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Terri Schiavo's Mother Mary Schindler Finds 1984 Note From Her Daughter
LifeNews.com ^ | April 13, 2008 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 05/13/2008 12:10:13 PM PDT by julieee

St. Petersburg, FL -- Terri Schiavo's mother Mary Schindler has uncovered a note that Terri wrote back in 1984 when she married her husband Michael. Now remarried to someone with whom he had an affair before Terri's death, Michael won a court order to take her live despite pleas from her family.

Terri's brother Bobby Schindler tells LifeNews.com about the note.

Complete story at: http://www.LifeNews.com/bio2440.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1984; euthanasia; note; prolife; schiavo; terri
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1 posted on 05/13/2008 12:10:13 PM PDT by julieee
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To: julieee

All the more tragic. Her parents and supporters did all we could do. We miss Terri.


2 posted on 05/13/2008 12:13:27 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: julieee
For all the cries that the left cry out against Capital Punishment, claiming the peaceful permanent sedation of a cold hearted murder is “state sanctioned murder”, the Left sure succeeded in getting the state to sanction the murder of an innocent woman, whose only crime was marrying a creep.
3 posted on 05/13/2008 12:14:13 PM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (I want my name up on the wall of Champions...I will beat the Unbeatable Banzuke!)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Her “husband” committed the perfect murder and got away with it. The best murder is the one you don’t have to do yourself.


4 posted on 05/13/2008 12:26:35 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: julieee

So sad


5 posted on 05/13/2008 12:35:35 PM PDT by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our vets! (RIP Sgt Matthew Maupin))
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To: julieee

I wish I could have done something to save her life. But the forces of evil were hell bent on killing her and God let it happen. I believe Terri is in Heaven now. God does let evil happen to good people, I don’t know why, but it is nothing compared to eternal joy of living with him.


6 posted on 05/13/2008 12:38:51 PM PDT by apt4truth
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To: julieee

“won a court order to take her live “
Her “live?”


7 posted on 05/13/2008 12:43:31 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: messierhunter

Her so-called husband got the government to be an accessory in his murder of his wife.

So tragic.


8 posted on 05/13/2008 12:45:15 PM PDT by TBP
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To: messierhunter

Her so-called husband got the government to be an accessory in his murder of his wife.

So tragic.


9 posted on 05/13/2008 12:45:39 PM PDT by TBP
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

The Left’s motto: Kill the innocent and free the murderers.


10 posted on 05/13/2008 12:45:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: apt4truth

The evil left has no problem with murdering those who have no voice of their own while it weeps for murderers like Tookie Williams.


11 posted on 05/13/2008 12:47:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: julieee; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; BykrBayb

Amazingly the note DOES NOT express any desire to be murdered in the cruelest manner imaginable.


12 posted on 05/13/2008 1:04:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Right! and to think 38,865,604 identify themselves as nonreligious/secularist in the U.S. had more power than the 224,437,959 that identify themselves as Christians.
I believe if Terri was a homosexual or a black she’d be still with us today.

Sad that so many people are so powerless to protect it’s
own(ò¿ó)


13 posted on 05/13/2008 1:13:05 PM PDT by Dandydoodley ("If God didn't want us to fight, Why did He give us the will to live? " (ò¿ó))
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Unfortunately I remember many posters here angrily attacking anyone who felt it was a terrible thing. It really made me step back from FR for a long while. Gladly, I have noticed most of them are now gone.
14 posted on 05/13/2008 1:17:50 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

she was alive before they killed her


15 posted on 05/13/2008 1:19:38 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

oops, misread the typo, sorry


16 posted on 05/13/2008 1:20:54 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: upsdriver

I’m always surprised when I see mistakes like that in a newspaper. I mean, they do have people to read the copy, don’t they?


17 posted on 05/13/2008 1:24:08 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: gibsosa; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; BykrBayb
Unfortunately I remember many posters here angrily attacking anyone who felt it was a terrible thing. It really made me step back from FR for a long while. Gladly, I have noticed most of them are now gone.

There are still some around (I could probably come up with a list of names); however, many of those who wanted Terri murdered were NEVER conservatives in the first place and met their demise on the Bug Zapper thread.

18 posted on 05/13/2008 1:26:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; SErtelt

Life News is mainly run as a labor of love by the editor, Steven Ertelt, with minimal staff. His is one of the two or three, if not the best pro-life news sources on the internet. But, like anything else, there are mistakes that slip through the cracks.


19 posted on 05/13/2008 1:31:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: apt4truth
"God does let evil happen to good people, I don’t know why..."

Simple.

So they can be like his son, Jesus Christ. For eternity.

20 posted on 05/13/2008 2:03:33 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: julieee
Not to dig up the old argument again, but . . .

What if Terry really DID tell Michael she wanted him to ensure she did not exist in that state?

My wife and I updated our wills last week and we now (finally) have our living wills in place. I have let my wife know, in no uncertain terms, that a "Schiavo-like" non-responsive state requiring IV feeding will be the end for me. Both she and I will allow doctors (more than one) do what they can for 1 month. That's it.

I've also informed my parents of our decision. I pray the courts stay out of my death if it comes to that.

My death will be traumatic enough for the family, I don't want my life immediately preceding my death to also be a continuous financial burden. I didn't work my whole life to provide for my family just to become a burden at the end.

No offense to the Freepers who advocated the state interfering with the Schiavo case as I agree it wasn't so straight forward, but . . . hopefully I've ensured that no one, regardless of their intent, can stop my wife from 'pulling the plug' on me when the time comes.

21 posted on 05/13/2008 2:08:33 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: julieee

The sad truth is that Terri was murdered (starved and dehydrated to death) by her estranged and unfaithful “husband” with complicity by our federal and state court system. May she rest in the peace of God’s love and may her parents and siblings be comforted in Mary’s embrace.


22 posted on 05/13/2008 2:30:00 PM PDT by vox_freedom
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To: DesertSapper
What if Terry really DID tell....

You can bring up 10,000 "what if" posits and/or arguments and it will solve nothing in terms of this tragic, indeed horrible case. The testimony and facts show it wasn't about "financial burdens" or anything but Michael Schiavo's selfish desire to have Terri dead so he could go on living with his new common law wife and kids. The facts suggest no "what ifs" but Michael's corrupt moral code coupled with a complicit legal system that assisted him in achieving his goal.

23 posted on 05/13/2008 2:39:45 PM PDT by vox_freedom
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To: julieee; wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


24 posted on 05/14/2008 3:41:55 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: DesertSapper
It is always better to err on the side of life. The court allowed “hearsay” evidence from Michael and his family to determine Terri's fate. Terri is in Heaven, no doubt, and would not want to come back to this sinful earth even if she could, but I often think of the Schindler family and the grief and torture they had to go through because of the selfishness of one man.
25 posted on 05/14/2008 5:13:23 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: julieee; 8mmMauser; wagglebee

Terri Schiavo PING.


26 posted on 05/14/2008 5:15:56 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

In the note Terri wrote that she shared her parents’ values.
Unfortunately, Judge Greer. www.judgegeorgegreer.com would have said the note was irrelevant or written when she was too young to express herself. He’s an evil creep.
Terri’s note halfway down. http://www.LifeNews.com/bio2440.html


27 posted on 05/14/2008 5:21:46 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: DesertSapper

Terri spent $80 at the beauty salon. That was pretty much how this started. She was planning to divorce him and he likely sensed it. Their marriage was probably nothing like yours.


28 posted on 05/14/2008 5:23:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: floriduh voter; DesertSapper; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb

And we also need to be REALLY CLEAR on exactly how Terri was a “financial burden” to her estranged, adulterous “husband.”

Terri was awarded a lot of money for her rehabilitation. This money was NEVER used for her rehabilitation, it was spent on lawyers to kill Terri. Thus, the ONLY way Terri could be construed as a “financial burden” is through the twisted and evil notion that if she lived, her estranged and adulterous “husband” wouldn’t get her money. It is also worth noting that Terri’s estranged, adulterous “husband” was awarded a large sum of money for “loss of consortium” which is incredibly ironic when you consider that he abandoned Terri for another woman and has children with her. And finally, we need to realize that the Schindlers offered to let Terri’s estranged, adulterous “husband” keep all of the money if he would simply divorce Terri and let them become her guardians.

Saying that Terri was a “financial burden” to her estranged, adulterous “husband” would be the same as saying that Jesus Christ was a “financial burden” to Judas.


29 posted on 05/14/2008 6:10:41 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb
Wow, I should have known not to post on this thread as this topic is a sensitive subject for many.

A clarification for those who didn't read my post and if I didn't word it correctly . . .

My reference to a "financial burden" was in the context of MY potential situation. I didn't say Terri was a "financial burden" to Michael so please avoid the leftist tactic of false accusations/attributions.

As for it being "better to err on the side of life" - that's the reason for my post: I WANT NO ONE TO "ERR" - my wishes are now legal and my wife has the power to ensure they are implemented (and vice-versa). Sorry some of you missed the whole point and I hope you do as I did and get your wishes on paper asap.

Also, my "what if" posits and/or arguments had nothing to with an attempt to "solve" this case. This issue has been solved - though obviously not to our satisfaction.

One last point to ponder . . . does or should adultery nullify the legal rights of a spouse if the marriage is still intact? If so, what about adultery in the mind and heart as the Bible indicates? I'm not about to make that claim and I hope you won't make that leap either.

30 posted on 05/14/2008 6:52:21 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: DesertSapper; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb
Thank you for the clarification. Obviously EVERYONE has the right to make their own decisions and they really should be in writing lest there be any confusion.

Not only did Terri have NO WRITTEN WISHES, her estranged, adulterous husband did not claim that she had ever said anything until AFTER he had the money. And his siblings conveniently "recalled" Terri saying this at the same time.

One last point to ponder . . . does or should adultery nullify the legal rights of a spouse if the marriage is still intact?

Let's look at it this way (and this is the scenario that ACTUALLY HAPPENED with Terri):

Let's say that you are hospitalized and even though you have no written instructions your spouse claims that you want to be starved and dehydrated. And the spouse claims that starvation and dehydration is "beautiful and euphoric" as evidenced by the picture below.

Now, let's say that you get a routine urinary tract infection and your spouse decides that denying you antibiotics might kill you quicker. However, when you don't die, your spouse starts saying things like, "When is this bitch/bastard going to die?"

And then let's say that your spouse has become engaged to be married to another person and has also had two children with them. And your spouse also knows that the only thing standing in the way of the marriage is the fact that you are still married. Your spouse then has ONLY TWO OPTIONS:
1. They can divorce you, but in so doing they will have to forfeit your money (which is a considerable amount).
or
2. They can find a way to kill you and keep your money.

Knowing all of this, would you really want this spouse deciding if you should live or die?

31 posted on 05/14/2008 7:12:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I know this picture may be inappropriate for young children, however I am glad that you posted it. Americans need to be awakened from the sanitized slumber of the occupation media and see what the “state” has done. This was torture in murder and it's purest form. It is one thing not to continue “heroic” medical efforts, but it is murder when palliative care is removed. Let America see the horror and evil that was done. Kudos.
32 posted on 05/14/2008 7:24:17 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer

I agree, the image is upsetting to children; however, what it shows should be UNACCEPTABLE to ALL of us. If the culture of death is going to continue with their claims that murder by dehydration and starvation is so wonderful, then they need to be prepared to show the world what the outcome looks like.


33 posted on 05/14/2008 7:40:00 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Absolutely.


34 posted on 05/14/2008 7:49:26 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: wagglebee

Please post a before picture of Lisa MacPherson. Before the cockroach bites, the sleep deprivation, the isolation, the dehydration and starvation at the Ft. Harrison Hotel (also known as Scientology HQs)Clearwater, Fl.


35 posted on 05/14/2008 11:00:35 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: floriduh voter; 8mmMauser

I don’t have a picture of Lisa before she was murdered, maybe 8mm does.


36 posted on 05/14/2008 11:03:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; BykrBayb; Sun; amdgmary; Saundra Duffy; cyn; dandelion; Guenevere; MinuteGal
It's National Girlfriends and Sisters Week. (not a lesbian event). Greetings to all my gal pals and freeper friends who are like sisters to me.

Floriduh Voter

37 posted on 05/14/2008 11:04:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: wagglebee

Lisa MacPherson was a pretty girl who was in a car accident in Clearwater and was in shock. Instead of going to the ER, the sci-fis took her bk to the hotel so they could neglect her. It reminds me of one of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims who ran toward the police. Dahmer told the police it was just a lover’s spat so the police didn’t help the child. He became Jeffrey Dahmer’s supper.


38 posted on 05/14/2008 11:08:26 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: floriduh voter; BykrBayb; Sun; amdgmary; Saundra Duffy; cyn; dandelion; Guenevere; MinuteGal
It's National Girlfriends and Sisters Week. (not a lesbian event). Greetings to all my gal pals and freeper friends who are like sisters to me.

Um... I seem to be the only NON-FEMALE you pinged!

39 posted on 05/14/2008 11:08:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: floriduh voter

Remind me to NEVER get so much as a headache in Clearwater!


40 posted on 05/14/2008 11:10:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Now, please do a side by side BEFORE and AFTER of Lisa MacPherson. We must expose how wrong it is to neglect people to the point of death just because they think they can.

Lisa told friends she was going to leave scientology. Gee, maybe Terri told Michael Schiavo she wanted a divorce. Lisa was the first that we know of in Pinellas County and Terri was the second. Neither deserved what they got.

41 posted on 05/14/2008 11:15:05 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: wagglebee

Lisa MacPherson News Digest. http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisasum.htm


42 posted on 05/14/2008 11:17:04 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: wagglebee

Well, if you have sisters, you can wish them a Happy Sister’s Week! duh.


43 posted on 05/14/2008 11:18:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: floriduh voter

LOL!


44 posted on 05/14/2008 11:40:41 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Bump for Lisa McPhearson.


45 posted on 05/14/2008 12:01:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. Þ)
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To: floriduh voter; wagglebee; Sun; amdgmary; Saundra Duffy; cyn; dandelion; Guenevere; MinuteGal

I am honored to be included with this group of fine ladies. Even if one of them isn’t really a lady at all. He has other qualities.


46 posted on 05/14/2008 12:07:10 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. Þ)
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To: wagglebee

If you think I’m gonna ever call YOU a girl, you’re going to be waiting a long time.


47 posted on 05/14/2008 12:07:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: BykrBayb; wagglebee

That’s no lady, that’s wagglbee!


48 posted on 05/14/2008 12:25:29 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: floriduh voter; wagglebee

I still owe Wagglebee a cheese cake, but I think he should have to finish his omelet first. No desert until he cleans his plate. (Calico omelets are good for you.)


49 posted on 05/14/2008 12:29:11 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. Þ)
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To: floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb

Well, I think you owe 8mm an apology because you EXCLUDED HIM!


50 posted on 05/14/2008 12:31:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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