Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Buyer's Remorse - How Rank and File Democrats are Rejecting Their 'Inevitable' Nominee
TaylorMarsh.com ^ | 05.25.2008 | Paul Lukasiak

Posted on 05/26/2008 7:47:23 PM PDT by neverdem

PART ONE: ALL VOTERS, GENDER, AND RACE

Ever since the media declared that Barack Obama was “inevitable” after February 19th, based on a two week period when the an unprepared Hillary Clinton campaign suffered “10 straight losses”, rank and file Democratic voters have been sending a message. Rather than rally ‘round the “inevitable nominee” that message has been a consistent, loud, and clear message to the Democratic Party – DO NOT WANT.

In nearly every demographic category since February 19, Clinton percentage of the vote has risen, while Obama’s has fallen. This includes Obama’s supposed “strong” demographic categories such as voters with college degrees post-graduate degrees and voters whose income is above the national median. And Clinton beat Obama in the primaries in March, April and May in most of the major categories.

In the aftermath of Super Tuesday, John McCain was anointed by the media as the inevitable nominee – and with good reason. McCain had accumulated 740 of the necessary 1129 “pledged” delegates necessary to clinch the GOP nomination, and all he had to do was win 40% of the remaining delegates against two “non-mainstream” Republican challengers (Huckabee and Paul). Rank and file Republicans accepted McCain as their nominee, and McCain won every contest held subsequent to Super Tuesday with the exception of the Louisiana primary held on February 9th..and that contest he lost by only 1% (43% to 42%).

McCain may not have been the choice of the majority of Republicans, but once he was declared the “inevitable nominee”, rank and file Republicans closed ranks behind McCain. Despite doing virtually no campaigning at all, McCain has been able to garner at least 50% of the vote in every other primary contest held subsequent to Super Tuesday...

(Excerpt) Read more at taylormarsh.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; clinton; demprimary; obama

1 posted on 05/26/2008 7:47:23 PM PDT by neverdem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Ever since the media declared that Barack Obama was “inevitable” after February 19th.

Funny how the media declared Hitlery inevitable several months only to fall out of favor and now the same is happening to Obama.

Rank and file Republicans accepted McCain as their nominee,

The GOP may have accepted McCain but not conservatives.
2 posted on 05/26/2008 7:52:02 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

TaylorMarsh must be on Hillary’s Coin.


3 posted on 05/26/2008 7:52:33 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
McCain may not have been the choice of the majority of Republicans, but once he was declared the “inevitable nominee”, rank and file Republicans closed ranks behind McCain.

They have?

4 posted on 05/26/2008 7:54:00 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
McCain won every contest held subsequent to Super Tuesday with the exception of the Louisiana primary held on February 9th.

Fact check: He managed only 24% in the Kansas Caucus held the same day.

5 posted on 05/26/2008 8:00:26 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

The Dims are in (operation) chaos...


6 posted on 05/26/2008 8:01:25 PM PDT by tips up
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Republican

she is. she is very strongly pro clinton and will spin virtually anything into something good for hillary.

why are we sourcing liberal blogs here? may as well source the daily kos...


7 posted on 05/26/2008 8:01:45 PM PDT by cdchik123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

And with all this chaos on the Dem side, this race is McCain’s to lose.

And he is making a good go at losing, with his RINO stances.


8 posted on 05/26/2008 8:02:24 PM PDT by tips up
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Those who sit and hold their breaths in a pique of anger and hubris sure haven't, nor will they, rally 'round McCain.

They'll just remain irrelevant, like their faction of the party.

9 posted on 05/26/2008 8:04:34 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

The poll out this week says that only NH is competitive. CO, IA, NM, OH, MN all lean heavily to Oprah’s Obama.


10 posted on 05/26/2008 8:05:34 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Thumper1960

I feel neither pique, anger or hubris.
A loyalty to my country and my beliefs however.
I will never vote for a liberal.
McQueeg is just that and no more.


11 posted on 05/26/2008 8:07:57 PM PDT by acapesket
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Interesting article. Makes me wonder who the dimocrat nominee will be????

I have always said that it will NOT be ‘Bama.


12 posted on 05/26/2008 8:10:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Republican
TaylorMarsh must be on Hillary’s Coin.

I couldn't say. I never heard of her before. I found the link at American Thinker. I was afraid we couldn't post it like the Huffington Post. The donkeys don't sound too confident whomever they run. Considering McRino, I hope the dems disintegrate.

13 posted on 05/26/2008 8:12:37 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Thumper1960
They'll just remain irrelevant, like their faction of the party.

It is unclear to me how it makes me relevant to support someone that actively champions that in which I do not believe.

A "pique" of anger? My disagreements with Senator McCain go well beyond that.

Senator McCain would be a more logical choice for an "anger & hubris" designation.

14 posted on 05/26/2008 8:20:00 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Rank and file republicans maybe but not conservatives.


15 posted on 05/26/2008 8:21:42 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Theodore R.

what poll re you referring to ? I say polls showing McCain ahead in Ohio ,NH, and IA.


16 posted on 05/26/2008 8:22:43 PM PDT by ncalburt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Thumper1960

Oh wow.I guess we will see if you can win without us conservatives.Good luck with that.


17 posted on 05/26/2008 8:24:57 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
I know this is bad news for the McCain haters or should you be called the defacto Obama camp . I notice every time there is a positive McCain post, the McCain haters swarm to it like flies on a pig.
18 posted on 05/26/2008 8:26:19 PM PDT by ncalburt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

19 posted on 05/26/2008 8:28:07 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Slide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Image hosted by Photobucket.com
and the RATS, take another one in the..................HA ha!!!

20 posted on 05/26/2008 8:28:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Many a saint has gone to the stake professing principles.

While their faith in a better hereafter may well have been true, they were still quite dead as a result.

Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face serves little purpose but to mutilate oneself. The day after, spent in pain and self pity, will reveal only a lost chance and new boot upon ones neck.

Cowardice has many fathers.

21 posted on 05/26/2008 8:29:22 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Buyer's Remorse - How Rank and File Democrats are Rejecting Their 'Inevitable' Nominee

IMO there's a difference between rank and file Democrats and the leaders of the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party).

Obama has come up with something that will surely attract all Rat Party stalwarts -- but maybe not rank and file Democrats.

Obama's twist is to end our hogging the world's resources.

Please, sir, I want some more

That is the name of standard form one (SF0001) for Obama's Twist.

The world's peoples will have the final say on how we use and how much of the resources we will be permitted to use.

In no more than 25 words you describe your need. The majority of decision makers will not have computers (no electricity) so decisions could take months. Plan ahead.

22 posted on 05/26/2008 8:30:43 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: imahawk
If there is a loss, just who is it who will be the loser?

Might I suggest you purchase a mirror on 5 November.

23 posted on 05/26/2008 8:31:32 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Regardless of how much of a longterm Clintonista this Taylor Marsh may be, I have been saying Hillary will be the nominee since the big Obama surge MONTHS ago. I say it here on FR every chance I get/ The MSM lets no opportunity get by to continue hammering home the theme that Obama has got it in the bag.At this point, if these new statistics are true, methinks they are protesting too much, yet it’s obvious that Job One is going to continue to be Obama Promotion, if for no reason other than for the MSM to prove itself right, and more than that, prescient. I still don’t think Obama has got ANYTHING in the bag.
The biggest problem with Obama is that, even though the past month or so has seen lots of trouble come his way, he was already on what looked like an unstoppable roll by the time all the negatives started coming out.It was almost “too late” even a few months ago. The hammering on the negatives would normally have been the work of the Clinton campaign, but at that time they still thought they were inevitable , and that Obama was the virtual flash-in-the-pan. They still have a tricky game of catch-up to play, but I think they’ll do it. Or more likely their surrogates will do it.Hillary will be the nominee.


24 posted on 05/26/2008 8:31:49 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn"--Delmore Schwartz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
"The GOP may have accepted McCain but not conservatives.

We probably have accepted the McCain reality, but with little joy.

25 posted on 05/26/2008 8:38:27 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

mark


26 posted on 05/26/2008 8:39:21 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

It will be Hillary Clinton.


27 posted on 05/26/2008 8:45:09 PM PDT by atomicweeder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: supremedoctrine
I have been saying the same thing. I post it on liberal blogs and get relentlessly attacked by Obama fanatics.


28 posted on 05/26/2008 8:48:09 PM PDT by atomicweeder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

The wheels have come off for Hussein Obama since the rev. Wright videos came out. If they had come out earlier, Hussein and Michelle would just go back to hatin’ America.


29 posted on 05/26/2008 9:09:20 PM PDT by boycott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/us/politics/26clinton.html?bl&ex=1211947200&en=233830265b9af6ce&ei=5087%0A
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/lanny-davis-com.html
http://blogs.dw-world.de/acrossthepond/michael/1.6486.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/guy-t-saperstein/secret-clinton-memo-revea_b_103506.html


30 posted on 05/26/2008 9:16:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
I was at a local gun show on Saturday and they kept pushing McCain over the PA speakers as having sworn to sign national legislation for some sort of national CCW bill. I doubt we'll ever get that one passed so he may feel safe making the announcement, but I'd love to know if he ever really asserted that. Remember when GW swore to sign ccw in Texas once elected governor he won by a landslide.
31 posted on 05/26/2008 10:19:52 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: boycott
...Hussein and Michelle would just go back to hatin’ America.

I am afraid that they only hate white America.

32 posted on 05/26/2008 10:25:58 PM PDT by CurlyDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: ExSoldier
I doubt we'll ever get that one passed so he may feel safe making the announcement, but I'd love to know if he ever really asserted that.

You're not alone. That would be a bullseye, especially against Obama with his wish to repeal concealed carry.

33 posted on 05/26/2008 10:58:45 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: atomicweeder
It will be Hillary Clinton.

I've been saying the same thing. Hillary will be the nominee.

34 posted on 05/26/2008 11:08:57 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: ChildOfThe60s

“Senator McCain would be a more logical choice for an “anger & hubris” designation.”

I have heard tell that Mr McCain has a bit of a temper...


35 posted on 05/27/2008 12:10:46 AM PDT by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: imahawk

>>>Oh wow.I guess we will see if you can win without us conservatives.Good luck with that.

The Republicans normally have to do without the crackpot fringe of the conservative wing regardless. In 1992 they went for Perot, and gave us 8 years of Clinton. In 2000 they went for Buchanan, and came within 537 votes of electing Al Gore. And this year they will again go their merry way, probably for Cindy Sheehan’s favorite Republican.

Business as usual for the rule or ruin crowd. If the “self-elected pure” conservatives are the real Republicans though, you’d think they could have nominated Hunter, Thompson, or whoever.

If he is forced to choose between the 90% (conservatives included) who are “rinos” plus the independents and Obama-hating Hillarites who are up for grabs, vs the Ron Paul clavens, I think I know who McCain will seek. That’s not luck. That’s arithmetic.


36 posted on 05/27/2008 12:55:58 AM PDT by tlb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
What it comes down to is that the Democrats have to make a choice: Is it Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary. This could salvage much of their base, but not all. While the decision may be unacceptable to the Obama camp, they aren't in a position to dictate as much as follow orders. The Clinton camp is a "loose cannon" and the party needs to place as much effort in dealing with them as they would the GOP opposition.

For the Republicans, it's much worse: They have McCain. He automatically alienates 20-25% of his own base. McCain wants to play to the center for independents and liberals and wants a Veep to draw more of them. In the process he loses more of his base which is stubborn enough not to support him come November regardless of the outcome. Just the facts of the math the GOP is dancing around. If McCain selects a solid conservative Veep, he at least solidifies his base but sacrifices many independents, who may or may not support him regardless.

37 posted on 05/27/2008 2:55:51 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt
I know this is bad news for the McCain haters or should you be called the defacto Obama camp . I notice every time there is a positive McCain post, the McCain haters swarm to it like flies on a pig.

Watch your yap with the "McCain Haters" comments.

FReepers have every right in this forum to embrace conservatism and voice our concerns over centrists, RINOs and their loser sycophants.

38 posted on 05/27/2008 2:58:47 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: tlb
You dislike conservatives, fine. But at least get your facts straight. Next to nobody voted for Buchanan in 2000. Gore was hurt far more by Ralph Nader. The people in Florida who couldn't punch the right hole made for a somewhat suspicious scenario that probably involved voter fraud. There was no mass conservative movement toward Buchanan in 2000.

As for 1992, your “crackpot conservative’ theory is so much hokum. Read any book on the election and it will tell you that the Christian right was all that stayed with Bush one. Perot got a whole lot of the libertarian wing conservatives, people that were basically independents. Perot was for abortion. Social conservatives wouldn't touch him.

Your party is going into the dumper. It stands for nothing. If you want to be a Democrat, then join them and give us our party back. I despise Rino’s. You despise whatever you choose to call us. So we're even. But I don't have to vote for this latest drek you and your like have foisted on us, a professional betrayer and scoundrel like John McCain. I won't vote for him. You can insult me until the moon turns blue.

I never failed to vote for a Bush on any general election ballot. Four for four. Now go back to your Mother Goose rhymes and bring us some more fun tales about past elections.

39 posted on 05/27/2008 3:43:28 AM PDT by Luke21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: tlb

So the conservatives are the crackpot fringe of the republican party? Really. Why are you on FR?


40 posted on 05/27/2008 4:28:54 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: imahawk; Luke21

>>>So the conservatives are the crackpot fringe of the republican party? Really. Why are you on FR?

Incorrect or dishonest quote. The correct quote is:

“the crackpot fringe OF the conservative wing”

Why am I here? Because as vocal as that fringe is here and as much as they seem to miss the good old days of the Know Nothing Party, I don’t think it represents the thinking of anything close to a majority. If and when that changes and this becomes something like a Ron Paul site, I’ll reconsider.

“But at least get your facts straight. Next to nobody voted for Buchanan in 2000. Gore was hurt far more by Ralph Nader”

The margin was 537 votes out of several million. “Next to nobody” was almost enough. Those who voted for Pat against “RINO George” came too close. How close will 2008 be?


41 posted on 05/27/2008 5:00:42 AM PDT by tlb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

This will be another mouth full of ashes for the rat at the presidential level. This have once again fooled themselves about who they really are and what they really stand for.


42 posted on 05/27/2008 5:10:46 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: upsdriver; atomicweeder

We are the Three Musketeers.
The only three on FR perhaps, who still think HRC will be
the nominee?
We will have every right to gloat if we turn out to be right.
The problem with crushing the Obama campaign , though, is that it will have to be done through surrogates, indirectly, and cause remaining SupDelegates to embarrasedly switch back to Hillary. There are half-dozen things on Obama that,like time release capsules, be leaked out over the next weeks, and add nails to his coffin. This is going to be interesting........


43 posted on 05/27/2008 6:33:27 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn"--Delmore Schwartz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: acapesket

Well, I hope you will enjoy four or eight years of Obama then.


44 posted on 05/27/2008 6:58:41 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Caipirabob

And your threatening people and trying to shut up people from pointing out the obvious ? I am not threatening anyone you are .


45 posted on 05/27/2008 7:31:15 AM PDT by ncalburt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: imahawk
Oh wow. I guess we will see if you can win without us conservatives.Good luck with that.

My guess is that by the Nov elections the conservatives will still come home. They may be holding their collective noses, but they'll rally 'round the nominee. Especially if he picks a palatable veep. But nonetheless, once Obama's true views are known widely and the impact of an Obama or even Clinton Presidency looms, the Republicans will still come home. I'm already prepping myself for this inevitability in my own life. Those who don't were leaning Libertarian or Constitution Party from the start, anyway.

46 posted on 05/27/2008 7:33:02 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Weelllll.... maybe. It's entirely possible that more folks on the Dem side are recognizing Obama for what he is: the political love child of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. And it's entirely possible that they remember enough of those awful presidencies that they are leery of supporting another one.

But their alternative is to vote for Hillary! Clinton, a harridan who is yet a nearer reminder of the unlamented Bill.

Not that I'd ever want to be one in any case, but I'd really hate to be a Democrat right now, and have to choose between that sorry lot.

47 posted on 05/27/2008 7:39:42 AM PDT by r9etb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Thumper1960
Those, who sit and hold their breaths in a pique of anger and hubris sure haven't, nor will they, rally 'round McCain. They'll just remain irrelevant, like their faction of the party. (Thumper1960)

As they irrelvantly roar like once mighty Mastodons:

48 posted on 05/27/2008 8:35:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein Obama"Hama's" Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Marysecretary

Sorry, I don’t but into that threat either.


49 posted on 05/27/2008 10:32:43 AM PDT by acapesket
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: acapesket

Not a threat, just a statement.


50 posted on 05/27/2008 8:41:19 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson