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Gay Rights vs. Democracy
townhall.com ^ | 5/20 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 05/20/2008 9:12:13 AM PDT by porgygirl

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To: purpleraine

EXCEPT SODOMISTS ARE NOTORIOUS CHEATERS, HAVING MANY MORE LIFETIME PARTNERS THAN ANY OTHER GROUP. YOU NEED TO DO SOME READING OF FACTS AND EVIDENCE CONCERNING MSM.


61 posted on 05/23/2008 12:46:07 PM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: porgygirl
Exactly why they should get married and settle down. And I think it's sodomITES, not sodomISTS.

When you have these ongoing dialogues, do you usually quit replying first or do you wait for the other person to get bored and stop?

62 posted on 05/23/2008 1:13:59 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
I GUESS YOU WOULD KNOW THE CORRECT SPELLING, NOW ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ THE CDC REPORTS ON THEM, THEY ARE CALLED MSM.AND THEY ARE THE LEADING CAUSE OF THE SPREAD OF STD’s they are the most promiscuous, and they have even created a cancer[anal cancer] that they pass around to each other, and more of them die from it than women of cervical cancer.they pass more gonorrhea,more syphilis and more HIV, than any other group of humans including needle users.go ahead and support them, i can think of only one reason why you would.
63 posted on 05/24/2008 6:29:41 PM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: porgygirl

Yes, I’m correct on the spelling, on freedom, and on the value of a monogamous relationship to the health of society. It is very confusing to see someone so immersed in her concern for public health oppose people being married.


64 posted on 05/24/2008 6:58:04 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

FIRST I AM NOT A HER[porgygirl is the name of my boat,and i use it as my handle on the marine band and here]yes i am concerned about health and the biggest threat in the U.S.is MSM,and there is no such thing as a faithful faggot,you are so devoid of the facts concerning MSM,as to be plainly duped by the kool-aid served to you by their propagandists, i could fill this post with links to the facts, but you should find them yourself, to protect yourself.marriage is a blessing for one man and one woman,end of story!


65 posted on 05/25/2008 12:22:20 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: purpleraine
MSM don't get sarcosi’s, or gonorrhea of the throat from a toilet seat.i think marriage is a great move for people in love but not the abomination of two people of the same sex.guilty of spreading the deadly aids virus across the globe.mixing their strains, so that medical help cannot keep up,accosting boys in public toilets,infecting women, so they infect their infants, no, these selfish men without self control should not be married so they can raise boys in their image.because certainly the next step will be a judge giving custody to pederasts.
66 posted on 05/25/2008 12:49:10 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: puroresu
They don't all have to be in the Constitution but they have to have some historical basis in reality. This is why there is no right to inject heroin or to engage in prostitution. These are things that have no historical basis as rights under the common law or in any historically developed constitutional system. Ditto for polygamy, perverted "marriage", and so forth. Ditto for abortion.

It's not that I have no right to engage in prostitution or polygamy, it's that you have no right to stop me. Liberty rests on the idea of negative rights.

67 posted on 05/25/2008 2:24:24 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: purpleraine
A recent study of Massachusetts teenagers, published in the American Journal of Public Health (Anne H. Faulkner and Kevin Cranston, “Correlates of Same-Sex Sexual Behavior in a Random Sample of Massachusetts High School Students,” February 1998, p. 264) discovered that self-identified gays were:

nine times more likely to have reported using alcohol on a daily basis;
six times more likely to report having recently used cocaine than their heterosexual counterparts;
nineteen times more likely to report having used cocaine on ten or more occasions per month;
five times more likely to report having used other illegal drugs, including cocaine, twenty or more times in their lives;
nearly seven times more likely to report ever having injected an illegal drug;
fifty percent more likely than their heterosexual counterparts to have considered committing suicide.
The average homosexual of any age is three times more suicidal than the heterosexual (Cameron, Play fair, Wellum, The Homosexual Lifespan, Family Research Institute, Feb 14, 1992).

Life expectancy of homosexual men and women without AIDS is about 33 years shorter than that of the heterosexual (Cameron, Playfair, Wellum, The Homosexual Lifespan, Family Research Institute, Feb 14, 1992). Surprisingly, AIDS has only a modest effect on the average life expectancy of a homosexual male. The average age of men dying from AIDS is 39. The average age of homosexuals dying from all other causes is even more revealing: 41. Only one percent die of old age. In study after study, less than three percent of all homosexuals surveyed are over the age of 55.

Why is homosexuality such a dangerous lifestyle? Part of the reason is the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals. Homosexualities (1978, page 308) an official publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten percent of male homosexuals could be termed as “relatively monogamous” or “relatively less promiscuous” (defined as 10 or fewer lifetime partners). Additional findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners. Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more than half of their sexual partners were strangers.

68 posted on 05/25/2008 8:08:59 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: purpleraine
Even apart from what the Bible says, homosexuality must be termed extremely unhealthy.

Sexually transmitted diseases are without a doubt the most serious consequence of homosexual behavior. Practicing homosexuals as a group account for an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of cases of sexually transmitted diseases, including gonorrhea, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and syphilis (Mireya Navarro, “Federal Officials See Sharp Rise of Hepatitis Among Gay Men,” The New York Times, March 6, 1992). According to the American Medical Association, homosexual youth are twenty-three times more likely to contract sexually transmitted diseases than heterosexuals (American Adolescents: How Healthy Are They?, American Medical Association, 1990, p.31).

Lesbians are 19 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had syphilis, twice as likely to suffer from genital warts, and four times as likely to have scabies (New England Journal of Medicine 317:973,1987).

69 posted on 05/25/2008 8:22:33 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: purpleraine
they live together and cheat notoriously, what makes you think suddenly they will become monogamous?
70 posted on 05/25/2008 8:25:29 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: purpleraine

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/jun/06063003.html the french get it right!protect the children from the perverts


71 posted on 05/25/2008 8:47:02 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: purpleraine

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/jun/06063003.html the french get it right!protect the children from the perverts


72 posted on 05/25/2008 8:47:10 AM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: porgygirl

You need to see someone and get help about your obsession.


73 posted on 05/25/2008 9:27:14 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

is that the best you can do?

80% Eighty percent of adolescents in psychiatric hospitals come from fatherless homes.

70% Seventy percent of the kids now incarcerated in juvenile corrections facilities grew up in a single-parent environment

75% Three out of four teen suicides occur in single-parent families

164% Compared to girls raised in homes where both parents are present,
the daughters of single parents are 164-percent more likely to become pregnant before marriage

53% Compared to girls raised in homes where both parents are present, 53 percent more likely to marry as teenagers

92% Compared to girls raised in homes where both parents are present, 92 percent more likely to dissolve their own marriages

900% The absence of a biological father increases by 900 percent a daughter’s vulnerability to rape and sexual abuse (often these assaults are committed by stepfathers or the boyfriends of custodial mothers).

< Children whose fathers are absent consistently score lower than the norm in reading and math tests.

> Children who live apart from their fathers experience more accidents and a higher rate of chronic asthma, headaches, and speech defects.

Facts compiled by the Department of Justice:

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes

90% of all homeless and runaway youths are from fatherless homes.

85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders are from fatherless homes.

71% of high school dropouts are from fatherless homes.

70% of youths in State institutions are from fatherless homes.

75% of adolescent patients in substance abuse centers are from fatherless homes.

85% of rapists motivated by displaced anger are from fatherless homes.

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Fatherless America (David Blankenhorn) states:
“Fatherlessness is the most destructive trend of our generation.”

U.S. Vice President Al Gore declared in a 1997 speech:
“absent fathers are behind most social woes.”

FBI statistics:
“a missing father is a more reliable predictor of criminal activity than race, environment, or poverty.”

National Center for Health Statistics (1995):
200% A child living with a divorced mother is almost twice as likely as a children living with both parents to repeat a grade of school, contract anemia, and suffer from intestinal distress, bed-wetting, and stuttering.


From The Father Connection by Josh McDowell. Broadman & Hoffman, 1996. ISBN 0-8054-6094-2
Johns Hopkins University study:
60% ”young white, teenage girls living in fatherless homes... were 60 percent more likely to have premarital intercourse than those living in two-parent homes.”

Dr. Loren Moshen, of the National Institute of Mental Health, analyzed U.S. census figures:
The absence of a father is a stronger factor than poverty in contributing to juvenile delinquency.

A group of Yale behavioral scientists studied delinquency in forty-eight cultures around the world:
Crime rates were highest among adults who as children had been raised solely by women.

Dr. Martin Deutsch:
A father’s presence and conversation, especially at dinner time, stimulates a child to perform better at school.

Father: the Figure and the Force (Christopher Anderson):
A study of 7000 women working in topless bars and strip clubs: “Most of these women conceded that they were probably looking for the male attention that they had never gotten during their childhood.”

White House Paper (October 25, 1984): 7-8 “Changes in the American Family” by Armand Nicholi Jr.:
“An emotionally or physically absent father contributes to a child’s (1) low motivation for achievement; (2) inability to defer immediate gratification for later rewards; (3) low self-esteem; and (4) susceptibility to group influence and to juvenile delinquency.”

43% of US children live without their father.
[U.S. Department of Census.]


74 posted on 05/25/2008 5:56:21 PM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: porgygirl
The arrogance of your post is overwhelming. I worked for the Calif Youth Authority for 28 years, please don't tell me characteristics of troubled youths and their health problems.

The best I CAN do is to tell you that you have some kind of personality disorder, probably obsessive personality. I won't say it again because it just seems to trigger you to repeat the behavior.

Best wishes! Maybe someone here who actually cares about you, will also tell you the truth. Now respond again in like fashion and provide even more evidence I am correct.

75 posted on 05/25/2008 8:52:32 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

do you think your experience is more valid than the CDC or the other prominent health agencies that have reported on this subject? no doubt you do, very typical of your lot.you need to “move on”


76 posted on 05/26/2008 3:11:27 PM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: purpleraine

i think it is monogamy, and that is not a trait of your beloved MSM, 1000 lifetime partners, think of it


77 posted on 05/26/2008 3:14:30 PM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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To: puroresu
Yes, but no one here is asserting that rights come from the state. Just that the idea that if you want to do something you have a “right” to do is has no historical basis whatsoever and the Founders would have been shocked by such a notion.

No, no, no. You've posted that before, but it isn't getting any more true.

Our nation was founded on the notion that rights did not need historical precedent. Had the Founders believed as you suggest, they could never have broken away from the crown.

They did believe that you had a right to live your life in any way you pleased, with very specific exceptions that could be regulated by the state. Those exceptions are listed in the Constitution, and the evidence that anything at all not regulated therein is a right you and I enjoy is found in the clear language of the Ninth Amendment.

78 posted on 05/28/2008 12:34:55 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

I appreciate your willingness to discuss things honorably. I don’t think we’re all that far apart. I just don’t think the 9th Amendment is as wide open as you perhaps do. It appears to largely be a rule of construction for the federal courts, to keep them from injecting themselves into areas where the Constitution was silent. It wasn’t intended to mean, for example, that there exists a right to commit sodomy which could be enforced by the courts in defiance of state legislation.

The problem with allowing the courts to weigh in on such subjects is that the judges simply pick and choose which unenumerated rights they wish to protect, based on their own personal preferences.

For example, did women have a right to vote under the 9th Amendment? It would seem silly to assert that they did, given the fact that the authors of the 9th didn’t even consider the issue worthy of debate, and the states which ratified it all excluded women from the vote. Yet, under your reading of the amendment, what was to stop judges from announcing that women had a natural right to vote that was inherent simply by virtue of women’s existence? What was to stop judges from mowing down the election laws of every state in the union and enfranchising women by judicial fiat?


79 posted on 05/28/2008 4:53:11 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: purpleraine

i hope you and your husband Mary live well in San Diego, and watch out for those scabies.


80 posted on 05/28/2008 8:50:17 PM PDT by porgygirl (DIESEL BOATS FOREVER,)
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