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Texas High Court Saves Constitution in Polygamy Ruling
Beehive Standard Weekly ^ | June 5, 2008 | By Beehive Standard Weekly

Posted on 06/05/2008 3:57:58 PM PDT by LeGrande

The lies to justify this outrageous behavior started from the beginning. First, it was an affidavit from police officers about the children all being in danger to the brain-washing culture of the FLDS. Then it was the accusation that bedsheets were found "used" in the FLDS temple. Then it was the alleged discovery of dozens of pregnant underage girls.
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Bit-by-bit we have seen the accusations made by law enforcement to support their Nazi-like detainment of a religious group and confinement of others lose credibility. First, we learned that these underage pregnant women were actually adults -- in one case a 27 year old woman.
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CPS immediately filed an appeal to the Texas Supreme Court. Most telling was the request of the Texas Supreme Court in asking CPS if they had any more evidence than that which was found on the record. In other words, the Texas Supreme Court was saying to CPS "You're kidding us right? You've got to have more evidence to justify your stupid behavior than what you have presented to us."

The Court gave CPS two more days to submit more proof. When they couldn't present any more supporting evidence, the Texas Supreme Court handed down the equivalent of a condemnation to CPS and a stern word or two for the judge who had allowed the action against the FLDS families.
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Instead of being ashes in the ruins of their temple, the FLDS now have the opportunity to collect millions from the taxpayers of Texas for the religious intolerance shown to them. The stories that could be told to a jury would break the hearts of even the coldest of jury members.
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The greatest harm done here was the breach of trust. The government has the absolute authority to act absolutely, and without check upon authority and power. This is the very thing that the founding father's feared.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constitution; cps; flds; jeffs; ruling
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1 posted on 06/05/2008 3:58:01 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

This has turned into Short Creek, AZ, all over again.


2 posted on 06/05/2008 4:15:17 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: LeGrande

The bottom line is that yes, abusive and illegal behavior was going on there. And that when you bust up something like that you have to have your ducks in a row ahead of time, and do everything by the numbers.

In the military, a screw up like this would be blamed on “PPPP”, and a lot of officers involved would have been relieved for incompetence. And a lot of NCOs for not stepping in and telling the officers they were screwing up.

As it is, injustice abounds. The innocent will be punished and the guilty will get away. Lawyers will have a field day, and the resulting embarrassment will allow other crimes like this to go unpunished in the future.


3 posted on 06/05/2008 4:23:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: LeGrande
Bit-by-bit we have seen the accusations made by law enforcement to support their Nazi-like detainment of a religious group and confinement of others lose credibility

Things like this is why government agencies like law enforcement is no longer believed.

Not sure if they are just confused or thought they would make their case better by distorting facts.

4 posted on 06/05/2008 4:29:29 PM PDT by mouser (run the rats out its the only hope we have)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I think that about sums it up. The FLDS just got a get out of jail free card and Texas is going to foot a great big bill.


5 posted on 06/05/2008 4:30:42 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
Maybe, just maybe folks will start waking up to the culture of "cops can do no wrong" that has become very prevalent here in the U.S. This entire event has a bad smell to it from the beginning that was obvious. But anyone that tried to point out the errors and inconsistencies got called "cult defender," "molestation supporter," "heterosexual NAMBLA member" and many others that are equally ignorant.
6 posted on 06/05/2008 4:35:21 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: LeGrande

First, we learned that these underage pregnant women were actually adults — in one case a 27 year old woman.

Actually first thing we learned was that they were raided on a warrant for a woman who dose not exist who was being abused by a man not there.


7 posted on 06/05/2008 4:36:33 PM PDT by mouser (run the rats out its the only hope we have)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Hey, now. Sometimes the officers ignore the NCO’s.


8 posted on 06/05/2008 4:40:06 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: mouser

The oldest adult detained as an underage mother is actually 37.


9 posted on 06/05/2008 4:41:14 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: LeGrande

“When they couldn’t present any more supporting evidence, the Texas Supreme Court handed down the equivalent of a condemnation to CPS and a stern word or two for the judge who had allowed the action against the FLDS families.”

That ‘judge’ shouldn’t be a judge in any courtroom.


10 posted on 06/05/2008 4:44:30 PM PDT by Will88
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To: mouser
Not sure if they are just confused or thought they would make their case better by distorting facts.

I think the CPS believed the hoax call. If Sarah had existed, and if they had gotten evidence to support the abuse against her, then the CPS would be looking like heroes right now.

But when it turned out that Sarah didn't exist, it turned into one big desperate CYA operation with the CPS escalating the situation at every step in a futile attempt to make a case.

The CPS needed a cool head to tell them to back off when they didn't find Sarah, but there is no convincing a True Believer and they were all suffering from True Believer Syndrome.

11 posted on 06/05/2008 4:45:19 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: patton

That would appear as evidence at the GCM.


12 posted on 06/05/2008 4:50:52 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

yep. Having only been an NCO, I asked a LTC buddy of mine the other day, “Where you scared of the CSM as a LT?”

He said, “Heck, I was scared of him as a LTC!”


13 posted on 06/05/2008 4:54:25 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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The oldest adult detained as an underage mother is actually 37.


Curious..... I thought the articles I read stated she was 27 to be 28 in a couple of weeks from when they were written. The one you are talking of is a different mother who was older?.....


14 posted on 06/05/2008 4:55:52 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: deport

Oy, I linked it yesterday, don’t ask me to go find it now.

Yes, one 37-yo woman was held as a minor, until CPS could establish that she was actually 37.

TX is gonna looooose that lawsuit, no kidding.


15 posted on 06/05/2008 4:59:39 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: LeGrande

Thanks for posting this. Remember when CPS came out and made the big announcement about all the boys with broken bones? That turned out to be a lie, too. Lie after lie. And the media never has set the record straight and I guess never will. Bill O’Reilly is still yelling something about “sex slaves”.


16 posted on 06/05/2008 5:05:58 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: LeGrande

I just can’t get over it that some FReepers were pro-raid and rounding up all the children at gunpoint. It just blows my mind.


17 posted on 06/05/2008 5:08:19 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: patton

TX is gonna looooose that lawsuit, no kidding.


Yep may happen big time but the outcome will publish to the world the FLDS and how they operate as it all gets drug through the court trial testimony.... It will be interesting I’m sure. Transparency is the way to go for all concerned, state and FLDS.


18 posted on 06/05/2008 5:08:45 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: LeGrande; norton

“When CPS and its henchmen crashed the FLDS compound with tanks and machine guns, it was a lowly moment in religious freedom within the United States. Anyone with a brain could have fashioned a more measured approach.”

Oh, no, they went and called it a tank again.


19 posted on 06/05/2008 5:10:07 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: deport

One girl was found to be 14, never pregnant, never married, yet she was held with all the poor female souls labeled as “jail bait”. Several adult women were held against their will - can you say “false imprisonment”?


20 posted on 06/05/2008 5:12:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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