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Just teh tip of the iceberg on how America of 2008 is so different from the America the founding fathers had in mind.
1 posted on 06/07/2008 4:14:54 AM PDT by SLB
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2 posted on 06/07/2008 4:16:48 AM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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Perhaps they thought if they tried to help him and he died, they would be sued.


3 posted on 06/07/2008 4:22:14 AM PDT by montag813
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The police chief is absolutely right and this is the result of the liberal insistence on jettisoning transcendent truth (i.e. God) from our society. Moral relativism which the vast majority of people under 50 have been spoon-fed has just about replaced God, thus, I'm under no moral obligation to do anything for anyone but myself. How sick and how sad.

This is indeed a troubling event.

4 posted on 06/07/2008 4:25:20 AM PDT by mek1959
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Some did call 911, but what’s strange and sad is that no one wanted to go near the poor man. And the traffic didn’t stop.


5 posted on 06/07/2008 4:26:12 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Noon 06/07/08, who don't we appreciate? Hillary!)
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America has become a people that are self-centered, selfish, ego-centric, and cold-hearted.

Our souls are broken.

Barack would never allow this to happen.

6 posted on 06/07/2008 4:28:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (May 17 was my Tenth Anniversary on FR)
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The moral of the story is not to get hit by a car around a bunch of liberals.


7 posted on 06/07/2008 4:28:36 AM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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America of 2008 is so different from the America the founding fathers had in mind

Or even 60 years ago. Of course back then America was full of "evil white racist" even though law and order was much more the rule of the day. Not that it was perfect but funny how we didn't need metal detectors, cameras on every corner, electronic ID's, Naked X-ray machines, "pay before you pump" etc. We were really backward in those days.

8 posted on 06/07/2008 4:29:13 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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If you watch closely you see one of the “people” who approached him getting a pic with his cell phone.


9 posted on 06/07/2008 4:29:53 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (When the rapture comes, can I have your stuff?)
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I'm still the grownup my parents raised me to be: I'd have been immediately helping that poor man. I've studied that phenomena, up close and from a distance -- feeling "uncomfortable" helping another. I gave that thing a name about 20 years ago, I called it "chic tag". Folks are worried about: getting sued; or being late to work; or stuck for hours having to take responsibility for another human's "life drama". It's just not "cool" or copesthetic to their life "focus" and drains their "energy".

They've obviously forgotten the thermodynamics of energy, and if philosophers - they've forgotten how karma/dharma works. If they are religious, one has to question what their religion upholds.

But helping another is the most basic building block of any civilization.

It's possible in Hartford, too many crying wolfs of "hardship" (poverty, minority, female, blah blah) have deadened people to even remotely wanting to be involved.

There's nothing "chic" about playing "tag" through avoiding a situation which has one's name directly on it.

Life plays out for each of us; sometimes it has our name on it; sometimes we are to be witnesses. But when we ignore what the call is, and act accordingly, we buy ourselves a pack of trouble; often having no idea why in years to come our lives are so bedeviled.

Chic Tag (pretending it's someone else's responsibility when in fact it is YOURS) is no laughing matter, truly.

Chic Tag takes place in deadbeat parent syndrome -- assuming the government will "pay" and take care of your children. Chic Tag takes place in Hollywood where stars ignore the real hardships among themselves, but prate so lofty before the cameras. Chic tag takes place in the home, where others assume the "maid" will clean up that mess.

Chic tag destroys and devastates, negatively altering and impacting environments and lives. Chic tag took place in New Orleans during Katrina, where local officials refused to do what was right, preferring instead to blame the Federal government.

Chic tag runs Obama's campaign; offering platitudes instead of real downright plans.

Chic tag is ugly.

10 posted on 06/07/2008 4:30:27 AM PDT by Alia
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A very similiar situation occured to our family just 3 weeks ago.

We were on the way to Southwestern Seminary for a conference when we hit some traffic on 290 near Fairfield (NW)of Houston). I thought it was road construction. As we stopped and started and came to the top of an overpass (hundreds of cars passing...mind you) we saw the reason for the delay...a smashed up car...which had been creamed by a goose-neck truck and trailer. It was sitting in the middle of the highway and traffic was going (squeezing) b/w it and the concrete barricades on the overpass..since it was sitting sideways on the middle stripe.

There were no cops...only the truck...100 yds down the road...and the car...and a little old lady who had seen it happen. My wife and I...along with 3 kids (8, 6 and 4 mo) decided to stop. We activated our emergency OnStar and my wife gave details as I ran back to the scene...avoiding all the cars as they made their way past the accident.

I got to the trucker...he was OK and doing paperwork! I got to the old lady and she was trying to work her cell...and I asked her if anyone was in the car...expecting the answer to be no...because surely someone would be helping. She said yes.

I ran to the car...and in it was a 17 yr old kid (found his D.L. later) half-dead....bleeding and sprawled over his front seat....glass everywhere.

Meanwhile...an 18 wheeler was trying to squeeze b/w the wreck and the barricade. I put a stop to that as I checked the guys ABC's. The trucker stopped...gave me a dirty look that I had dared stop him on a busy run as I tried to save this kids life in the middle of the road...and then proceeded to sit there and talk on his CB 20 feet away from me as I tried to keep the kid stable until the EMS arrived. Only 1 other person got out (off) of their vehicle...a biker. They sat life-flight down on the highway by the wreck.

Needless to say...I had a big wake up call about the "good samaritan" thing. If you think it exists in Houston, TX...think again. Hundreds of people drove past that kid as he laid dying and only a little old lady stopped so she could call 911. Nobody else lifted a finger.

12 posted on 06/07/2008 4:40:46 AM PDT by NELSON111
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City officials later acknowledged that police received four 911 calls immediately after the incident, and release portions of two calls on Friday.

Typical "journalist". Get's it wrong again.

14 posted on 06/07/2008 4:42:58 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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...no excuses for this.....BUT....I expect the pedestrians were hesitant to help for fear of getting run over themselves....motorists should have stopped immediately and hit their emergency flashers....that would have stopped until help arrived.


16 posted on 06/07/2008 4:47:29 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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That’s a really sad story. And it reminds me of a case from 1964, that was a harbinger of this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese


19 posted on 06/07/2008 4:54:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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>>>>Pedestrians gawk but do nothing. One driver stops briefly but then pulls back into traffic. A man on a scooter slowly circles the victim before zipping away.<<<

Hartford has a big illegals population and is a sanctuary city, and to me this sounds like the behavior of illegals.


22 posted on 06/07/2008 4:56:05 AM PDT by angkor (The Elephant In The Conservative/GOP Living Room isn't RINOs, it'shis The Religionists.)
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"Just the tip of the iceberg on how America of 2008 is so different from the America the founding fathers had in mind."

Take a look at all the liberals and their candidates Obama and Hillary. Their mantra is screw the people of Iraq, we could be spending that money on free stuff for ourselves. They literally say this! Amazingly selfish they are.

23 posted on 06/07/2008 4:56:47 AM PDT by avacado
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I saw the news coverage and it was sickening.

Pray for the poor man who was jujured, but also pray for the people who ignored him. They both need prayers, but for very different reasons.


24 posted on 06/07/2008 4:58:36 AM PDT by khnyny (Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy)
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“City officials later acknowledged that police received four 911 calls immediately after the incident, and release portions of two calls on Friday.”

Sounds to me like there were a number of people that called for help.
I doubt anyone of the “bystanders” were capable of helping in any medical capacity.
In the video you see a man stop a vehicle, maybe to ask them to call 911. Another car pulls to the side, maybe to call 911.
Text from one of the calls says the caller was pleading for help to come quickly.
Yea, some scumbags looked and left. That will happen anywhere in this day and age. But there were immediate calls for help.
Also, the article states that this poor guy was just leaving a grocery after buying some milk. You will notice in the video that he is carrying nothing. Not that this has any bearing on the story. It’s just a part of the story that isn’t fact. The initial part of the story leads you to believe nobody did anything. This is patently false.


27 posted on 06/07/2008 5:00:19 AM PDT by mark3681
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Take heart, Layla. There are decent Americans.

I routinely call 911 on my cell phone when I see someone having difficulty--e.g. a flat tire on the interstate etc. (BTW, note the location before calling.)

But you're right. Many Americans have lost their moral compass.

A strong current of decadence has infected Western Civilization and threatens to destroy it. It is The Left. And it has done terrible damage to America's moral compass.

Children are sexualized.

Drug abuse is rampant.

Physicians are forced to pay more attention to litigation than to healing the sick and preventing illness.

The rights of criminals often override the rights of decent citizens not to become victims of crime.

Evidently, politicians and elected officials consider themselves powerless to enforce U.S. laws and stop illegal immigration.

In the U.S.A. especially, litigation is a powerful part of it. Many people are afraid to get involved when someone is in distress--notably some traffic accident. They could be sued by the very person they want to help--their savings stolen from them, their lives destroyed, themselves tied up in litigation for years.

Remember when doctors' cars had "MD" signs attached, so that they could stop and help injured people? A doctor would be nuts to display such a sign today. He'd be sued for stopping. He'd be sued for not stopping. He'd be a sitting duck.

Remember the days when the discovery of a rare animal on your property was cause for photographs--letting your children take it to school--considerable interest? Today people kill every one of them they can find, because if it's an "endangered species" their property is suddenly tied up in restrictions, is subject to monitoring by "environmentalist" bullies, and its value drops to zilch.

Yes, a strong current of decadence threatens America, but we're far better off than the people in most Western nations. And, despite the decadence that threatens them, most people are good at heart.

32 posted on 06/07/2008 5:20:06 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The de facto motto of the Democrat Party: "God, damn America!")
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America has a moral compass. Just ask the government to give you one for free so you can find your way. They’ll make some undeserving, “winner of life’s lottery”, rich oppressor pay for it.


35 posted on 06/07/2008 5:32:23 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Fools get what they deserve in the end. You are responsible for the government that enslaves you.)
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In Alabama, the guy would have had a fund at the local band and a plastic jug on the counter at the local convenience store before he hit the ground...


38 posted on 06/07/2008 5:42:36 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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