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Systematic Legal Plunder is One Sure Sign of the End of the Republic
DBKP ^ | June 4, 2008 | Mondoreb

Posted on 06/04/2008 7:42:24 PM PDT by mondoreb

legal plunder

“The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.” --Fredrick Bastiat, 1850 in The Law

Red Planet Cartoons has a sad and somber story to tell with the cartoon above. It has to do with how human nature and republics work. The story has never yet had a happy ending.

It's the rare human that isn't interested in getting something-for-nothing. However, most adults used to realize that this isn't possible; at least as a large-scale, long-term proposition. Anyone who thinks differently--well, those people are called "the Democrat Party".

That's sad.

But, there is an increasing number of Republicans in Congress willing to join in on the legal robbery of private property these days. These are many of the same people who coined the phrase, "compassionate conservatism".

That's tragic.

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Even in the Soviet Union, "The Law of There Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch" eventually prevailed.
1 posted on 06/04/2008 7:42:26 PM PDT by mondoreb
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To: mondoreb

—bflr—


2 posted on 06/04/2008 7:44:39 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: mondoreb
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3 posted on 06/04/2008 7:49:10 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mondoreb

Can government do the work of God (Charity)?

What I have read and understood from the Bible is that God and Jesus wants us to help each other by using our own time, treasure and talent and to give from our hearts (”Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” - 2 Corinthians 9:7). Nowhere have I found anything along the lines of “Go out and institute huge bureaucracies that will take money from some people at the point of a sword and give that money to other people as a politician sees fit.”

Our Founding Fathers were Christian and very pious men. They founded this country under strong Judeo-Christian tenets and reflected on their religious beliefs on all their decisions. They wrote nothing into the Constitution of any type of government “aid” to help the poor, children or anyone else on purpose. They wanted a very limited government for good reason. Limited government is the best way to ensure that freedom will be preserved. The Scottish philosopher Alexander Tytler, who lived during the time of the American Revolution and writing of the US Constitution, summed these views:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure.

From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been two hundred years.

These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.”

There are many interesting questions if citizens rely on government to do “God’s Work.”

If a government takes a portion of a man’s wages and does good with it, has the man also done good? If a government takes away a portion of a woman’s property and does evil with it, has the woman also done evil? When a rich man pays more in taxes than a poor person, is he more Godly? If the government then does evil, is he more to blame? A woman works for the government and uses other people’s tax money and does “God Work” with it, is this government woman now a good/Godly woman? If I legally try to avoid paying taxes, does that not make me an “Ungodly” man?

Today, the US government (federal, state and local) takes nearly 50% of a middle-class person’s paycheck after all taxes are factored in (income taxes, Social Security, sales tax, real estate taxes, gas tax, death taxes, phone taxes, highway tolls, sad etc.). Uncle Sam will spend more money in just this year (2004) than it spent combined between 1787 and 1900 - even after adjusting for inflation. I cringe at those numbers. The Founding Fathers wanted nothing like the tax-consuming monster that we have as a government today. I also think of all the good work that could have be done if people were allowed to keep more of their own money and give it to organizations/people that they believe in their heart are doing God’s work. Maybe it comes down to trust. Will people do the right thing with their own money or must a government take a huge chunk of it to do the “right things?”

Except government rarely does anything right except for those tasks that were explicitly outlined in the Constitution as the Founding Father intended. I could cite many examples (such as where would you rather put $10,000 in retirement money - in Social Security or in your own 401k plan?) but the plight of black America illustrates this failure beyond comparison.

In 1965, the US government was going to wipe out poverty by the “Great Society” programs, in which to date over 3.5 trillion dollars has been spent. These federal programs were designed to “help families and children” or “buy votes” depending on your political viewpoint.

At the beginning of the 1960’s, the black out of wedlock birth rate was 22%. In the late 1975 it reached 49% and shot up to 65% in 1989. In some of the largest urban centers of the nation the rate of illegitimacy among blacks today exceeds 80% and averages 69% nationwide. As late as the 1970’s there was still a social stigma attached to a woman who was pregnant outside marriage. Now, government programs have substituted for the father and for black moral leadership. The black family and culture has collapsed (and white families are not that far behind).

Illegitimacy leads directly to poverty, crime and social problems. Out of wedlock children are four times more likely to be poor. They are much more likely to live in high crime areas with no hope of escape. In turn, they are forced to attend dangerous and poor-performing government schools, which directly leads to another generation of poverty.

Traditional black areas of Harlem, Englewood and West Philadelphia in the 1950s were safe working class neighborhoods (even though “poor” by material measures). Women were unafraid to walk at night and children played unmolested in the streets and parks. Today, these are some of the worst crime plagued areas of our nation. Work that was once dignified is now shunned. Welfare does not require recipients to do anything in exchange for their benefits. Many rules actually discourage work or provide benefits that reduce the incentive to find work.

The black abortion rate today is nearly 40%. Pregnancies among black women are twice as likely to end in abortion as pregnancies among white and Hispanic women.

The “Great Society” programs all had good intentions. Unfortunately, their real world results are that they have replaced the traditional/Christian models of family/work with that of what a government bureaucrat thinks it should be.

I could make an excellent argument that if the US government had hired former grand wizards of the KKK to run the “Great Society” programs, and if they had worked every day from 1965 to today without rest, they could have hardly have done better in destroying black America than the “Works of God” that the government has done or is trying to do.

I have visited many countries in which the government “guarantees” that everyone has a job, a place to live, education, health care and cradle to grave “government help” for all children and families. It all sounds great except that the people in these countries are/were miserable. They wanted to escape but were forced by their governments, at the end of a gun, to stay. The “worker’s paradises” of socialist and communist counties are chilling reminders of letting governments do “God’s Work.”

The Bible clearly states that we are to help those in need. The question is “Who should help those in need?” I firmly believe that scripture and the historical evidence strongly support that individuals, private organizations and churches should be the ones doing the heavy lifting. Government help should be the last resort. “Charity,” enforced by the government, is not charity, it is extortion. “Charity,” delivered by the government, is not charity, it is a bribe which corrupts both the giver and the receiver.

Very Sincerely,

2banana


4 posted on 06/04/2008 7:49:23 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: mondoreb
It is difficult to make our material condition better by the best law, but it is easy enough to ruin it by bad laws.

When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer "Present" or "Not guilty."

- Theodore Roosevelt


5 posted on 06/04/2008 7:49:37 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: mondoreb
Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong.

It's called socialism. The GOP has been incrementally practicing this concept for years under the illusion appealing to those who depend the government for their existence is somehow considered winning.

Such a losing strategy converts a nation of predominantly givers to one of predominantly takers. Such a system can't last as evident by the fall of the USSR. Apparently the GOP hasn't learned the lesson history taught from just a few short years ago and with the aid of the socialist RATS will condemn our country to repeat that history.
6 posted on 06/04/2008 7:52:35 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: mondoreb
See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong.

John McCain and the scam of "global warming". He wants to tax you for something that does not exist. He is a thief.

7 posted on 06/04/2008 7:55:31 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: 2banana

Wow!

Excellent info and comment. Thanx!


8 posted on 06/04/2008 8:02:48 PM PDT by mondoreb
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To: JoJo Gunn

This presidential election cycle and the candidates it has presented us has gotten even an optimistic sort, such as myself, feeling a bit pessimistic about the shape of the USA in 40 years. I’ll still be around then.

Although probably running from what passes for the law and living in the woods somewhere. I’m going to have to stay in shape until I’m a 105, I guess.


9 posted on 06/04/2008 8:07:04 PM PDT by mondoreb
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To: 2banana; mondoreb
Relevant quotes from C.S.Lewis, Micheal Reagan & Ronald Reagan:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” —C.S. Lewis

“The big difference between Republicans and liberal Democrats is the way each party views people. Republicans see us as individuals and respect our God-given human dignity. To liberal Democrats, we’re not individuals; we’re members of a herd with all the dignity of a cow or pig dependent on its owner for daily rations of hay or slop. Democrats see us as being white or as blacks or as straights or as gays, or as lesbians or as heterosexuals, or as rich or poor, or as Christians or as Jews or as Muslims, or as young or as old, as working or as retired, or as housewives or as career women. They submerge us into pools that define us as members of groups instead of as what we are as God sees us—as any father sees his children—each being different from one another, and each child being a separate and distinct individual with his or her own specific talents and abilities, and all deserving of his love... This Marxist view of human nature embraces group-think, despises individuality, and seeks to eliminate all vestiges of the dignity to which every human being created in the image and likeness of God is entitled. Only the hopes and aspirations of the groups matter, and they matter solely because they create dependency on the state—which seeks to supplant God as the source of all that is good and necessary for survival.” —Michael Reagan

“An opportunity society awaits us. We need only believe in ourselves and give men and women of faith, courage, and vision the freedom to build it. Let others run down America and seek to punish success. Let them call you greedy for not wanting government to take more and more of your earnings. Let them defend their tombstone society of wage and price guidelines, mandatory quotas, tax increases, planned shortages, and shared sacrifices. We want no part of that mess, thank you very much. We will encourage all Americans—men and women, young and old, individuals of every race, creed, and color—to succeed and be healthy, happy, and whole. This is our goal. We see America not falling behind, but moving ahead; our citizens not fearful and divided, but confident and united by shared values of faith, family, work, neighborhood, peace and freedom.” —Ronald Reagan

10 posted on 06/04/2008 8:12:46 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: mondoreb
>>Systematic Legal Plunder
 
Usus Fructus.
 
 

11 posted on 06/04/2008 8:23:22 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: mondoreb

I’m in my 50’s now, and maybe it’s just because I’m older and see things differently, but I can’t ever remember such an insane Election cycle, and such masses of mindless people in denial. Never thought I’d see the DNC and GOP merge in such a fashion.

The asylum has no walls.


12 posted on 06/04/2008 8:29:57 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: 2banana
When charity is forced, it ceases to be charity, it is then coercion and in another word, taxation. Charity comes from the heart, not the government. Charity is what Churches in the Bible belt do as part of their daily lives. Voluntarily!
13 posted on 06/04/2008 8:30:58 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

I’m in my 70’s, and I agree.


14 posted on 06/04/2008 8:39:09 PM PDT by gunner03 ("03" Mustang)
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To: mondoreb

bump


15 posted on 06/04/2008 8:40:31 PM PDT by VOA
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To: JoJo Gunn

60s here and I also agree. The DDOs (dumbed down ones) are getting closer to running the country.

God please help the USA.

I really feel sorry for those coming up. They’ll never know what they missed.


16 posted on 06/04/2008 9:03:31 PM PDT by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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To: 2banana

By golly, as a frustrated Christian who hears so many think those in need are the government’s responsibility, (i.e., other people’s money bled out in taxes),you are right on.
Great comment!


17 posted on 06/04/2008 10:12:33 PM PDT by pankot
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To: mondoreb
Kelo -vs- New London was the end of the Republic. Everything else is simple infection.

When the state can steal your home for the singular purpose of reselling it for a profit, then you are no longer a citizen of a republic, you are a subject or more accurately you are chattel.

Right now inertia is keeping the merry-go-round running, but it will stall eventually.
18 posted on 06/04/2008 10:27:26 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: mondoreb

Who is John Galt ?


19 posted on 06/05/2008 3:00:54 AM PDT by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: mondoreb
The end of the Republic was set in motion upon its creation. This is manifestly evident by the nature of the 2008 election cycle. The candidates represent what would have been considered socialist & Democratic platforms a mere generation ago. Plot the points to determine the projection; the trend line becomes clear.

Now is the time for the wise to stop defending & begin feasting.

20 posted on 06/05/2008 3:18:11 AM PDT by semantic
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