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How enemies became friends in this unique lesson of Vietnam
USA Today | 5/23/08 | Hal Moore

Posted on 05/24/2008 6:29:42 AM PDT by Dawnsblood

Hal Moore is a real American Hero. Unfortunately I can not post it here. Please check USA Today's editorial section for the story.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: halmoore; heroes; movie; vietnam

1 posted on 05/24/2008 6:29:43 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

No link?


2 posted on 05/24/2008 6:35:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
It is here. I just did not want to get FR in trouble.
3 posted on 05/24/2008 6:38:51 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: sionnsar

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/05/how-enemies-bec.html#more


4 posted on 05/24/2008 6:43:13 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: Dawnsblood
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080523/opmemday23bank.art.htm
 
Although we did not understand each other's language, we quickly saw that the soul requires no interpreter.
 
Awesome.
 
Happy Memorial Day.
 

5 posted on 05/24/2008 6:47:41 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Love your neighbor. Buy American.)
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To: Dawnsblood

It is also on the last page of this weeks Army Times.


6 posted on 05/24/2008 6:49:11 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Dawnsblood

“Hal Moore is a real American Hero”

Indeed..


7 posted on 05/24/2008 6:53:04 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Dawnsblood; nuconvert
Thank you. My grandfather had a story in a similar, lesser, vein.

He was in a bar in Latin America (Honduras, I think) a few years after WWI. Nearby was a table of Germans, laughing and joking. In a little while they started recounting some action in the war, an effort to capture a house occupied by the enemy. My grandfather got up, went over and asked a few questions, and in short order realized he was in this sameaction, leading the patrol defending the position. He spent the rest of the evening at that table. (Written up in one of his unpublished memoirs, "Gold Is Where You Find It," I think -- he was a mining engineer.)

8 posted on 05/24/2008 6:59:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

[Written up in one of his unpublished memoirs, “Gold Is Where You Find It,” I think — he was a mining engineer]

I heard a guest on talk radio this week (Hugh Hewitt? Glenn Beck?) who is collecting war stories — ones that would never otherwise be published.


9 posted on 05/24/2008 7:51:03 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Love your neighbor. Buy American.)
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To: littlehouse36

Interesting. He did some work for the OSS in WWII too, spying on the Nazis while posing as an Argentinian mining engineer. I hope that one is written up too.


10 posted on 05/24/2008 8:01:53 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Dawnsblood
Hot links to USA Today are allowed. Excerpts are not.
11 posted on 05/24/2008 9:11:34 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sionnsar; ALOHA RONNIE; vietvet67; littlehouse36; Old Retired Army Guy; All
No link, no details given, but the name rang a bell with me. Our ALOHA RONNIE worked for and with Gen. Moore in Vietnam! He is indeed a remarkable man. He wrote We Were Soldiers Once and Young, later made into a movie.

70,000 copies of his most recent book, A General's Sprititual Journey, were included in care packages to our troops last Fall.

Van Nuys, CA-Operation Gratitude presented the first annual NATIONAL FREEDOM AWARD to retired U.S. Army Lieutenant General Hal Moore at the National Guard Armory in Van Nuys, California on December 1, 2007. Joined by We Were Soldiers Once and Young co-author Joe Galloway and the movie adaptation's director Randy Wallace, hundreds of Military personnel and volunteers gathered to pay tribute to the General's renowned career. Several Cavalry Veterans who served under Moore's command surprised the General, and arrived wearing their revered Stetsons, the hallmark of the Cavalry.

"This experience was a most moving and sincere gathering of Americans, drawn together out of deep love and respect for each other, for our troops and for our nation," said Lt. General Moore. "I accepted the National Freedom Award on behalf of all those in harm's way who ensure our continued freedom and to whom we pay great tribute."

Serving as the ceremony's distinguished speaker, Lt. General Moore deeply touched the crowd as he recounted his dramatic return to the scene of the 1965 Battle of Ia Drang in Vietnam. Eric Weider, publisher of the Armchair General and Operation Gratitude Magazines relayed part of General Moore's moving speech in his online forum that night...continued here (scroll almost all the way down...)

Ronnie was there!!

12 posted on 05/24/2008 1:34:59 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita; All

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ALOHA RONNIE was indeed there,

...and somewhere else too:

I met ALOHA RONNIE yesterday (At Operation Gratitude)

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58051

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13 posted on 05/24/2008 3:15:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Calpernia; do the dhue

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‘WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG’ Ping

http://www.lzxray.com

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14 posted on 05/24/2008 3:18:46 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“It is also on the last page of this weeks Army Times.”

I read it there also. It is consistent with how LTG Moore now views his former adversaries.

I respect and admire General Moore and I appreciate his ability to be magnanomous. However, what about the soldiers of the 2nd Battalion of the 7th Cav that relieved his first battalion (1/7 CAV)? They were ruthlessly slaughtered by these same folks. Nothing can forgive the war crimes committed against 2/7th CAV. To forgive that would be the equivalent of forgiving the Bataan Death March perpetrators. There is NO brotherhood of war in circumstances like that. IMO.

God Bless LTG Moore and all American combat veterans.


15 posted on 05/24/2008 3:21:21 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
AR,
I hope you have a great Memorial Day. God bless you and yours. And thank you for the service in Vietnam.

Photobucket
Aloha Ronnie and General Hal Moore.

16 posted on 05/24/2008 5:09:15 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Dawnsblood
Hal Moore is a real American Hero.

So is Aloha Ronnie.

God bless our Troops.

Have a great Memorial Day Weekend!

17 posted on 05/24/2008 5:11:43 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Dawnsblood

big time ping!


18 posted on 05/24/2008 5:16:55 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: do the dhue; All

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PHOTOS:

My Vietnam War Commanding Officer, then Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE, in a then Free South Vietnam’s Central Highlands-1965:

‘RONNIE GUYER PHOTO COLLECTON’ Sets 1-2-3

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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19 posted on 05/24/2008 6:51:36 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Dawnsblood

Here is a similar and powerful story, of one of the Doolittle raiders and POW, subjected to unbelievable cruelty, including being forced to watch helplessly while one of his friends died of slow starvation. But who found Christ in that prison and returned to spend 30 years as a missionary to Japan. He wrote entitled “I Was a Prisoner of Japan,” that was widely distributed throughout Japan. One person who read this tract was an embittered Japanese ex-pilot, Capt. Mitsuo Fuchida, who led the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.... http://www.doolittleraider.com/raiders/deshazer.htm


20 posted on 05/24/2008 8:07:56 PM PDT by daniel1212
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To: Dawnsblood; do the dhue; All

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“ALOHA RONNIE” Guyer’s 2007 OPERATION GRATITUDE Address Message honoring this wonderful Support Our Troops organization’s presenting my Vietnam War Commanding Officer, Lt. Gen. HAL G. MOORE (Ret.), with its 1st Annual National Freedom Award:

“We must NEVER FORGET that the one thing The LOVE Itself needs more of in this world, for GOD is LOVE, is more...

...LOVE.

And that only comes when people are...

...FREE.

Making American Troops fighting to bring more Freedom & thus more LOVE ‘round the world...

...HOLY in GOD’s Eyes”

We report, you decide..?

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21 posted on 05/24/2008 8:11:46 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Sola Veritas
"... what about the soldiers of the 2nd Battalion of the 7th Cav that relieved his first battalion (1/7 CAV)? They were ruthlessly slaughtered by these same folks. Nothing can forgive the war crimes committed against 2/7th CAV. To forgive that would be the equivalent of forgiving the Bataan Death March perpetrators."

I agree. I don't get or approve of the whole "kum-bah-yah" gist of this article or even the attitude of General Moore. How can he embrace them? These guys were the ENEMY! Screw'em all.

22 posted on 05/24/2008 11:34:10 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: do the dhue
~~~(spits on the ground)~~~(tears)~~~

~~~Sgt. Kenny Dean Chappell~~~

~~~KIA Sept 23~1967~LZ-X-ray~~~AO~~~

~~~I'm going to find his grave tomorrow~~~

~~~I can't post more or I would be banned~~~

23 posted on 05/25/2008 12:47:23 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: daniel1212
Here's another article about Captain Fuchida's amazing tale.
24 posted on 05/25/2008 1:50:14 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
I have been to Arlington five times in the last two and a half years. Every time I go there, I try and remember the words of George S Patton:

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.

I thank God everyday that such men lived.

God bless all those who gave some and God bless all those who gave all.


25 posted on 05/25/2008 7:07:51 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue; Calpernia; All

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NEVER FORGET

Indeed...
...some really do selflessly, and so very lovingly, give all they have to give for the well being of others.

No matter what:

9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, R.I.P.

(The Story)
http://www.RickRescorla.com

(The Pictures)
http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm

(The Rest of the Story)
http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361

NEVER FORGET

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26 posted on 05/25/2008 8:08:40 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I like this picture:

CSM Plumley, General Moore, and Joe Galloway at Rick Rescorla's statue unveiling.

HEY!! Who is that?


27 posted on 05/25/2008 8:40:19 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Wow! I've heard bits and pieces of that story, but your link was the best account I've ever seen. Particularly amazing is the role Douglas MacArthur played in getting that phamplet printed and distributed:

Meanwhile, Gen. Douglas MacArthur had sent a message via his staff chaplain to the president of the Bible Meditation League (now known as Bible Literature International). MacArthur asked the league to print something that might help heal the wounds between Japan and the United States. The league printed 1 million pamphlets of DeShazer's testimony, I Was A Prisoner of Japan, for distribution throughout the country.

MacArthur's righteous occupation is still universally respected by the Japanese who lived during that era. I had the honor of touring his office on the top floor of the Dai-Ichi Financial Building in Tokyo some years ago. The role which MacArthur and his love of Christianity played in turning one of our most bitter enemies into one of our most steadfast allies in such a short time in unequaled in the annals of history.

28 posted on 05/25/2008 10:08:02 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; SevenofNine
"‘WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG’ Ping"

God bless you and thank you for your service to our country.
Never forget..

29 posted on 05/26/2008 12:39:46 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: All; monkapotamus

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A Personal Journey:

‘WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...& YOUNG’...4 FREEDOM

http://www.Freerepublic.com/forum/a39626542519c.htm

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30 posted on 05/26/2008 3:22:40 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: monkapotamus; All

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..A Freeper Vet goes to the Vietnam Wall..

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1019769/posts

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31 posted on 05/26/2008 7:47:18 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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