within the world of radical Marxism to help achieve their goal of world domination by removing the opposition of Marxism’s only effective enemy — the libertarian instincts of the United States.

A fairly thorough but concise history of Obama’s political synthesis can be found here.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 8:22:46 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: freespirited
Barack Obama: Communist?

Yes, among other things.

36 posted on 05/09/2008 8:23:03 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: freespirited

I’m sure by Nov, we will hear that he is just about any and everything that we could possibly hate him for.


37 posted on 05/09/2008 8:23:42 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: freespirited
All this and no mention of Rev Wright. Wright mentioned a guy named Cone who was big into "Black Liberation Theology". A quick googling finds that it is nothing but Marxism with God sprinkled in every few rants. You know you are in the wrong church when you hear "If God loves white people, then He's not my God". They seem to "worship" at the alter of the Sandinista's, Fidel, Che, and other revolutionaries. Oh, and let's not forget Farrakhan and the million man march.

The cursing of America was what got Wright into the spotlight, but his "theology" is straight from Marx.

Obama has chosen all his life to associate with these types. People that miss this are missing the real Obama. He's not just another liberal.

I have a feeling our new anthem is going to be "If I had a Hammer".

38 posted on 05/09/2008 8:32:35 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Good summary, but anyone paying attention would already know Barry has Marxist tendencies.


39 posted on 05/09/2008 8:39:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama pledges to give every typical small town white family a possum sandwich)
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To: Jeff Head; joanie-f; Alamo-Girl; B4Ranch; Grampa Dave; Lurker; Travis McGee; soundbits; Squantos; ..
Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by Communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists (this from Obama’s own book), worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign.

Jeff, this is all we need to know. That, plus Obama's judicial philosophy. Simply put, if he were president, he'd destroy the Republic. Forget about the rule of law; forget about liberty under a system of equal justice.

We are going to hear a lot sooner or later about white folks beings racists because they won't vote for Obama. (Hillary is increasingly upfront about this.)

We will probably protest in vain that this isn't a question about race, it's a question about the fitness of a man to serve as the chief defender of the Constitution who has no regard for the Constitution. Given what we know about him, were Obama to be elected president, he'd have to lie to take his Oath of Office.

Thanks Jeff for your excellent analysis!

40 posted on 05/09/2008 8:41:37 AM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: freespirited
communist sympathizer
muslim sympathizer
terrorist sympathizer

41 posted on 05/09/2008 8:42:33 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: betty boop

>Given what we know about him, were Obama to be elected president, he’d have to lie to take his Oath of Office.<

That’s what Bush did but because he was a Republican most everyone on FR said it was fine, better than Kerry being in the the WH.

FR is supposed to be a website of influence. If it is I think it’s about time we got off our dead asses and told the GOP what we want, ie. someone who will up hold the Constitution and the goals of the Party. Now if the goals of the Party are to foster in a global government then it’s time we all dumb the Party in the trash can and get started on a new system of electing a CiC/President.


42 posted on 05/09/2008 8:50:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: bmwcyle
This is Michelle Obama’s alma mater in Chicago. This is how Barry got involved with Ayers and Dorhn. This is why that overprivileged whinger is constantly aggrieved by the rich white people and the poor white people. She is a perpetually offended “womyn of colour” who has no business being in line for the First Lady job, and she is the one who got that b@lless wonder of a husband mixed up with these America hating anarchists. Whitney Young is Ayers’ pet project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Young_High_School

43 posted on 05/09/2008 8:50:40 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: freespirited

Thomas Sowell said Obama was an organizer for ACORN....is ACORN commie? I know they work to get illegals signed up to vote, etc....


44 posted on 05/09/2008 8:55:47 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: SJackson; Xenalyte

PING Research


45 posted on 05/09/2008 9:00:37 AM PDT by glide625
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To: Oldpuppymax

Communists are just liberals in a hurry, as Eleanor Roosevelt said, after all.


46 posted on 05/09/2008 9:00:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: freespirited
Apparently his mentor's name is Mike Kruglik, not Kruglic.
47 posted on 05/09/2008 9:04:40 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: B4Ranch
That’s what Bush did....

I'm interested in learning why you feel that way, B4Ranch. Do you think Bush or the GOP have fostered global government?

48 posted on 05/09/2008 9:11:29 AM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: SJackson

The DUmmies either love this or they just stick their fingers in their ears and go, “Blah Blah blah blah.”


49 posted on 05/09/2008 9:15:55 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: freespirited; tsmith130
Good catch. It’s Dohrn at the U of Chicago Law School and Ayers at U of Illinois Chicago.

Actually Dohrn teaches at Northwestern University in Evanston (Big 10 school).

Bernardine Dohrn - Clinical Associate Professor of Law - Director, Children and Family Justice Center

50 posted on 05/09/2008 9:19:09 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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