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Texas High Court Saves Constitution in Polygamy Ruling
Beehive Standard Weekly ^
| June 5, 2008
| By Beehive Standard Weekly
Posted on 06/05/2008 3:57:58 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: muawiyah
You are forgetting that the higher courts left CPS in charge. They did no such thing. They ordered that the lower court order putting CPS in charge, (sort of, actually granting them custody of the children) be vacated. That was all they were asked to do in the mandamus petition, and that's what they did.
They did point out that there were actions CPS and the lower court could have taken, far short of taking all the children, that would have been within the law, implying that the judge could order those actions taken, which in part she did.
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posted on
06/06/2008 5:24:33 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: muawiyah
Sorry Sandy, the rate of breakage is quite common. That's right, it is. But CPS implied, to the press and the Court, that the breaks were due to abuse, not basketball. (Or since this is in the Texas countryside, all manner of other things boys in the country do).
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posted on
06/06/2008 5:28:51 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
Unfortunately, these boys don't do basketball. Their prophet banned balls, ride toys, dolls, rough games, etc.
Still, absent any activity that could break bones they still showed up pretty consistent with everybody else.
So, what is it that's breaking their bones?
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posted on
06/06/2008 6:10:13 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: William Tell
You did realize that Brer’ Jessop spoke in the PLURAL, so, yes.
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posted on
06/06/2008 6:12:47 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: William Tell
I wouldn't trust the F(lds) or its supporters to lead me across the street to buy a beer so why would I trust any identification they might have presented.
That's one of the reasons for the new federal standards - "all the information they had" is simply no longer acceptable.
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posted on
06/06/2008 6:15:09 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: El Gato
What they needed was a smart head to tell them to check to see if this Sarah was real, and could have inside knowledge of what was going on inside the YFZ Ranch facilities. Starting with getting the phone records of her 30-40 hours of calls to the "crisis hot line". I think you are assuming that someone at the CPS might be smart enough to do that : ) I made the same mistake when I assumed that they might have some people not governed by their emotions : (
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:23:59 PM PDT
by
LeGrande
To: muawiyah
muawiyah said:
"That's one of the reasons for the new federal standards - "all the information they had" is simply no longer acceptable. " Are you suggesting that the 26 women whose identification wasn't acceptable have since obtained ID that meets the new standard? Or did CPS finally do the job weeks after taking people into custody that they should have done within the first few hours?
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:45:30 PM PDT
by
William Tell
(RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
To: William Tell
‘tis a mystery. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to find that Texas doesn’t really care what kind of ID folks have.
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posted on
06/06/2008 9:02:33 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
So, what is it that's breaking their bones? They are boys, they live on a 1700 acre ranch in pretty rough country.
You figure it out.
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posted on
06/07/2008 4:28:24 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: muawiyah
I wouldn't trust the F(lds) or its supporters to lead me across the street to buy a beer so why would I trust any identification they might have presented. CPS and the LEOs don't need to trust it, they can verify it with a simple phone call or computer inquiry. They apparently did not bother, else they'd have found that the IDs were valid, and the "underage girls" were adults, just as the women said.
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posted on
06/07/2008 4:35:33 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
I figured out part of it - the boys are not allowed the liberty to wander the camp at will. All activity was highly controlled. The girls suffered bone breakage at a rate normal for boys.
That's why I asked you for the rest of the equation.
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posted on
06/07/2008 7:49:33 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
Farming is extremely hazardous.
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posted on
06/07/2008 8:16:23 PM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
To: patton
Particularly if you are a child working in the fields for the F(lds).
My understanding is their agricultural activity involves gardening, not commercial farming.
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posted on
06/07/2008 8:50:08 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: mouser
LOL!
You think that the picture of Jessop kissing a 12 year old girl won’t be admitted?
LOL!
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posted on
06/08/2008 2:16:06 PM PDT
by
JRochelle
(Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
To: JRochelle
That should say Jeffs, not Jessop.
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posted on
06/08/2008 2:17:03 PM PDT
by
JRochelle
(Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
To: LeGrande; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; ...
This article is so over the top, it seems like it is a prody.
But they are serious. I don't know where that paper is from but since it is called the Beehive, I will assume it is from somewhere in Mormon Country. Not suprising that some Mormons have turned into Molester Defenders, after all their first Prophet molested 2 14 year old girls. Bird of a feather......
From the article: They should punish CPS to wear the badge of intolerance that they have so rightly earned. Every CPS member should have to wear a swastika for just a day to remind them of how easy it is to be part of a larger group that seems to be in the right in the sway and passion of the moment, only to be "found out" when the evidence comes rolling in.
Sounds like something the Danites would approve of.
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posted on
06/08/2008 2:31:26 PM PDT
by
JRochelle
(Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
To: JRochelle
The first sentence should say PARODY!
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posted on
06/08/2008 2:33:17 PM PDT
by
JRochelle
(Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
To: LeGrande
Consider the source.
Several of our readers have asked for the Beehive Standard Weekly to speak out on the recent raids on polygamists in Texas. Uniquely, our staff consists of lawyers who also happen to be Mormon, who also happen to be journalists. To that end, perhaps we can’t avoid having or expressing an opinion.
http://beehivestandardweekly.com/articles/191/1/Why-The-Polygamy-Raid-Was-Wrong
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posted on
06/08/2008 3:12:15 PM PDT
by
JRochelle
(Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
To: JRochelle
Can you name a single allegation that you or the CPS has made regarding the FLDS at YFZ that has been demonstrated to be true?
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posted on
06/08/2008 3:19:40 PM PDT
by
LeGrande
To: LeGrande
Child molesting?
As in child brides?
Did not Willie come out and say they won’t do it ANYMORE?
Is that not an admission of past guilt?
Did we not see the leader Jeffs frenching a 12 year old? Do those cultists not think he is perfect and what he did was not wrong?
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posted on
06/08/2008 3:27:04 PM PDT
by
JRochelle
(Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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