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Mexican homicides jump 47 pct.; 1,378 die in '08
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | May 23, 2008 | E. EDUARDO CASTILLO

Posted on 05/23/2008 7:56:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

MEXICO CITY — Homicides related to organized crime jumped 47 percent in 2008, Mexico's attorney general said Friday in a rare confirmation of how bad violence has become.

Police later made two gruesome discoveries in northern Mexico. Five bodies — two of them decapitated — were found wrapped in blankets in a city on the border with Texas, along with two heads in sacks. In another state, police found four severed heads in ice chests along a highway.

Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora told Radio Formula that 1,378 people have been killed so far this year, compared with 940 in the same period last year.

The statistic reflected what many in Mexico already knew: Drug-related killings have soared in recent months.

But the details were the first official snapshot on the rise in killings. The Mexican government has been reluctant to release homicide statistics, leaving the public to rely on informal tallies by the news media.

Medina Mora broke that silence, saying 4,152 people have been killed since President Felipe Calderon took office in December 2006 and declared war on drug cartels that controlled entire regions of Mexico. About 450 of those were police, soldiers, prosecutors or investigators.

Medina Mora said many of the recent killings have been concentrated along the U.S. border, while homicides in the central part of the nation have subsided.

The government says the violence reflects drug gangs' desperation amid the nationwide crackdown, carried out by more than 20,000 soldiers and federal police.

"Evidently when they are cornered and weakened, they have to respond with violence," Medina Mora said.

Analysts say recent arrests have created a power vacuum and gangs are battling for valuable drug routes and territory.

One of the hardest-hit cities is Ciudad Juarez, where the five wrapped bodies were found on a street corner. A message found with the corpses read "this is what happens to traitors who align themselves with Chapo Guzman," a reference to reputed Sinaloa drug cartel chief Joaquin Guzman.

A recent e-mail warning of a weekend bloodbath has alarmed many residents of the city across from El Paso, Texas.

Nobody seems to know who wrote the e-mail, which says gunmen will fire at malls, restaurants and other public places in "killings all over the city." But many people have forwarded it to friends.

Juarez Police Chief Roberto Orduna said the threats must be taken seriously and issued a news release Thursday assuring residents that police would be more vigilant.

More than 200 people have been killed so far this year in Juarez.

Police found the four severed heads in ice chests outside a highway convenience store in the northern state of Durango, along with unspecified threatening messages, the state government said. The bodies were not found, and the victims were not identified.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mexico; terrorism; wod

1 posted on 05/23/2008 7:56:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

The liberals think it’s all Rush’s fault. Liberals are doo pid.


2 posted on 05/23/2008 8:02:28 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: SwinneySwitch
I've read elsewhere on FR that the cartels are telling soldiers "join us or die".
3 posted on 05/23/2008 8:06:13 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: SwinneySwitch

Hummmmmmmm? And does not Mexico have laws against citizens owning guns?


4 posted on 05/23/2008 8:06:36 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: DeLaVerdad; YourAdHere; Be_Politically_Erect; Ultimatum; Sterco; Paige; Tennessee_Bob; cspackler; ..

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


5 posted on 05/23/2008 8:13:55 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.


6 posted on 05/23/2008 8:27:52 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Can't be. Mexico has gun control </sarc>
7 posted on 05/23/2008 8:48:42 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I feel so much better knowing McCAmnesty, Clinton and Obama all support amnesty for illegal aliens.
8 posted on 05/23/2008 8:50:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I cant tell if this is murders from the drug war, or total murders or what...seems low to me for the whole country of Mexico.


9 posted on 05/23/2008 10:03:02 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

They told Mexican cops ‘join us or die’.

A major facet of this violence explosion is that until a few years ago, the civilian drug runners/expeditors were paid in cash for their services. Now they’re paid in drugs, which they can sell or do. Either way, it’s moved the trade to a much more horrific level.


10 posted on 05/23/2008 10:10:27 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: BurbankKarl

{”I cant tell if this is murders from the drug war, or total murders or what...seems low to me for the whole country of Mexico.”

Yes, it’s not very clear on what the article is referring to, is it?

There were over 17,000 murders in the United States in 2006. Now, our population is about 3 times larger than Mexico’s. Adjusted for that, it would be the equivlanet of having only 3,000 murders per year in the US, or about 5.5 times per year than what we have here.

Sounds a bit suspect to me, particularly given the proclivity to violence you see in a lot of Mexican populations here.


11 posted on 05/24/2008 12:51:35 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald; All
“the cartels are telling soldiers “join us or die”

And the police.

Sounds familiar doesn't it? (AQ, Taliban, Hamas, Hezbolla, etc)

12 posted on 05/24/2008 8:35:28 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Police found the four severed heads in ice chests outside a highway convenience store

Yipes! I better start checkin' on my law-abiding peeps in Mexico. Seems that things are getting scary.

And here I'd thought that the 21% increase in murders was bad in Houston the year after the move-in of the Katrina evacuees (criminals with records abolished in flooded waters and a "gimmee,gimmee.gimmee or I'll take it.take it.take it attitude).

13 posted on 05/24/2008 9:28:32 AM PDT by DeLaVerdad
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To: BurbankKarl; CaspersGh0sts

Drug-related killings in 2008.


14 posted on 05/24/2008 8:55:46 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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