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Poll: Most Jewish voters want Obama to win
jpost.com ^ | JUne 9 , 2008 | By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER, WASHINGTON

Posted on 05/12/2008 12:48:32 AM PDT by NoLibZone

WASHINGTON - A new Gallup survey found that 61% of Jewish voters prefer Obama to McCain, who got 32% of the Jewish support.

That number is far greater than the rate found for the general population, who only preferred Obama to McCain 45-43, according to the poll. Obama also still trails Clinton in Jewish support, according to the survey, with Clinton winning against Obama in the Jewish community 50%-43%.

Though the results showed Obama is favored by the Jewish community, the Republican Jewish Coalition pounced on them to attack Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; blueturban; bo; israel; jewish; jewishvote; jews; mccain; neveragain; obama
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To: NoLibZone
Burt Prelutsky has a good Town Hall article today about this phenomenon. He says it has to do with identifying with the underdog.
41 posted on 05/12/2008 5:56:50 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: NoLibZone

Absolutely astounding! Israel will be destroyed under an Obama adminstration. I guess I care more about Israel than they do. McCain will maintain the status quo, Obama will allow the arabs and persians to destroy Israel.


42 posted on 05/12/2008 5:58:40 AM PDT by Mere
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To: NoLibZone
"As a halfie whose father fought in the Haganah, I have to ask:

Why are so very many American Jews so very stupid?"

Coming from a thoroughly mixed (-up?) family myself, my observation is that there are very large numbers of American Jews who know so little about about Israel that it is hard to have an intelligent conversation with them about the subject.

43 posted on 05/12/2008 6:01:52 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: reformedliberal

You can’t choose your family, but you can choose your friends.


44 posted on 05/12/2008 6:31:20 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: NoLibZone
This should not be a surprise. The major initial funding came from the two wealthiest Jewish families in Chicago, and subsequent major contributors are some of the wealthiest Jewish families in America.
45 posted on 05/12/2008 6:42:06 AM PDT by balticbeau
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL!


46 posted on 05/12/2008 6:47:42 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Jim Noble

and without the US??????


47 posted on 05/12/2008 6:47:50 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: NoLibZone

#1. That’s a higher percentage for a Republican than any candidate has received in years.
#2. Notice that the majority favor Hillary.
#3. Have you ever seen so many articles declaring that Jews will vote for Obama? The MSM is hoarse from shouting this.


48 posted on 05/12/2008 6:51:56 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: MarkL

“He said that the simple reason why Jews vote for democrats is so they can tell their friends at the museum that they are cultured and progressive because they vote for democrats.”

That’s my theory, based on years of observation. If you’re Jewish, it’s expected by your peers that you will be “progressive”. Like the African-American community, where if you vote for a Republican, you are no longer “black”.


49 posted on 05/12/2008 7:22:20 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: popdonnelly

After reading the first 49 replies, I have one other observation to make. It appears that Jews, like many other liberal groups, like to be part of the majority of the in-crowd, and so they will say they are Democrats or liberals to remain in good company.

In this election, however, I sense an undercurrent among the Jewish voting population, which may yet proove that these new polls on Obama vs. McCain are skewed. If McCain is already doing better against Obama than previous GOP Presidential nominees have done, that may be a prediction of more defections to come. It is surprising to me that so many voters really do not yet have any comprehension about Obama’s background and his political philosophy, much less about his stanves on Israel, Hamas, Iran, etc..


50 posted on 05/12/2008 7:41:01 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: popdonnelly

How sad. A lot of conservatives have a problem with Gingrich but he was right when he said Obama would be the first president to be tolerant of terrorists, of extremists, of people who hate America. So when the terrorists and the bad guys are emboldened to strike, and Israel, and Jews, and all Americans, are bigger targets, will these people still support President Obama?? Wouldn’t surprise me if they do.


51 posted on 05/12/2008 8:04:41 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

52 posted on 05/12/2008 8:06:33 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette
For them, it's better to be seen as a good Liberal than as a reasonable Zionist even when Israel is on the front line against the enemies of civilized life, our enemies as well. No price for political correctness is too great for some Liberals.
53 posted on 05/12/2008 8:19:25 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you liked Carter and you like Kennedy, you'll love Obama.)
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To: Merta

Maybe they prefer islam to christianism...That’s a great mistake


54 posted on 05/12/2008 8:19:46 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: NoLibZone

1) Many Jews are so used to being victims that they are not comfortable any other way. 2) Liberalism substitutes Judaism. 3) Some Jews simply hate other Jews. 4) Obama will be good for Israel because he will be so hostile that it will shock Israelis out of their passive mentality, forcing them to stand on their own two feet instead of depending on other countries. Fight or die.

But make no mistake, Obama will be terrible, terrible for America.


55 posted on 05/12/2008 9:18:05 AM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: NoLibZone

NEVER AGAIN!!!! <<< yeah, you want to bet on that?


56 posted on 05/12/2008 9:18:31 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: NoLibZone

God help us.


57 posted on 05/12/2008 9:20:12 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Huck

The whole “chosen ones” thing drives our over-the-top support.


58 posted on 05/12/2008 9:41:05 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: NoLibZone; All
As a Noachide, please allow me to put my two cents' worth into this discussion.

As a Southern Fundamentalist, I realize something that most people do not: the Fundamentalist support for Jews and Israel is based on something very simple: Biblical sentimentalism. Down here (where there aren't many Jews), the only picture many people have of Jews comes right out of the Book of Joshua: a pack of rustic, Theocratic, sheep sacrificin', hoo-rawin', Torah-bangin', heathen-killin' religious fanatics. And much of the disappointment people like myself have with Jewish political behavior is because we carry this picture around with us and modern Jews don't live up to it. (This is one reason, IMHO, why some chr*stians get the idea that "the Jews" aren't really Israelites at all and seek to claim that title for themselves).

To put it bluntly, Fundamentalist Protestants have no historical memory between the Bible and (at the very earliest) Martin Luther. All that lies between is a blank. Modern Jews, on the other hand, haven't killed a Canaanite or sacrificed a sheep in so long that they don't even realize it's technically still part of their job description. Instead they define themselves entirely as a "religious minority." And this self-definition has destroyed all sense of proportion. Most Jews think that their primary duty is to protect the rights of religious minorities (against big bad intolerant chr*stians) and never stop to think that this isn't what Joshua did or what the Torah instructs (in fact, quite the opposite). But somehow the intolerant oppressive Joshua has become in the modern imagination the great-great-granddaddy of "chr*stian bigots" and the Jews have become the "Canaanites of chr*stendom."

Consider the ironies involved here. Chr*stianity exalts "grace" over "the Law" while Judaism is a statutory religion. Yet liberal Jews project Judaism's instransigent statutory nature onto chr*stianity, constantly telling themselves that chr*stians are going to "legislate salvation," yet it is Judaism that (like islam) legislates behavior down to the smallest iota. Jewish liberals are absolutely convinced that "separation of church (sic) and state" is a fundamental Jewish teaching, but Judaism knows nothing whatsoever of this concept (it is chr*stianity that says "render unto Caesar," not Judaism). Liberal Jews scream bloody murder over such public manifestations of "chr*stianity" as Sheshet Yemei Bere'shit (the Six Days of Creation) and `Asseret HaDibberot (the Ten Commandments), yet these are found in the Torah, not the "new testament." And ironically, while condemning their "primitive and bloodthirsty" ancestors (via projection onto chr*stianity) liberal Jews seem absolutely bound and determined to legislate the "sermon on the mount."

I'll go even further. Pious chr*stians should avoid this next statements because they will be offended. Liberal Jews like to blame everything on J*sus and chr*stianity, yet if J*sus were to come back they'd be the first ones to convert to his "general moral principals are more important than silly old laws" philosophy. In fact, I'd say that today's liberal Jews provide a far more accurate picture of J*sus than any form of chr*stianity that has ever existed. Liberal Jews who run around clucking about chr*stianity are only making fools of themselves.

Before ending this post I want to say something very, very important. Many ignorant chr*stians have the idea that the situation I have described is all because Jews study Talmud more than TaNa"KH (the Bible). But there is nothing even remotely liberal or "enlightenment" about the Talmud. The Talmud is Biblical Theocracy writ large and deals with all the aspects of Jewish law, most assuredly including all those embarrassing things that liberal American Jews either know nothing of or else are embarrassed by. If all Jews studied Talmud and submitted to it there would be no Jewish liberals!

And finally, let it be admitted that the disassociation of modern Jews from their Biblical ancestors doesn't exist only in the minds of liberal Jews but in the minds of most people. How many people when seeing a davnening Jew draped in tallit and tefillin see Joshua or King David? How many people see this sight and associate it with the "intolerance" of the Biblical Israelites? Very, very few. To almost all mankind the davnening Jew represents not the Jealous G-d of Israel (who will have no rival) but the notions of tolerance, pluralism, diversity, and absolute religious subjectivism. As long as this remains true we will be in this predicament. When the world can look at the davnening Jew and see not subjectivism and "gay rights" but uncompromising Biblical Theocracy and the Jealous G-d of Israel then we will be on our way back to sanity. But only Biblical Fundamentalists seem to see this now.

Honestly, how many people are aware that Orthodox Jews pray three times every day for the nations of the world to turn from their idols and bow to HaShem? That's like "good fr*day" multiplied infinitely!

The exile of Israel from its Land has literally turned the world upside down and inside out. May Mashiach HaMelekh arrive soon to set things right at long last and to vindicate HaShem and Israel!

59 posted on 05/12/2008 10:07:04 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Uqera'tem deror ba'aretz lekhol-yosheveyha . . .)
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To: NoLibZone

There are Jews who would vote for Hitler if he was running with a “D” after his name. Do these Jews know that Obama consorts openly with and promotes some of the country’s most vicious anti-Semites (e.g. Sharpton) as well as racists and Catholic-hating bigots?


60 posted on 05/12/2008 10:08:12 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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