Posted on 05/17/2008 11:47:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
George Bush seems to have really rattled Barack Obama and the Democratic Party with his speech yesterday in the Israeli Knesset. Rather than ignoring Bushs argument against appeasement, or adopting it, Barack Obama has declared that Bush intended his denunciation of appeasement as an attack on his campaign, even though Bush never even mentioned the nationality of modern appeasers in his speech. Obama lashed out in a speech today, calling Bushs rhetoric appalling: Barack Obama has called President Bushs comments on appeasement exactly the kind of appalling attack thats divided our country and alienates us from the rest of the world.
Obama criticized Republican rival John McCain and President Bush for dishonest and divisive attacks in hinting that the Democratic presidential candidate would appease terrorists.
Obama strongly responded Friday to the comments Bush made in Israel on Thursday and McCains subsequent words. Obama told a town hall meeting, Thats the kind of hypocrisy that weve been seeing in our foreign policy, the kind of fear-peddling, fear mongering that has prevented us from actually making us safer. Yesterday, Obama accused President Bush of a false political attack after Bush warned in Israel against appeasing terrorists early salvos in a general election campaign thats already blazing even as the Democratic front-runner tries to sew up his partys nomination.
But Bush never mentioned any specific person in his speech today, and didnt even specify that he was referring to Americans. Newsbusters has the full transcript, with this relevant part of the speech. Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.
We have an obligation to call this what it is the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.
Some people suggest if the United States would just break ties with Israel, all our problems in the Middle East would go away. This is a tired argument that buys into the propaganda of the enemies of peace, and America utterly rejects it. Israels population may be just over 7 million. But when you confront terror and evil, you are 307 million strong, because the United States of America stands with you.
No one in the US who runs for public office has suggested that the US break with Israel to appease terrorists. Obama certainly hasnt suggested that, and perhaps apart from the really lunatic fringes of both Left and Right, that notion doesnt get any oxygen at all here. Obviously, Bush wasnt referring to American politicians in this passage, but instead politicians in Europe and elsewhere who have either an animus towards Israel or appreciation for dhimmitude. Nothing and I mean nothing in this speech points to any candidate or the Democratic Party, unless they identify themselves as the reference.
Obama and his surrogates drew those connections themselves. Instead of acknowledging the historical truth of appeasements failures, they chose to argue with it. Obama could have taken the smart route and embraced it to explain how he understands the lessons of appeasement, which is why his talks with Iran would not result in it. Instead, he got volcanically defensive, which suggests that even Obama sees the parallels between his everythings-on-the-table approach and the Chamberlain diplomacy which resulted in dismantling Czechoslovakia.
And if Obama considers discussion of foreign policy divisive, then he should hie himself right back to Academia. Guess what, Senator? Presidential elections focus on foreign-policy principles, and if you cant defend yours, then you have no business running for office.
Update: Newt Gingrich calls this a study in guilt: (VIDEO)
Update II: Marc Ambinder reports that Bush meant to scold Jimmy Carter for his recent visit with Hamas, as Ed Gillespie explained to reporters in Saudi Arabia: We did not anticipate that it would be taken that way, because its kind of hard to take it that way when you look at the actual words. There was some anticipation that someone might say you know its an expression of rebuke to former President Carter for having met with Hamas. that was something that was anticipated but no one wrote about it or raised it.
And if one actually reads what Bush said, that interpretation looks a lot more likely than a supposed attack on Obama. Carter had just hugged Khaled Mashaal in Damascus and insisted that the US should open a dialogue with Hamas.
Barack Obama, meanwhile, continues to embarrass himself today at a presser on an attack that never was.
I agree with you but I also think the liberals consider the office of President of the United States also a component of affirmative action programs. Therefore, it is a woman’s “turn”, or a black’s “turn” as if it were a piece of candy to hand out to those in line. And Obama, I think the Greek term is “hubris” which, in Greek tragedies, usually lead to a spectacular fall orchestrated by the gods themselves.
BTTT
quick, someone tell the mods. I just "made it personal."
And .. I believe Obama’s camp (and maybe Obama himself) have wrongly assumed Bush is intimating from the comments that Obama is the “candidate” of the left.
Ego in the democrat’s camp knows no bounds.
And .. I believe Obamas camp (and maybe Obama himself) have wrongly assumed Bush is intimating from the comments that Obama is the candidate of the left.Nope. The Obomb is exactly right. It's basically a coming of age. That was a backhanded slap at him by W. He *is* the Dim's candidate now.Ego in the democrats camp knows no bounds.
Obama campaign declares foreign policy off-the-table. Hope. Change. Reverend and white granny thrown under the bus. Idiots.
'Got it'. . .(post #40). Hey; satire at four in the morning is a tough call/;^).
That is funny I had to go the link just to be sure it was satire.
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Sorry .. it was no such thing.
The statement from Bush was about Jimmy Carter - and it was meant to show how stupid a person he was for going and meeting with Syria and thinking something he said would change Syria.
The statement had nothing to do with Obama.
It was the Obama camp who believed it was about them .. but it was not Bush’s intent.
Obama-— This punk is going down. No respect for his elders not to mention his betters. He’s brash, he’s full of himself and McCain will beat him
He'll be surprised when McCain, an aging leader beats him like a drum.
Very good article by Ed Morrissey. Thanks for posting. GRRRREAT thread! Thanks to all contributors!
An OUTSTANDING article (on this topic) by Noel Sheppard... here...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/05/16/media-disgrace-america-israel-themselves
(thanks to granny for the link at WT thread)
Very good article by Ed Morrissey. Thanks for posting. GRRRREAT thread! Thanks to all contributors!
An OUTSTANDING article (on this topic) by Noel Sheppard... here...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/05/16/media-disgrace-america-israel-themselves
(thanks to granny for the link at WT thread)
Obama has had it tough from time to time. His response has always been to increase the slickness. He is a slick mama's boy. Raised by his mother and grandmother for the most part.
A Bill Clinton clone. Bill had no daddy either
Obama's white grandfather raised him somewhat but it is hard for me to get a fix on that. Because slickster Obama keeps his life with them hidden. Where's his white grandmother? He has ordered her not to talk to the press
Sorry .. it was no such thing.Nope. It was talking points. McCain said exactly the same thing, mentioning Obama by name a few days before that.The statement from Bush was about Jimmy Carter - and it was meant to show how stupid a person he was for going and meeting with Syria and thinking something he said would change Syria.
The statement had nothing to do with Obama.
It was the Obama camp who believed it was about them .. but it was not Bushs intent.
LOL! Great picture.
I still don’t agree with you .. and if you intend to prove your point .. you’ll have to QUOTE McCain’s statement (which you said occurred a few days before Bush’s).
However - while McCain may have mentioned Obama - BUSH NEVER DID - so where’s your collusion ..??
Obama: "Hey, over here! That's me he's talking about! I'm the appeasement guy."
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