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Out of a job and out of luck at 54
CNNMoney ^ | 5/21/2008 | Tami Luhby

Posted on 05/22/2008 10:14:54 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Too young to retire, too old to get a new job. That's how many older workers are feeling these days.

While it's not easy to land a job in this weak economy, older workers are in a particularly tough spot. Corporate downsizings are hitting this group hard, with many companies looking to shed the higher-paid positions these employees often occupy. Even worse, older job seekers are discovering the search is even rougher as many employers shy away from hiring those closer to retirement than to the start of their careers.

The downsizings come at a bad time for older workers. Not only can't they afford to retire, but many were counting on beefing up their 401(k) accounts in the years before they exit the labor force. Compounding the problem is the slumping stock market, which has left them with a deflated 401(k) cushion to draw on while looking for a new post.

"There are tons of folks out there who cannot afford to live once they've faced that involuntary layoff," said Renee Ward, founder of Seniors4Hire.org, an online community for older workers and companies looking to hire them. "And it takes them a little longer to find a suitable position."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy
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Quite apart from the global labor arbitrage of moving jobs offshore, a strong age/salary/benefits arbitrage has developed over the last twenty years. Experience is deemed to be far less important than it used to be in a business environment where technology renders business processes obsolete every few years (or less). Hiring cheap, eager 25-35 year olds with lesser salary expectations and lower benefit costs is universally thought to be the smart play - if one must hire Americans at all...
1 posted on 05/22/2008 10:20:03 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Expect more and more of these stories as November approaches.
2 posted on 05/22/2008 10:23:07 AM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: Perdogg

My favorites are the “running out of food” ones.


3 posted on 05/22/2008 10:25:12 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

1) NOT a “weak” economy!
2)Move...find a job somewhere else ....My company LIKES older workers and hires them first.


4 posted on 05/22/2008 10:25:14 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: Mr. Jeeves

People are stupid. You can’t rely on someone else to take care of you. You’ve got to always look out and plan ahead and do your best to take care of yourself. Don’t rely on anyone—except YOURSELF!


5 posted on 05/22/2008 10:26:07 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: HappyinAZ

I have not seen a company in a long time that will hire experience over cheap. They may get a subcontractor that way, but not a full time employee.


6 posted on 05/22/2008 10:27:25 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Perdogg
Expect more and more of these stories as November approaches.

Because more and more jobs are going overseas and more and more Americans are being tossed out of work as a result.

7 posted on 05/22/2008 10:27:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Chuck Dunn knows he can't afford to retire. The 56-year-old has had no choice but to liquidate his retirement account after losing his product development job with a high-end electronics manufacturer in October. Now he's considering selling his house before he becomes a foreclosure statistic.

There is SO MUCH MORE to this story. I wish reporters would do their jobs.

He is 56 and has been working in the high tech field for, what, 30 years and has ZERO savings? His house is going into foreclosure???? WTF? Did you HELOC it to death and live way above your means??? Was your house an ATM for granite countertops, a Lexus and trips to Europe? It used to be at age 56 you had your house paid off with a 30 year mortgage.

8 posted on 05/22/2008 10:28:01 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Out of a job and out of luck at 54

Three words: Health care costs.

No one can afford to pay $20,000+ per year in health care for these people.

And it's only going to get worse as the great bubble of Caucasian baby boomers starts moving into retirement circa 2020.

At that point, the USA will simply collapse like a deck of cards because of all the demographic dead weight in this country.

9 posted on 05/22/2008 10:28:38 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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>> many were counting on beefing up their 401(k) accounts in the years before they exit the labor force

... another way of saying they weren’t diligent about saving for retirement, putting it off until... when? Hint: putting saving for retirement off until after the layoff is a REALLY BAD idea.

What about the articles I have read over the past year or two that discuss the labor shortage to come (due to simple demographics)? Not just in the US, but Europe, China, Japan... doesn’t square with this article.

It may be true that fifty-somethings who wedged themselves into “comfortable” jobs and forgot to keep up with skills and so forth won’t be able to get the same high-paying high-benefits job they once had. But IMO there’s plenty of work to go around.

DISCLOSURE: I’m fifty-something and, technically, out of a job (I’m trying to get a startup off the ground). My salary is essentially zero right now; my benefits are whatever I buy myself (you bet your bippy I’ve got health insurance). It’s risky, yes, but I have planned for it.


10 posted on 05/22/2008 10:31:28 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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I have a relative that works for Merck and has been there quite a few years. She’s one of the 1,500 or so that are getting their pink slips-she is getting let go today in fact. They are getting rid of a lot of the people that have been there the longest and make the most money.


11 posted on 05/22/2008 10:32:18 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: DonaldC

>> They may get a subcontractor that way, but not a full time employee.

So... bend with the times! Work as a contractor.


12 posted on 05/22/2008 10:33:52 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
While it's not easy to land a job in this weak economy

Here we go. Election year, and suddenly, it's 1930 and there are soup lines on every corner.
13 posted on 05/22/2008 10:35:55 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Perdogg

Yep. It’s election time - pessimist season.


14 posted on 05/22/2008 10:36:59 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Huck

Before you go down that road.....take a look at how much disability costs for a 20-25 year old and then see how much it costs for someone over 40. Companies don’t want to pay the extra costs. It may cost them $1000.00 a year for the younger person and $10,000-$20,000 a year for the older person. That is why the age discrimination laws that don’t work for insurance companies. Now look at companies that have large numbers of employees over 40. If you have over, say, 500 employees over 40 figure out how much a company can save by laying them off. I come up with $5 million in savings.


15 posted on 05/22/2008 10:38:43 AM PDT by RC2
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To: arderkrag
Here we go. Election year, and suddenly, it's 1930 and there are soup lines on every corner.

And in New Orleans, Katrina is still blowing down the levees.

16 posted on 05/22/2008 10:39:19 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HappyinAZ

“My company LIKES older workers and hires them first.”

Us too! Article is total bull


17 posted on 05/22/2008 10:43:50 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: HIDEK6

I think vyou could add: “Bush and Cheney are still blowing UP the levees!”.


18 posted on 05/22/2008 10:44:24 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Well, companies making people “bend with the times” is what is going to usher in all kinds of socialism. The way things are heading is going to get bad, I’m afraid.


19 posted on 05/22/2008 10:45:04 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Jobs are for young people. By the time you are 54 you should be ready to run your own small business. I have worked for myself since I was 26. I didn’t make much money for quite a while, but things worked out eventually.


20 posted on 05/22/2008 10:45:46 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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