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Montana’s Bakken Oil Field: Good News for US Consumers, Bad News for MSM
DBKP ^ | May 15, 2008 | Mondoreb

Posted on 05/15/2008 6:25:17 PM PDT by mondoreb

HUGE Oil Field in Montana is Good News for Consumers --Which Makes it Unpalatable for the Mainstream Media

While Jeroen van der Veer, Shell’s chief executive, fears for the future of oil supplies after 2015--maybe he's confusing Shell's oil supply with the rest of the world's--Newsmax has just released information on the HUGE oil discovery in Montana: the Williston Basin or "Bakken" field.

About 470 miles outside the state capitol of Helena - in a place called Richland County, Montana - more millionaires are being created per capita than anywhere else in America.

It's the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska's Prudhoe Bay and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil.

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable... at $107 a barrel, Montana is looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion.

* "When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.

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For years, U.S. oil exploration has been considered a dead end. Even the "Big Oil" companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves... and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels.

And because this is light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!

That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 41 years straight.

As one can see from the map below, before the 'Bakken' discovery, the U.S. was still a major oil producer--it is just a major consumer, also.

(Excerpt) Read more at deathby1000papercuts.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: bakken; energy; montana; oil; oilproduction; willisonbasin
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In a place called Richland County, Montana - a HUGE oil field promises 503 barrels of sweet crude in a place where more millionaires are being created per capita than anywhere else in America.

Which puts it in the "uninteresting" category for the MSM right now.

1 posted on 05/15/2008 6:25:18 PM PDT by mondoreb
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To: mondoreb

somebody’s gonna discover trillion barrel field about 8 miles down one of these days.


2 posted on 05/15/2008 6:26:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (my money's on righteous hustle and blue eyed soul.)
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To: mondoreb

I’d feel better about this if something other than Newsmax carried it.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 6:27:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (my money's on righteous hustle and blue eyed soul.)
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To: mondoreb

So, how will the enviroweenies kill this? Oh, yeah, carbon tax.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 6:29:11 PM PDT by dadgum (Growing weary.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

As I heard it, the Bakken Field was well known, but new Tech made it profitable to exploit now.

Drill baby drill, make those Montana millionaires!


5 posted on 05/15/2008 6:29:18 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: mondoreb
-- However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves--

--I'd like to know more about this--

6 posted on 05/15/2008 6:30:23 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: mondoreb
Bad case of dumbass here.

Only 4 billion barrels...not 400 billion.

7 posted on 05/15/2008 6:30:43 PM PDT by stboz
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To: mondoreb

The Dems will come up with a bill to stop any drilling in MT. They just love us being dependent on the A-Rabs.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 6:32:58 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: dadgum
Me and the offspring in the middle of the Bakken, Teddy Roosevelt NP.


9 posted on 05/15/2008 6:34:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Individualism is the Perfection of Diversity.)
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To: mondoreb
When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea.

Yeah, my jaw hit the floor as well. Back when I heard about it a few weeks ago!

10 posted on 05/15/2008 6:34:52 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: mondoreb

Darn. Frank Zappa had it right..I should have listened to him!


11 posted on 05/15/2008 6:36:52 PM PDT by Post5203 (The only "hope" for "change" in Washington is term limits for congress.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Several years back geologists "just messing around" discovered a major mountain range running under Michigan, Indiana and Illinois. It's got massive mountains and valleys, and it's covered up by thousands of feet of debris and sedimentary rocks.

Roughly the configuration of an "overthrust belt" you might well drill somewhat less than 8 miles to find the gas and oil hidden in it.

12 posted on 05/15/2008 6:37:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: the invisib1e hand
I thought it was mainly North Dakota.....and funny that we've heard little about this actual site since the report came out a few weeks ago....I am wondering if there is more bluster than bombshell...

IF anyone knows anything about this oil field, when do the original homesteaders get alerted?....do you wait or do you have to be proactive to actually see any money.....

13 posted on 05/15/2008 6:37:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: mondoreb

Your info is about 40 years out of date.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 6:38:09 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: mondoreb
The Bakken oil formation is not a "New" discovery, it has been known since the 50's, was given a serious look at in '80's and had over 300 oil wells (in N.D.) in 2006.

Newsmax is not the most reliable source for info.

15 posted on 05/15/2008 6:38:33 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Post5203
Darn. Frank Zappa had it right..

look what it got him.

16 posted on 05/15/2008 6:42:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (my money's on righteous hustle and blue eyed soul.)
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To: cherry
IF anyone knows anything about this oil field, when do the original homesteaders get alerted?....do you wait or do you have to be proactive to actually see any money.....

An Aunt, now deceased, received a great deal of income on royalties from a section of land which was part of the homestead of her parents, this is in the Minot area of ND. This was from '81 to '89.

We still have a section, the one next to hers, and have leased drilling rights to an oil company, who drilled, then capped the wells. They have recently renewed the lease and we are keeping our fingers crossed.

They contacted us about twelve years ago and have been renewing the lease each four years.

17 posted on 05/15/2008 6:46:17 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: the invisib1e hand
Here is a LONG read by a Petroleum Engineer. It appears the Newmax article might be somewhat generous but what do I know.

Click Here

18 posted on 05/15/2008 6:46:32 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Michael.SF.

The numbers in the article are wildly inflated and it appears to be riddled with inaccuracies.


19 posted on 05/15/2008 6:47:22 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: rellimpank
The "new technology" is actually horizontal drilling. The Bakken formation is about 10,000 feet down, but it's only about 15' thick. The way to best exploit it is to drill one vertical hole, then drill several horizontal tracks at the desired depth.

It sounds tricky...and it is. Plus, it's expensive. They're using the same technology to exploit the Barnett shale for natural gas down here in Texas.

For more, go here.

20 posted on 05/15/2008 6:47:37 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: the invisib1e hand
If it gets us off the Arab teat, gimme a shovel, a varmint gun to keep the ecoNazis away from my claim, and I'll dig it out myself.


21 posted on 05/15/2008 6:49:27 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Paul Krugman: Conscience Of A Crapweasel. (For lack of a better tagline at the moment.)
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To: stboz

Thanx for the info. I’ll be searching for more sources on this now. The “400 billion” came from the Newsmax information. Thanx for the heads-up.


22 posted on 05/15/2008 6:49:35 PM PDT by mondoreb
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To: Spunky
Here is a LONG read by a Petroleum Engineer. It appears the Newmax article might be somewhat generous but what do I know.

The article you reference appears to be a well-reasoned scientific analysis by someone that knows what they're talking about.

Therefore I doubt it will be very popular here. People are far more interested in fantasy optimistic nonsense when it comes to oil.

23 posted on 05/15/2008 6:51:39 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: padre35
Drill baby drill, make those Montana millionaires!

If that's what it takes to turn Ted Turner into a millionaire
from a billionaire...DRILL BABY DRILL!!!

(Turner at least has big land holdings and a hacienda in MT)
24 posted on 05/15/2008 6:52:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Strategerist
Welcome to Newsmax.

From Wikipedia (I know also not the most reliable source):

In April 2008 the USGS released this report, which estimated the amount of technically recoverable, undiscovered oil in the Bakken Formation at 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels, with a mean of 3.65 billion.[14] Later that month, the state of North Dakota's report [15] estimated that of the 167 billion barrels of oil in-place in the North Dakota portion of the Bakken, 2.1 billion barrels were technically recoverable with current technology.

Numbers are all over the map, probably because the oil is of two types, free oil, pumpable by deep well technology and shale oil, extractable via expensive extraction methods.

25 posted on 05/15/2008 6:53:56 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: the invisib1e hand
Yes,,,, I have the same doubts with Newmax like WorldNetDaily.
I better do my own independent search on the web of this discovery of oil.
All I got to say is, we have enough oil with the new technologies to provide for all our energy needs in this country, if only the environmentalist would let us drill for oil.
26 posted on 05/15/2008 6:54:11 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Strategerist

“People are far more interested in fantasy optimistic nonsense when it comes to oil.”

You mean that YouTube video where a guy runs a car on water isn’t true either?!?!? You know, the guy who died suddenly, which proves that the technology worked?

(ducking for cover)


27 posted on 05/15/2008 6:56:53 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: mondoreb

I first heard about this Baaken field about 2 months ago. The other posters above are correct in saying that the new method of horizontal drilling is making this oil accesible, but it’s been known about for 50 years.

I did quite a bit of homework on what companies were involved in drilling there and bought stock in what I considered the 4 best plays there. I bought BEXP, NOG, KOG and TEC, all of which trade in the US on the AMEX. It’s been pretty close to a home run play in a short amount of time. I’ve taken down a lot of profit and am still holding a smaller core position. It’s unclear to me at this time how much of this is pure hype or pump and dump on these stocks and what the eventual outcome will be.

The estimates of a potential 400 billion barrels are reliable, what’s not reliable is how much of that is economically feasible to extract.


28 posted on 05/15/2008 6:58:31 PM PDT by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180

BUMP!


29 posted on 05/15/2008 7:00:43 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: jsh3180

BUMP!


30 posted on 05/15/2008 7:02:51 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
> I’d feel better about this if something other than Newsmax carried it.

State Bakken estimate released
http://www.minotdailynews.com/page/content.detail/id/514666.html?nav=5010

Group Looks at Oil Extraction Option
http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_Stories.asp?news=18059

Minot is rockin' with talk of Bakken
http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2008/04/29/news/topnews/154395.txt

31 posted on 05/15/2008 7:06:37 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

feel better already.


32 posted on 05/15/2008 7:08:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (my money's on righteous hustle and blue eyed soul.)
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To: Strategerist
People are far more interested in fantasy optimistic nonsense when it comes to oil.

and politics. and just about everything else.

33 posted on 05/15/2008 7:11:12 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (my money's on righteous hustle and blue eyed soul.)
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To: mondoreb
http://www.movermike.com/posts/1207892942.shtml

Bakken Formation Survey Is Out

 

The very first story I read about the Bakken Formation was in the NYTimes of January 1. 2008:

Estimates have ranged wildly, said Julie LeFever, a geologist with the North Dakota Geological Survey, but many scientists suspect that the Bakken may contain 200 billion barrels of oil — significantly more, for instance, than the much debated field in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Still more in doubt, though, is how much trapped oil can be recovered. (emphasis added)
200 Billion barrels of oil! That caught my attention.

Then the Dakota Voice wrote on April 6, 2008:

The US Geological Survey is about to release a new report on the Bakken Formation, an oil deposit that spans areas of North and South Dakota and parts of Montana. The report will specify accurate assessments of the oil reserve that is currently estimated to contain up to 500 billion barrels of recoverable oil. If true, this will expand the known oil reserves of the U.S. up to ten times the known capacity to date. (emphasis added)
Well, the report from the USGS is out, hat tip to Instapundit and Next Big Future
Using a geology-based assessment methodology, the U.S. Geological Survey estimated mean undiscovered volumes of 3.65 billion barrels of oil, 1.85 trillion cubic feet of associated/dissolved natural gas, and 148 million barrels of natural gas liquids in the Bakken Formation of the Williston Basin Province, Montana and North Dakota. (emphasis added)
3.65 Billion barrels is a far cry from 500 billion barrels, but it does increase our proved reserves from 42 billion barrels to 45 billion barrels a 6.7% increase. Some may find the USGS report extremely disappointing. However, The USGS press release of Technically Recoverable Oil Assessed in North Dakota and Montana’s Bakken Formation is 25 Times More Than 1995 Estimate. As more wells are drilled with the new technology available, expect to see estimates move much higher.
34 posted on 05/15/2008 7:14:09 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Viking2002
If it gets us off the Arab teat

Russia is (or the USSR was) the second largest exporter of oil. That's one dictatorship, not a cabal of excitable, egotistical arabs.

The problem with oil in our age is communism, not OPEC.

35 posted on 05/15/2008 7:14:31 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (my money's on righteous hustle and blue eyed soul.)
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To: mondoreb

A breakthrough in battery design will make oil only used for lubrication.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 7:19:36 PM PDT by Waco
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To: cherry

“I thought it was mainly North Dakota.....and funny that we’ve heard little about this actual site since the report came out a few weeks ago....I am wondering if there is more bluster than bombshell...”

It’s odd that we’ve had several threads on the Bakken find at FR, but all I’ve noticed before located it in North Dakota, mentioning 200 - 300 billion barrels, with much less recoverable.

Now, we have a report of 500 billion barrels in Montana, I assume they’re talking about the same find, and all these estimated barrels are for the same filed. Saw no mention of ND in this article.

I think a good number of reporters are writing about this, and most are not very knowledgeable on the subject of crude oil finds.


37 posted on 05/15/2008 7:30:59 PM PDT by Will88
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To: mondoreb

Does anyone else share my theory that the Earth is still creating oil?


38 posted on 05/15/2008 7:34:50 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“somebody’s gonna discover trillion barrel field about 8 miles down one of these days.”

Ideally, about 10-15 miles off the Florida coast.


39 posted on 05/15/2008 7:36:55 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It’s true.......


40 posted on 05/15/2008 7:38:00 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I’d feel better about this if something other than Newsmax carried it

Why? It's true. We have tha same thing happening here in western North Dakota. Major activity happening, drilling rigs, gas and oil pipelines being built. This is huge!

41 posted on 05/15/2008 7:38:04 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: mondoreb

“a HUGE oil field promises 503 barrels of sweet crude”

Not anything to write home about.

OK, I know it’s a typo!


42 posted on 05/15/2008 7:38:47 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Teddy Roosevelt NP.”

That bothers me a bit. The enviros will shriek and howl.

Makes me hope there’s an oil jackpot discovered one day in the center of Yosemite Valley.


43 posted on 05/15/2008 7:40:46 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: mondoreb

The numbers in this “report” are wrong.


44 posted on 05/15/2008 7:42:22 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: VOA
If that's what it takes to turn Ted Turner into a millionaire from a billionaire...DRILL BABY DRILL!!!

I doubt that Ted Turner owns the mineral rights to the land he bought. Most land sellers in the last 40 years have retained the rights to minerals, at least a portion of them.

45 posted on 05/15/2008 7:46:54 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: mondoreb

Quick . . .let’s elect the RATS to office so they can make it a national monument and off-limits to drilling.


46 posted on 05/15/2008 7:47:50 PM PDT by RatRipper
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To: mondoreb

It’s bad news for environmentalists, who loathe oil and have way too much influence in Washington.


47 posted on 05/15/2008 7:54:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: Waco

That breakthrough in battery design has been predicted every year since 1900.


48 posted on 05/15/2008 7:56:15 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: Rebelbase
Ideally, about 10-15 miles off the Florida coast.

Where we can't pump it? Better to find it in Texas...:)

49 posted on 05/15/2008 7:57:47 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: the invisib1e hand

2nd that. It’s a shame they and WND went off the deep end on so many topics.


50 posted on 05/15/2008 7:59:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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