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Did Humans Colonize The World By Boat
Discover Magazine ^ | 5-20-2008 | Heather Pringle

Posted on 05/20/2008 6:57:41 PM PDT by blam

Did Humans Colonize the World by Boat?

Research suggests our ancestors traveled the oceans 70,000 years ago.

by Heather Pringle

Jon Erlandson shakes out what appears to be a miniature evergreen from a clear ziplock bag and holds it out for me to examine. As one of the world’s leading authorities on ancient seafaring, he has devoted much of his career to hunting down hard evidence of ancient human migrations, searching for something most archaeologists long thought a figment: Ice Age mariners. On this drizzly late-fall afternoon in a lab at the University of Oregon in Eugene, the 53-year-old Erlandson looks as pleased as the father of a newborn—and perhaps just as anxious —as he shows me one of his latest prize finds.

The little “tree” in my hand is a dart head fashioned from creamy-brown chert and bristling with tiny barbs designed to lodge in the flesh of marine prey. Erlandson recently collected dozens of these little stemmed points from San Miguel Island, a scrap of land 27 miles off the coast of California. Radiocarbon dating of marine shells and burned twigs at the site shows that humans first landed on San Miguel at least 12,000 years ago, and the dart head in my hand holds clues to the ancestry of those seafarers. Archaeologists have recovered similar items scattered along the rim of the North Pacific, and some have even been found in coastal Peru and Chile. The oldest appeared 15,600 years ago in coastal Japan. To Erlandson, these miniature trees look like a trail left by mariners who voyaged along the stormy northern coasts of the Pacific Ocean from Japan to the Americas during the last Ice Age. “We haven’t published the evidence for this hypothesis yet, and I’m kind of nervous about it,” he says.

(Excerpt) Read more at discovermagazine.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boat; colonize; godsgravesglyphs; humans; world

1 posted on 05/20/2008 6:57:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

A repeat, I believe.

2 posted on 05/20/2008 6:58:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Ice Age?

Pure speculation by denialists.

3 posted on 05/20/2008 7:00:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Paladin2
"Pure speculation by denialists. "

There are people who don't believe there was an Ice Age?

4 posted on 05/20/2008 7:02:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Good article! Thanks.


5 posted on 05/20/2008 7:07:18 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam

“There are people who don’t believe there was an Ice Age?”At least Al Gore, I’m guessing.


6 posted on 05/20/2008 7:11:34 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: blam
Our success as a species clearly owes much to those that are not content to look at horizons, but to go beyond them.Not a single one of us would be here today without those brave souls. To think of setting out into such total unknowns is almost alien to many today.
7 posted on 05/20/2008 7:11:47 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Coyoteman

I don’t get it, it’s already been proven that the Indians got here when Tibetan tribesmen crossed the Bering Straight. Why does this surprise anyone. They migrated South through Canada all the way to South America...Now that didn’t take just a few short years, there had to be colonies, break offs, and further migration which must have taken at least 50,000 yrs or more to develop as many tribes and sub tribes as there are, and have been discovered including the various languages. This isn’t news to me...I learned that in college many years ago.
AND if one tribe could take a boat and cross the Bering Straight, it would make sense many could. Christopher Columbus kept a diary, so he got the nod. I doubt if any of the tribes thought keeping a diary of the trip significant...lol


8 posted on 05/20/2008 7:14:47 PM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: blam

What ended the last Ice Age 25,000 years ago? Neanderthal fires??????


9 posted on 05/20/2008 7:16:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Paladin2

Maybe global warming broke off a chunk of Ice and they floated down along the coast..(sarc)


10 posted on 05/20/2008 7:16:56 PM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: blam
I have this book 1421 that I have not read yet, but will likely finish in the next couple of weeks.
 
I dunno if it will be a good book or not, but the subject matter has long intrigued me.
 
The Chinese under the Ming Dynasty were sailing the world, and might have "discovered" America decades before Columbus was even born.
 
Reading is such difficult work.

11 posted on 05/20/2008 7:18:00 PM PDT by Radix (The Army Times will not let me post "their images" of OUR Troops on Free Republic)
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To: Kackikat
I don’t get it, it’s already been proven that the Indians got here when Tibetan tribesmen crossed the Bering Straight. Why does this surprise anyone. They migrated South through Canada all the way to South America...

The interesting part of these new discoveries is that in addition to the overland migration there was an early coastal migration, which may have moved from North to South America relatively quickly. And, it resulted in some settlement along the coastal strips significantly earlier than the land migration did.

This idea has been around since the 1960s (Harrison) and 1970s (Fladmark), but only recently has there been good evidence. Erlandson (the primary subject of the article) has been at the forefront of gathering that evidence.

12 posted on 05/20/2008 7:21:15 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Kackikat
Al Goodyear And The Secrets Of Ancient Americans

"USC Professor Discovers 50,000 Year-Old (Human) Artifacts in S.C.

13 posted on 05/20/2008 7:27:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kackikat

14 posted on 05/20/2008 7:29:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: SkyDancer

“What ended the last Ice Age 25,000 years ago? Neanderthal fires??????’

Nope — the first Neanderthal Nuclear Exchange, waged between what is now Europe and Africa over hunting rights... ;)


15 posted on 05/20/2008 7:30:45 PM PDT by Levante
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To: Coyoteman

Wasn’t there some evidence awhile back that early polynesians settled South America?


16 posted on 05/20/2008 7:31:11 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: blam
I saw this in "Waterworld"
17 posted on 05/20/2008 7:31:28 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Radix
"I have this book 1421 that I have not read yet, but will likely finish in the next couple of weeks."

Posted on FR six years ago.

Explorer From China Who 'Beat Columbus To America'

18 posted on 05/20/2008 7:33:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: Levante

How did I miss that? :)

Load the trebuchet!!!

We’ll show ‘em ....


19 posted on 05/20/2008 7:36:24 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: SkyDancer
"What ended the last Ice Age 25,000 years ago? Neanderthal fires??????"

Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (Carolina Bays)

Comet May Have Doomed Mammoths

20 posted on 05/20/2008 7:38:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: aft_lizard
Wasn’t there some evidence awhile back that early polynesians settled South America?

There have been several variations on that over the years.

--There was oriental pottery unearthed in Equador a number of decades ago.

--One of Thor Heyerdahl's early ideas involved Hawaiians or other Pacific Islanders reaching British Columbia.

--Just recently comes the idea that the Chumash canoe (along the Santa Barbara channel) originated in the Polynesian area. Here is a link for this idea.

21 posted on 05/20/2008 7:40:14 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: aft_lizard
"Wasn’t there some evidence awhile back that early polynesians settled South America?"

'First Americans Were Australian'

22 posted on 05/20/2008 7:40:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Good article Blam.

Try this one http://www.foteviken.se/sewnboat/part1/part1.htm

Just to recall, this piece was published back when they still thought nautical terms and technology had been passed on from German speaking people to the Sa'ami.

We now know it was the other way around with even some grammatical practices in the Sa'ami languages having found themselves firmly lodged in the German languages.

These "sewn boats" are actually plank boats curved against a sort of proto-frame, and tied in place through holes drilled at regular intervals.

The discovery sites of the most ancient extant boats occur in upland sites throughout Scandinavia. Total wrecks are found in the estuaries. The implication is that the boats were built in the mountains, used, sold down river, and finally put to work in the Actic Ocean, a very unforgiving environment.

The fundamental hullshape and ribbing designs are translated to the early Indo-Europeans (aka Vikings) at some period of time. The boats were scaled up and turned into the typical seagoing ships used by the Vikings.

This piece gives a good idea of what might well have been an Ice Age boat design. The writer, though, seems to think this design was the step up from dugouts ~ even though there were no trees large enough to be "dug out" in the Sapmai!

One important point for archaeologists should be that improved boat designs in Scandinavia came about first at an early age INLAND for use on wild glacier rivers and streams. Those boats were then modified for use in the far gentler ocean.

23 posted on 05/20/2008 7:45:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Coyoteman

“sewn-plank boats” were a world wide design. The question is where were they first developed.


24 posted on 05/20/2008 7:49:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Excellent addition, thanks.

Sewn boats of the North: A preliminary catalogue with introductory comments.

Boats being sewn in the inner Finnish area, from a woodcut in Olaus Magnus (1539, 1555)

25 posted on 05/20/2008 7:52:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kackikat
.Now that didn’t take just a few short years, there had to be colonies, break offs, and further migration which must have taken at least 50,000 yrs or more to develop as many tribes and sub tribes as there are, and have been discovered including the various languages...

AND if one tribe could take a boat and cross the Bering Straight, it would make sense many could.

As I understand it, the prevailing theory is that the Bering Straight crossing was by land, and around 12,000- 13,000 BC. The problems for researchers right now is reconciling the fact that it appears the glaciers prevented most further south and eastward movement until 11,000 to 10,000 BC or so, with other findings ndicating that humans were present in South America in 12,500. I've read some speculate that the early arrivals could have traveled south via raft or canoe, but up to now this has been viewed skeptically.

26 posted on 05/20/2008 7:56:06 PM PDT by MichiganMan (So you bought that big vehicle and now want to whine about how much it costs to fill it? Seriously?)
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To: blam

"Bring me that horizon!"

-Capt. Jack Sparrow, speaking for all sailors of every age.

27 posted on 05/20/2008 7:56:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: MichiganMan
"I've read some speculate that the early arrivals could have traveled south via raft or canoe, but up to now this has been viewed skeptically."

No more. The boat/raft theory/idea seems to have become quite popular in the last few years.

28 posted on 05/20/2008 7:59:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: MichiganMan

Argh, now I did it. Straight=Strait


29 posted on 05/20/2008 8:00:06 PM PDT by MichiganMan (So you bought that big vehicle and now want to whine about how much it costs to fill it? Seriously?)
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To: blam
"Posted on FR six years ago."

Slow and steady I am.

I'll get there eventually to the place where the Masters roam.

30 posted on 05/20/2008 8:53:35 PM PDT by Radix (The Army Times will not let me post "their images" of OUR Troops on Free Republic)
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To: SkyDancer

31 posted on 05/20/2008 9:57:51 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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32 posted on 05/20/2008 10:19:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: blam

This is interesting. This puts humans in the techology arena early in our evolution. It also may explain our curious need for lots of fresh water, relative to other critters, since on coasts, this would be less of a selective factor.

No wonder the neanders couldn’t keep up. Pity, since they would be great for selling auto insurance today.


33 posted on 05/20/2008 10:32:40 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: blam

He ought to be nervous. There are entrenched academics whose careers are cemented in the theory that the earliest humans came overland no ealier than 12,ooo years ago. And they like to destroy the careers of those who challenge them.


34 posted on 05/20/2008 10:48:42 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Our success as a species clearly owes much to those that are not content to look at horizons, but to go beyond them.Not a single one of us would be here today without those brave souls. To think of setting out into such total unknowns is almost alien to many today.

Roger that. When I think of what it took for the Vikings to set to sea... in tiny "ships" that were mere storm-bait without even the slightest of conveniences... I cannot imagine my own generation doing something of the kind.

And yet they travelled and traded with the world.

35 posted on 05/21/2008 12:24:27 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

36 posted on 05/21/2008 7:08:49 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Why go by boat when you can FLY?


37 posted on 05/21/2008 7:30:48 AM PDT by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: blam

As our technology and expanding scopes of our civilization allow us to explore and expand the edges of archeological inquiry, we’ll discover more and more instances where human kind rose above the “noble savagery” that we equate with ancient times and achieved more than we give them credit for.

Our pre-formed ideas about the primitive man don’t give enough credit to the intelligence and curiosity that is inherent in our species. I give more credit to our current civilizations achievements to the relative stability of our climate over the last 6 thousand years than to any improvements in our overall intelligence. And we aren’t any less likely to become the next civilized victim of climate change at the rate we’re going... Carbon credits aren’t going to hold back the seas if the seas should rise, or if the climate changes in the other direction, carbon credits aren’t going to warm our homes in the ultra-long winters or feed our children.


38 posted on 05/21/2008 3:13:23 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Coyoteman

Well I went to college after 1970’s but that wasn’t the way it was taught, and my college was in top ten at the time.
However they got here is what it is, and not something I would argue about..just interesting that it sounded like some NEW discovery and I did not equate it as anything new.


39 posted on 05/21/2008 7:37:43 PM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Kackikat
Well I went to college after 1970’s but that wasn’t the way it was taught, and my college was in top ten at the time.

The idea was not taught until more recently. Harrison was a student at UCLA in the '60s, and had the idea in his dissertation. There was no evidence to go anywhere with it. Fladmark was writing from British Columbia, and again there was no data to support the idea for a while.

In the '90s the idea began to be supported from a number of places, including the increasingly old dates in both North and South America, and the reduction in the age of the ice free corridor. Pretty soon those two events crossed, and the early coastal migration had to be taken seriously.

40 posted on 05/21/2008 8:40:28 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam

Folks got to Australia 60,000 years ago, why not here too.


41 posted on 05/21/2008 10:57:41 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Thoughts, feelings, and emotions are NOT facts!)
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To: blam

Well of course they did, at least during various periods of pre-history.


42 posted on 05/21/2008 11:34:45 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
"Folks got to Australia 60,000 years ago, why not here too."

They may have:

Calico: A 200,000-year Old Site In The Americas?

43 posted on 05/22/2008 6:42:46 AM PDT by blam
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To: Coyoteman

The concept makes more sense than some of the southern migration does, and I will check it out further...in fact, coastal migration is how Spain, France and other countries first came here, after of course some previous tribes.


44 posted on 05/22/2008 12:16:48 PM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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Did Humans Colonize the World by Boat?
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45 posted on 05/28/2008 8:30:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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