Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Smoking ban has union huffing at Caterpillar
AP ^

Posted on 06/01/2008 6:27:38 PM PDT by janetjanet998

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-48 next last
To: mysterio
As long as anyone that is overweight is given the same ripoff health insurance rate.

Or "gay"...or drives a car...or skydives...

21 posted on 06/01/2008 7:01:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: BlueNgold

100% correct..I dont know if it’s true or not but someone I know that works there Cat is trying to use Clinton like lawyer talk claiming:

“On the job” means at your work machine only not anywhere else such as in your car or outside


22 posted on 06/01/2008 7:03:12 PM PDT by janetjanet998
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: janetjanet998

This actually kinda funny.

Banning smoking (the taking away of rights) has been a Democratic Liberal agenda item, and it’s that same Democratic Liberals the unions keep supporting!

I don’t remember too many companies in the 70’s and 80’s banning smoking in the workplace. This only became the “thing to do” when the Liberals started to push the agenda.

Another example of irony to add to my list.


23 posted on 06/01/2008 7:03:50 PM PDT by uptoolate (The Republican fear of Liberalism is why we are in this predicament)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SaveTheChief
That was 93 or 94, I can't remember the years involved but the union was paying striking members $300 per week plus all of comprehensive health insurance costs for the whole 18 months.

Caterpillar offered regular pay which was much more than $300 per week, plus all the overtime anybody wanted. The flood gates were opened.

24 posted on 06/01/2008 7:06:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: SaveTheChief

The cost of the health plan alone was around $1300 per month even back then.


25 posted on 06/01/2008 7:07:43 PM PDT by Graybeard58
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Drango
Smokers tend to have grievances over a lot of things

Bullhockey when you take something that has been legal since the time of the forefathers and write legislation to turn it into a crime then add fake documentaion to it stating it's harmful to those who are not even effected by it's proximity "grievances" is a very weak word !

"Tyranny" is the word "Tyranny from an oligarchy" Should be the phrase

26 posted on 06/01/2008 7:35:53 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (http://eaglecooler.wordpress.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: GovernmentShrinker

“Grow up and deal with it.”

got any vices? Eat red meat? drink a couple beers? ride your bicycle without a helmet?

It’s not like they’re going to end smoking and go home. wait long enough, and they’ll be after something you enjoy.


27 posted on 06/01/2008 7:43:25 PM PDT by stompk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: garbanzo

Illinois law bans smoking. Have you heard?


28 posted on 06/01/2008 7:44:32 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Drango
Smokers tend to have grievances over a lot of things.

Yeah! Like snobbish non-smokers.

29 posted on 06/01/2008 7:46:11 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Bushbacker1

BUMP!


30 posted on 06/01/2008 7:52:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Drango

Actually from my experience, its always the non-smokers who have the “issues” with everything.


31 posted on 06/01/2008 7:58:10 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: mysterio

anyone who is overweight, or homosexual. Both groups use way more health care costs than smokers ever will.


32 posted on 06/01/2008 8:07:24 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Bushbacker1

BUMP and BRAVO!!


33 posted on 06/01/2008 8:40:29 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Madame Dufarge; Eric Blair 2084; Gabz; metesky; 383rr

the latest assault. Primarily done and designed in order to be able to write grievances and fire people close to drawing a pension.


34 posted on 06/01/2008 8:43:29 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Drango

“Smokers tend to have grievances over a lot of things.”

Re your rather smarmy comment, most people have grievances when their freedoms begin to be chipped away. When your freedom to be a pr**k is outlawed, do you think you’ll be happy?


35 posted on 06/01/2008 9:23:23 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: narses

“Illinois law bans smoking. Have you heard?”

Smoke nazi’s...

Telling someone they cant smoke in the same area where people are WELDING STEEL is nothing but “becuase I said so”...

Here in Ohio I’m not even “allowed” to smoke in my service truck even though I’m the only one who drives it and never have passengers...

I’ve been told I cant even smoke on a job site even though there wasnt a single wall erected yet...just a flat slab in the middle of a field...

I lit a cigarette and blew smoke right in his face...”fire me”..

Screw that fascist crap.


36 posted on 06/01/2008 11:13:23 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: mysterio; utherdoul

why doesn’t catiplliar just require that if you smoke you don’t get insurance or you have to pay an extra premium.

As long as anyone that is overweight is given the same ripoff health insurance rate.

What about the alcholics and druggies?


37 posted on 06/01/2008 11:17:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: ATOMIC_PUNK
when you take something that has been legal since the time of the forefathers

Actually, no. Many states banned tobacco around the beginning of the twentieth century. Needless to say those bans have been overturned. A waste of time whining about the rights this poison has. A right to be banned is all.

38 posted on 06/02/2008 1:42:16 AM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil......" Eric Schmidt, CEO, Google)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Crim
I’m not even “allowed” to smoke in my service truck even though I’m the only one who drives it

Because as a smoker in the truck, you are a bigger risk to be insured. The company you choose to work for has probably negotiated an insurance rate based on the fact that no drivers can light up in the insured vehicles. Wah.

39 posted on 06/02/2008 1:45:14 AM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil......" Eric Schmidt, CEO, Google)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

“Primarily done and designed in order to be able to write grievances and fire people close to drawing a pension.”

Yes, and it is an airtight politically correct way of doing so, as well.

You and I both know anyone that is even the least bit overweight is going to be next in this barrel.
Just imagine the insurance savings then!!! What a way to weed out those lousy pensioners!!

I guess we can say they had it coming. It could have been stopped, but all the $#@holes just had to jump on the smoker-hater bandwagon.

They can thank themselves for all this at the appropriate time. Like when it’s their turn.


40 posted on 06/02/2008 6:12:26 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-48 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson