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I'm surprised the libs support this. It does nothing to get guns off the street. All it does is help put criminals in jail. It's diametrically opposite everything they stand for.

On the other hand, they don't seem to be pushing it too hard.

1 posted on 05/16/2008 4:55:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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"In October 2007, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law AB 1471, requiring that all new models of semiautomatic pistols sold in California on or after Jan. 1, 2010, be engraved in two or more places with an identifying code that is transferred to the cartridge case on firing. Similar legislation has been proposed in other states and at the federal level."

Terminator guns were exempted.


2 posted on 05/16/2008 4:58:18 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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It’s about the money.

The company that holds the patent is giving heavily to the D’s.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 4:58:55 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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Aw jeez, not this $#!+ again....
4 posted on 05/16/2008 5:01:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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Why are you so surprised? Registration of ammunition is just one giant step towards the real objective of registering firearms.


5 posted on 05/16/2008 5:04:00 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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The law is designed to make guns more expensive or even unavailable if industry is unable to comply with the micro stamping requirement. It’s gun control by other means.


8 posted on 05/16/2008 5:09:19 AM PDT by saganite
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Codes engraved on the face of the firing pin could easily be removed with household tools, Beddow found.

When files are outlawed, only criminals will have .....

11 posted on 05/16/2008 5:24:31 AM PDT by TYVets
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Nothing to see here. Move along. Taggants and stamping have been floated since the 1970s. Libs support it because a working system doesn’t exist yet, and won’t by the deadline set of 2010. Can’t make the deadline? Can’t keep your guns. However...
“More testing in a wider range of firearms is needed, the researchers said.” Translation: “We’ll keep flogging this dead horse until we get the results we want.”


12 posted on 05/16/2008 5:26:47 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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Haven’t they ever heard of changing out the firing pin?

Or even (gosh forbid) keeping a few hundred unstamped ones around for “customizing” weapons?

Only the law abiding will be affected - which is likely the very reason this is under consideration. Darn that stoopid old second amendment thingy, anyway!!!


14 posted on 05/16/2008 5:40:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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According to FBI data, about 90% of the firearms used in crimes are stolen. Micro stamping won't do anything to stop gun crime unless you require firearms registration and address the problem of stolen weapons. The government would also have to do something about the 200 million firearms already in private hands.

The whole premise would be expensive because you not only have to modify current firearms and the manufacturers would have to buy expensive equipment, the government would have come up with a huge, searchable database. The only outcome would be that the government could determine who the last registered owner of the weapon was.

The technology is easily defeatable by a nail file or the use of a revolver, or just picking up your brass.

21 posted on 05/16/2008 6:00:18 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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Microstamping technology uses a laser to cut a pattern or code into the head of a firing pin or another internal surface. The method is similar to that used to engrave codes on computer chips.

Since when do we use lasers to engrave computer chips? I thought we were still using lithography.

The researchers did not have access to patented information allowing them to read the bar- or gear-codes

How could the knowledge to read something be patented? The system really is out of hand.

Codes engraved on the face of the firing pin could easily be removed with household tools, Beddow found

We could have told them that.

22 posted on 05/16/2008 6:05:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Above is a 45 colt 1911 firing pin. How many millions like that were made? It would not take one minute to replace a microstamped pin with a plain one. Any criminal would do that first thing.

24 posted on 05/16/2008 6:15:37 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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It raises the cost of the gun, and increases bureaucracy.

It's not likely to help solve many crimes any more than the requirement to keep a fired shell casing from handguns has.

It gives the impression that they are trying to fight crime, and expands government, and raises the price of firearms.

While the cost of making the microstamping parts isn't going to be too high in itself. The cost of tracking all those parts, who owns the guns, how they are transferred, and how to handle when a part is replaced, is going to end up adding a significant amount to the cost of the gun. The effect is especially noticeable on low priced guns.

What liberals fear most about guns is them being easily owned by the masses. That was why there was a big push against "Saturday night specials" based on the price they were sold at, not based on functionality.

They've gone after simple guns without lots of safety features. Not because those safety features significantly reduce the risks of accidents, but because they increase the cost.

They are systematically looking for ways to price guns out of the range of most Americans to afford them, and they are willing to do so slowly and incrementally.

30 posted on 05/16/2008 7:35:07 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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