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Fence doesn't stop bittersweet reunions (immigration sob story - captions, please)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/12/08 | Ashley Surdin

Posted on 05/13/2008 6:00:32 AM PDT by redstates4ever

"Francelia Menchaca drove with her family from Phoenix to the Tijuana border to see her mother at the fence on Saturday.

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You can walk to the U.S. border, Francelia Menchaca's immigration lawyer advised her, but don't put your fingers through its fence. It may hinder her immigration paperwork, the lawyer said.

But when, after a year apart, Menchaca's mother arrived in her flowered straw hat to the border in Tijuana on Saturday and put her small, wrinkled hands up to the cast-iron gate, Menchaca reached out and touched them.

"Were you anxious to touch my hand?" Menchaca asked in Spanish. Tears stood on her lashes.

"Yes," said her mother, Francisca Rodriguez, a resident of Tijuana, as her three grandchildren, including a 10-month-old girl she had never seen, strained to be near her.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; crymeariver; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration
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To: Pistolshot
Personally, I would prefer an East Berlin style fence to keep them out. Solid concrete, concertina razor wire, with guard towers and a 100 yard no man's land. Any who approach from the south will be shot to be killed.

You talk a good game, but yet when it comes to actually making something that works, you're actually a bleeding heart. At least the commies knew how to build a fence that actually worked as intended.

41 posted on 05/13/2008 6:57:33 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (DemocRATS....the party of Slavery, Segregation, Secularism, and Sedition)
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To: JoanneSD

Here’s Ashley’s e-mail. Tell her you want to lay some flowers at the spot, then when she supplies the precise location forward it on to the closest local BP station.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/ashley+surdin/


42 posted on 05/13/2008 6:59:22 AM PDT by tumblindice (She got electric boobs, mohair shoes--you know I read it in a magazine)
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To: SJSAMPLE

That’s along the Arizona border. There are 9 different types of fencing that will be installed to compensate for terrain variations. Coupled with some of the sensor networks in more remote areas, the coverage will be total. Getting BP officers to the intrusion points will be the trick.


43 posted on 05/13/2008 6:59:52 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: Pistolshot

Didn’t that moron Chertikov declare the $20m test of the “virtual” fence to be a total failure?

I prefer 100% fencing, but certain areas (like Texas’ national park) are too remote to require fencing. The terrain is too long and tough for any significant invasions.


44 posted on 05/13/2008 7:03:57 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Pistolshot

“That’s along the Arizona border.”

They moved Tijuana to Arizona? But where will San Diegans go now for cheap gas?


45 posted on 05/13/2008 7:06:03 AM PDT by tumblindice (She got electric boobs, mohair shoes--you know I read it in a magazine)
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To: WayneS
The story is ridiculous, since the young lady COULD take the grandkids to Mexico for a visit.

Actually, she probably can't.

I'm guessing she came to the US on a K1 Fiance Visa.

Once she is granted the Visa she enters the US and has to marry within 90 days.

After they marry, they have to apply for an adjustment of status to a permanent resident. It takes an average of six months from application for the adjustment of status, until it is granted, assuming her immigration lawyer is competent, and she doesn't do anything stupid during that time.

However, she were to leave the country during that time, she can't return, and her adjustment of status application is considered to be abandoned.

She can apply for advanced permission to leave and return, but even applying for that takes a couple months, and likely fees by the lawyer as well.

Any children born to her of a US citizen or born in the US are US citizens and could travel to Mexico and back. Any minor children she might have had from a previous relationship would be covered under the same Visa process as her, and would also need advanced permission to leave the country.

46 posted on 05/13/2008 7:19:44 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: VRWCmember
Why would putting her fingers through the fence hinder her immigration paperwork unless she is here illegally and trying to obtain legal status??

If you leave the country after applying for adjustment of status, you abandon your application unless you have gotten permission in advance. The process for getting permission to leave the country and return (Advanced Parole) takes about 60 days.

If she's entered on a K1 Fiancee Visa. It's only good for entry into the country once. So if she leaves without Advanced Parole, she not only abandons her application for permanent residence, she can't return to the US without applying for a new VISA and basically starting the immigration process over again.

While it's unlikely that sticking her fingers across the border would be considered leaving the country, her lawyer is giving her good advice not to risk it.

47 posted on 05/13/2008 7:27:53 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: redstates4ever

I hear them. Ah, the weeping for criminals touches their little Marxist hearts.


48 posted on 05/13/2008 7:46:13 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: redstates4ever

T.S.!....


49 posted on 05/13/2008 7:48:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: redstates4ever
after a year apart..... including a 10-month-old girl she had never seen.....

Hmmmm.....seems Francelia Menchaca (abt 6 mos. pregnant) waddled right across the border & dropped her anchor baby.

So where's the rest of the story ???? How much is the monthly welfare check, who paid the anchor baby bills ??

50 posted on 05/13/2008 7:52:44 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: redstates4ever

If we enforced our immigration and related laws it would be easy for millions of third worlders to visit. The pay back for non enforcement is the penalisation of millions of decent law abiding people on both sides of the border.
The rule of law works when enforced.


51 posted on 05/13/2008 7:58:12 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Pistolshot
Still doesn't justify the 'electrified fence' comment.

The only problem I have with an electrified fence is paying the cost of the electricity. That's why I prefer using landmines instead, they are a one-time fixed cost.

52 posted on 05/13/2008 8:09:01 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


53 posted on 05/13/2008 9:06:31 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: redstates4ever

Actually, I think this is a perfect example of a family who has been unfairly hurt by illegal immigration!

Here is a nice-looking young lady who is working legally in the US and following the rules while she waits for citizenship. She is patient and obeys the law, even though it means she cannot go back to visit her mother until her paperwork is finished. Meanwhile illegals are coming in and jumping ahead of her in line and sneaking any family members they feel like into America, while this poor woman has to keep waiting.

In my opinion we should play up stories like these more. Amnesty would be completely unfair to honest immigrants like this family who are just waiting their turn patiently. I know a Canadian woman who married a man from my church and is immigrating here and she’s been having so much hassle too. It’s not right that the people who follow the law are being punished while people who do not are rewarded.


54 posted on 05/13/2008 9:08:47 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: redstates4ever
Is that Chelsea incognito?
55 posted on 05/13/2008 9:37:44 AM PDT by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: redstates4ever

I’d rather hear a muffled report...


56 posted on 05/13/2008 10:48:38 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Pistolshot

“And why isn’t it electrified?”

‘Because this isn’t East Berlin?’

I liked your About page, and your taste in toys.

Having first said that, I must respectfully point out that since man is a territorial species, failure to maintain the territory results in extinction of that society living on that territory.

Since El Presidente Jorge Boosh is unwilling to secure the border, what works for cattle might well work for coyotes.

PS What made East Berlin what it was was rather more than a fence. Alas, we are enacting much the same laws passed by European communists.

PPS Thus, one can make a case that Adolf Hitler lost the battle of WW II but won the war. FloriDUH is a case in point.


57 posted on 05/13/2008 8:32:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principlenylon for greenhouses)
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To: GladesGuru
Since El Presidente Jorge Boosh is unwilling to secure the border,

You do know the following two issues have been holding up the building of the fence? Lawsuits between the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Texas landowners. DHS sued 50 Texas landowners who oppose government requests to grant survey access to their private property.

AND

DHS has announced that it will waive federal environmental laws to move forward in the building of the 670 miles of border fence.

You do understand even the Federal government, including the POTUS have to obey the law of the land and respect due process?

I am fully in favor of building the fence, however, within the framework of law, which the country is based on, each property owner has the right to contest loss of property without compensation.

58 posted on 05/14/2008 5:36:48 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: Pistolshot

Being an inholding owner, and therefore living under the spectre of a “declaration of taking”, I am aware that when there is an immediate need (whether real or merely what some ‘crat wants), government can “assume title and pay later”, so to speak.

What could be more immediate than securing the border?

I voted for both Bush’s both times, and under the same circumstances, would so do again.

But, they performed as they said,- as “moderates”, not as real conservatives. Jeb Bush I have spoken with at length, and he is a very good person. His willingness to allow America to be degraded by immigration of peoples unwilling to become American is a tragic flaw.

The Bush’s and immigration freaks in general, seem unwilling to face the fact that some cultures are both antithetical to, and irreconcilable with, America and the Founding Documents.

Islam, and those who believe in that “faith”, and Latin Americans unwilling to forget their cultural heritage and become Americans - these are such as are basically irreconcilable with and antithetical to America.

Remember that Spain was shaped by centuries of Islamic rule. Look at Latin America as ‘Muslim light’ and their history and culture become more easily understood.

Examples: The Islamic “Baaksheesh” is “La Mordita”. ANd, ever heard of a Spanish influenced culture where there were citizens, not subjects? And what of being secure in person and property?


59 posted on 05/14/2008 7:22:22 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principlenylon for greenhouses)
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