Skip to comments.Buyer's Remorse - How Rank and File Democrats are Rejecting Their 'Inevitable' Nominee
Posted on 05/26/2008 7:47:23 PM PDT by neverdem
PART ONE: ALL VOTERS, GENDER, AND RACE
Ever since the media declared that Barack Obama was inevitable after February 19th, based on a two week period when the an unprepared Hillary Clinton campaign suffered 10 straight losses, rank and file Democratic voters have been sending a message. Rather than rally round the inevitable nominee that message has been a consistent, loud, and clear message to the Democratic Party DO NOT WANT.
In nearly every demographic category since February 19, Clinton percentage of the vote has risen, while Obamas has fallen. This includes Obamas supposed strong demographic categories such as voters with college degrees post-graduate degrees and voters whose income is above the national median. And Clinton beat Obama in the primaries in March, April and May in most of the major categories.
In the aftermath of Super Tuesday, John McCain was anointed by the media as the inevitable nominee and with good reason. McCain had accumulated 740 of the necessary 1129 pledged delegates necessary to clinch the GOP nomination, and all he had to do was win 40% of the remaining delegates against two non-mainstream Republican challengers (Huckabee and Paul). Rank and file Republicans accepted McCain as their nominee, and McCain won every contest held subsequent to Super Tuesday with the exception of the Louisiana primary held on February 9th..and that contest he lost by only 1% (43% to 42%).
McCain may not have been the choice of the majority of Republicans, but once he was declared the inevitable nominee, rank and file Republicans closed ranks behind McCain. Despite doing virtually no campaigning at all, McCain has been able to garner at least 50% of the vote in every other primary contest held subsequent to Super Tuesday...
(Excerpt) Read more at taylormarsh.com ...
TaylorMarsh must be on Hillary’s Coin.
Fact check: He managed only 24% in the Kansas Caucus held the same day.
The Dims are in (operation) chaos...
she is. she is very strongly pro clinton and will spin virtually anything into something good for hillary.
why are we sourcing liberal blogs here? may as well source the daily kos...
And with all this chaos on the Dem side, this race is McCain’s to lose.
And he is making a good go at losing, with his RINO stances.
They'll just remain irrelevant, like their faction of the party.
The poll out this week says that only NH is competitive. CO, IA, NM, OH, MN all lean heavily to Oprah’s Obama.
I feel neither pique, anger or hubris.
A loyalty to my country and my beliefs however.
I will never vote for a liberal.
McQueeg is just that and no more.
Interesting article. Makes me wonder who the dimocrat nominee will be????
I have always said that it will NOT be ‘Bama.
I couldn't say. I never heard of her before. I found the link at American Thinker. I was afraid we couldn't post it like the Huffington Post. The donkeys don't sound too confident whomever they run. Considering McRino, I hope the dems disintegrate.
It is unclear to me how it makes me relevant to support someone that actively champions that in which I do not believe.
A "pique" of anger? My disagreements with Senator McCain go well beyond that.
Senator McCain would be a more logical choice for an "anger & hubris" designation.
Rank and file republicans maybe but not conservatives.
what poll re you referring to ? I say polls showing McCain ahead in Ohio ,NH, and IA.
Oh wow.I guess we will see if you can win without us conservatives.Good luck with that.
While their faith in a better hereafter may well have been true, they were still quite dead as a result.
Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face serves little purpose but to mutilate oneself. The day after, spent in pain and self pity, will reveal only a lost chance and new boot upon ones neck.
Cowardice has many fathers.
IMO there's a difference between rank and file Democrats and the leaders of the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party).
Obama has come up with something that will surely attract all Rat Party stalwarts -- but maybe not rank and file Democrats.
Obama's twist is to end our hogging the world's resources.
Please, sir, I want some more
That is the name of standard form one (SF0001) for Obama's Twist.
The world's peoples will have the final say on how we use and how much of the resources we will be permitted to use.
In no more than 25 words you describe your need. The majority of decision makers will not have computers (no electricity) so decisions could take months. Plan ahead.
Might I suggest you purchase a mirror on 5 November.
Regardless of how much of a longterm Clintonista this Taylor Marsh may be, I have been saying Hillary will be the nominee since the big Obama surge MONTHS ago. I say it here on FR every chance I get/ The MSM lets no opportunity get by to continue hammering home the theme that Obama has got it in the bag.At this point, if these new statistics are true, methinks they are protesting too much, yet it’s obvious that Job One is going to continue to be Obama Promotion, if for no reason other than for the MSM to prove itself right, and more than that, prescient. I still don’t think Obama has got ANYTHING in the bag.
The biggest problem with Obama is that, even though the past month or so has seen lots of trouble come his way, he was already on what looked like an unstoppable roll by the time all the negatives started coming out.It was almost “too late” even a few months ago. The hammering on the negatives would normally have been the work of the Clinton campaign, but at that time they still thought they were inevitable , and that Obama was the virtual flash-in-the-pan. They still have a tricky game of catch-up to play, but I think they’ll do it. Or more likely their surrogates will do it.Hillary will be the nominee.
We probably have accepted the McCain reality, but with little joy.
It will be Hillary Clinton.
The wheels have come off for Hussein Obama since the rev. Wright videos came out. If they had come out earlier, Hussein and Michelle would just go back to hatin’ America.
I am afraid that they only hate white America.
You're not alone. That would be a bullseye, especially against Obama with his wish to repeal concealed carry.
I've been saying the same thing. Hillary will be the nominee.
“Senator McCain would be a more logical choice for an “anger & hubris” designation.”
I have heard tell that Mr McCain has a bit of a temper...
>>>Oh wow.I guess we will see if you can win without us conservatives.Good luck with that.
The Republicans normally have to do without the crackpot fringe of the conservative wing regardless. In 1992 they went for Perot, and gave us 8 years of Clinton. In 2000 they went for Buchanan, and came within 537 votes of electing Al Gore. And this year they will again go their merry way, probably for Cindy Sheehan’s favorite Republican.
Business as usual for the rule or ruin crowd. If the “self-elected pure” conservatives are the real Republicans though, you’d think they could have nominated Hunter, Thompson, or whoever.
If he is forced to choose between the 90% (conservatives included) who are “rinos” plus the independents and Obama-hating Hillarites who are up for grabs, vs the Ron Paul clavens, I think I know who McCain will seek. That’s not luck. That’s arithmetic.
For the Republicans, it's much worse: They have McCain. He automatically alienates 20-25% of his own base. McCain wants to play to the center for independents and liberals and wants a Veep to draw more of them. In the process he loses more of his base which is stubborn enough not to support him come November regardless of the outcome. Just the facts of the math the GOP is dancing around. If McCain selects a solid conservative Veep, he at least solidifies his base but sacrifices many independents, who may or may not support him regardless.
Watch your yap with the "McCain Haters" comments.
FReepers have every right in this forum to embrace conservatism and voice our concerns over centrists, RINOs and their loser sycophants.
As for 1992, your “crackpot conservative’ theory is so much hokum. Read any book on the election and it will tell you that the Christian right was all that stayed with Bush one. Perot got a whole lot of the libertarian wing conservatives, people that were basically independents. Perot was for abortion. Social conservatives wouldn't touch him.
Your party is going into the dumper. It stands for nothing. If you want to be a Democrat, then join them and give us our party back. I despise Rino’s. You despise whatever you choose to call us. So we're even. But I don't have to vote for this latest drek you and your like have foisted on us, a professional betrayer and scoundrel like John McCain. I won't vote for him. You can insult me until the moon turns blue.
I never failed to vote for a Bush on any general election ballot. Four for four. Now go back to your Mother Goose rhymes and bring us some more fun tales about past elections.
So the conservatives are the crackpot fringe of the republican party? Really. Why are you on FR?
>>>So the conservatives are the crackpot fringe of the republican party? Really. Why are you on FR?
Incorrect or dishonest quote. The correct quote is:
“the crackpot fringe OF the conservative wing”
Why am I here? Because as vocal as that fringe is here and as much as they seem to miss the good old days of the Know Nothing Party, I don’t think it represents the thinking of anything close to a majority. If and when that changes and this becomes something like a Ron Paul site, I’ll reconsider.
“But at least get your facts straight. Next to nobody voted for Buchanan in 2000. Gore was hurt far more by Ralph Nader”
The margin was 537 votes out of several million. “Next to nobody” was almost enough. Those who voted for Pat against “RINO George” came too close. How close will 2008 be?
This will be another mouth full of ashes for the rat at the presidential level. This have once again fooled themselves about who they really are and what they really stand for.
We are the Three Musketeers.
The only three on FR perhaps, who still think HRC will be
We will have every right to gloat if we turn out to be right.
The problem with crushing the Obama campaign , though, is that it will have to be done through surrogates, indirectly, and cause remaining SupDelegates to embarrasedly switch back to Hillary. There are half-dozen things on Obama that,like time release capsules, be leaked out over the next weeks, and add nails to his coffin. This is going to be interesting........
Well, I hope you will enjoy four or eight years of Obama then.
And your threatening people and trying to shut up people from pointing out the obvious ? I am not threatening anyone you are .
My guess is that by the Nov elections the conservatives will still come home. They may be holding their collective noses, but they'll rally 'round the nominee. Especially if he picks a palatable veep. But nonetheless, once Obama's true views are known widely and the impact of an Obama or even Clinton Presidency looms, the Republicans will still come home. I'm already prepping myself for this inevitability in my own life. Those who don't were leaning Libertarian or Constitution Party from the start, anyway.
But their alternative is to vote for Hillary! Clinton, a harridan who is yet a nearer reminder of the unlamented Bill.
Not that I'd ever want to be one in any case, but I'd really hate to be a Democrat right now, and have to choose between that sorry lot.
As they irrelvantly roar like once mighty Mastodons:
Sorry, I don’t but into that threat either.
Not a threat, just a statement.