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Immigration and Violence Propel Father’s Crusade
New York Times ^ | May 15, 2008 | JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 05/15/2008 3:05:42 AM PDT by ruination

LOS ANGELES — Jamiel Shaw Sr. never gave much thought to the immigration status of gang members in his South Los Angeles neighborhood. With his military wife deployed to Iraq and two sons to raise, there were football practices to manage, shoes to buy, college applications to consider.

But in the two months since his older son, Jamiel Jr., was gunned down by a man the police say is a gang member who was here illegally from Mexico, Mr. Shaw has been able to think of little else.

“I don’t care about illegal people who are working here and taking care of themselves,” Mr. Shaw said. “I just feel I am obligated to target illegal aliens in gangs.”

A preliminary hearing in the killing of Jamiel Shaw Jr. is set to begin here on Thursday. Jamiel Jr. — who was black and, according to the police, not known to be affiliated with gangs — and a simmering unease about illegal immigration have unleashed a swell of opposition to the city’s hands-off policy toward immigration enforcement.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; gangs; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 05/15/2008 3:05:43 AM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination; HiJinx; gubamyster

Just murdering the Americans that Americans are too lazy to murder.

Thanks, open border traitors!


2 posted on 05/15/2008 3:43:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: ruination

“I don’t care about illegal people who are working here and taking care of themselves,”

I do. To them I say, GTFOOMC.

In fact, let’s get rid of 80% of those who are here legally working but are not citizens. They are only here for corporate profits. The other 20%, the country may actually need.

I’m tired of parasites sucking the blood out of the American people.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 4:16:31 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: ruination
The city burns, and Chief Bratton is busy rehearsing his role in The Vagina Monologues.
4 posted on 05/15/2008 5:02:39 AM PDT by Ratblaster (HILLARY 08 Bring Back the Crooked Hillbillies)
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To: ruination

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


5 posted on 05/15/2008 5:24:19 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

Each & every "critter" should be asked about these stats from their own city....

As of 2006 the census says Hispanics are between 8%-15% of the population in Washington DC.......however, those wanted for murder, in DC are 80% hispanic.

6 posted on 05/15/2008 7:08:05 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: txdoda

Nobody seems to understand the problem with Illegal Aliens, If we started deporting these people we would be forced to Close down half the schools in Los Angeles, 35% of the Police Officers would have to be laid off, 50% of the Social Services employees would be laid off, Our freeways would have very little traffic, CALTRANS would have to be reduced by 25%, All traffic controls on freeway onramps would have to be shut down, We might even have to go back to a Part Time Legislature, and not to mention that we would have to find a whole new group of people to take over the Illegal Trade of controlled substances. If you think we are going to scale back government, forget it.

Eyeamok


7 posted on 05/15/2008 8:56:52 AM PDT by eyeamok
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8 posted on 05/15/2008 9:33:34 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I also care about the illegals who are working here. They have shown they readily break our laws if it benefits them. Why should they get ahead of the line of those who want to migrate legally this country? All illegal aliens should be deported, and it can be done. Eisenhower did it.


9 posted on 05/15/2008 10:10:58 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Ratblaster

immigrant ping


10 posted on 05/15/2008 10:56:13 AM PDT by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: txdoda
Have you seen the DEA's most wanted fugitive lists? Just pick a region.
11 posted on 05/15/2008 3:53:47 PM PDT by ruination
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