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Clintonite rage could burn Democratic hope
The Denver Post ^ | June 8, 2008 | Susan Greene

Posted on 06/08/2008 12:41:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sacha Millstone is nobody's sweetie.

The Democratic insider will stand up at August's national convention and cast her vote for the candidate who suspended her bid on Saturday. And then Millstone will quit the party with which she is falling bitterly out of line.

"This isn't sour grapes. This is about the best candidate losing the nomination because she's a woman. It's the most blatant example of sexism in our society. This is about the party breaking my trust, women's trust. And that can't be fixed," she says.

Millstone hails the day in 2007 when Hillary Clinton announced she was smart enough, qualified enough and tough enough to be president.

"I had never heard those words come out of a woman's mouth and neither had anyone else," says the 49-year-old Boulder investment adviser who has spent 16 months volunteering on Clinton's national finance committee.

She pounded the pavement for 20 days in Iowa. And she has raised more than $300,000 for the campaign.

The shattering of Millstone's party loyalty came with what she deemed an all-out assault on Clinton "because she's a woman."

She winced when one biographer referred to Clinton's "thick ankles." She grumbled when NPR's political analyst likened the senator to the scorned stalker in "Fatal Attraction." And she grew incensed when talking-head Tucker Carlson said the mere sight of Clinton makes him "involuntarily cross my legs."

Millstone blames Barack Obama and party leaders for not rallying to Clinton's defense. And she slams them for trying to nudge the former first lady out of the race:

"That never would have happened if she were a man."

The final blow came last weekend, when Millstone stood in the rain protesting outside the hotel where party brass passed rules that she says threw Clinton overboard.

"First let me say that I have never been this angry in my life," she wrote in a dispatch from D.C.

There is no arguing with Millstone about whether Clinton was the most viable Democrat. She is unwavering that sexism cost her the race. Gender is the prism through which she views all things political. Any woman who doesn't, she says, is "deaf and blind."

History no doubt will have much to say about the attacks — both sexist and racist — that besmirched the 2008 primary race. And the party will spend years soul-searching about the jumbled rules by which it picks its nominees. Time will tell how many Clintonites ultimately flee the party.

Which brings me to Millstone's peculiar brand of identity politics and a group of feminists in the John Irving novel "The World According to Garp." In solidarity with Ellen James, a young girl whose tongue was cut off in a brutal rape, the so-called "Ellen Jamesians" cut out their tongues in symbolic protest.

Call me deaf and blind, as Millstone did more than once during our interview. But there is nothing at all feminist about quitting the party, refusing to vote Obama and threatening to back John McCain or any other candidate who opposes the values that drew devotees to Clinton in the first place.

Rather, it is the kind of hollow, self-defeating political overreaction that invokes the very stereotypes that cause women like Millstone to rise up in outrage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrat; democrats; election; elections; gender; hillary; liberalagenda; liberals; liberalvalues; mccain; obama; sexism; womanpresident
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To: Nonstatist
“People with Cankles” should be a new group for entitlement programs.

Every application for a job should have a box to check off...Cankles Y or N” .

Will we ever have a president with Cankles? Is the republican tent big enough for Cankles?

61 posted on 06/08/2008 6:52:51 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s reply to these women was as follows:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SYkPpThfp7k

In my opinion, Obama does come across as very sexist. I’ve known for 25 years not to call a woman “Sweetie.”

He also came across as very condescending towards Hillary. I just don’t see how feminist could support him.

One thing that is 100% certain — John McCain has been far more respectful of Hillary over the years than Obama has been in the primaries.


62 posted on 06/08/2008 6:55:34 AM PDT by boycott
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To: ishabibble

What an election this will be! The winner will be determined by whether more Democrats hate the Democrat nominee or more Republicans hate the Republican nominee. Has there ever been another like it?


63 posted on 06/08/2008 6:57:57 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’m not comparing the two candidates. This female voter is exactly like the McCain haters right here on FR.

She and the McCain haters didn’t get their candidates so they are perfectly comfortable watching the opposition win.

A true conservative would go through hellfire to see that a marxist like obama wasn’t elected dogcatcher let alone occupy the White House.


64 posted on 06/08/2008 6:59:40 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: surelyclintonsbaddream

“Find a Margaret Thatcher here and she could be voted in.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I believe that, in fact I would vote for a Thatcher type woman, I believe there are women who would make a good potus but I don’t believe Hillary is one. I also believe there are black men who would make a good President but I am CERTAIN Obama is not one. I am convinced that with all his faults George W. Bush has more ability than the entire Democrat party. Note that I am the same man who keeps saying women should not have the vote, I say this not because I think they are all stupid but because I see all too many who allow their emotions to rule over their minds and I consider Hillary Clinton to be a prime example. I humbly salute those who use their brains rather than responding emotionally to every question.


65 posted on 06/08/2008 7:10:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: ImpBill; Carley
Mitch McConnel is doing extremely important work in one of those "three equal branches" of which you speak to shine the light on the watermelon marxism (green on the outside, red on the inside) of the cap-and-trade bill.

Unfortuantely, Mitch is a member of the GOP, and the only method of realizing the balancing power of the senate rules is with a solid, unified 40+ vote minority to block the road to tyranny.

You can rest assured that the enemies of the republic will always join together in a strong "coalition" party, and notwithstanding Washington's or Eisenhower's admonitions, you've GOT to have an opposition party for the designed-in gridlock to function.

So vote your conscience, but keep in mind that voting down-ticket is critical, regardless of how you vote for or against McPain.

Like it or not, if Obama wins, it will be called a landslide, he will be said to have a "mandate" for nearly anything shy of nationalizing industry, he will have large coattails in Congress, the popular perception will be that conservatism is dead, and there will be no political support for Congresscritters (like Mcconnel) to base their opposition to his policies or his Supreme Court appointees.

66 posted on 06/08/2008 7:11:55 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Amen!


67 posted on 06/08/2008 7:13:38 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am reading all of this about how so many hillary people won’t vote for obama and how so many of the blue collar Dem’s won’t vote for him and Mccain is leading among Independents. what I can’t figure out is why national polls show BO winning?!?!


68 posted on 06/08/2008 7:20:16 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hehehhe...I like that headline...Clintonite Rage...hmmmmm sounds like the making of a bumper sticker! My next door neighbor is fuming over Hitlery’s lost. Don't know if she'll vote for McPain though. Liberals are so easily deceived by the OsAMAmessiah he'll take care of that!!
69 posted on 06/08/2008 7:21:20 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas

70 posted on 06/08/2008 7:27:06 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: lexusppd
They ARE moon bats, by your very definition.

Well there are moonbats and then there are MOONBATS!!...

71 posted on 06/08/2008 7:38:26 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Hardastarboard
Everybody who plays the "race and gender" game knows that blacks, male and female, are lower on the socioeconomic scale than white women (see what I learned from Sociology?

It depends. West Indian blacks in the U.S. are higher on the socioeconomic scale than their white age cohorts.
72 posted on 06/08/2008 7:45:55 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ok ok, Obama’s got a weinie girly build. Now do you feel better, someone has dissed his looks.
Can someone tell these people to GET OVER IT?!


73 posted on 06/08/2008 7:46:41 AM PDT by Sparky7450 (Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others.)
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To: verga; knarf; ComputerGuy

You three did an awesome job with your posts!


74 posted on 06/08/2008 8:04:10 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: jimbo123
THAT is the picture of a man who could kill.
75 posted on 06/08/2008 8:08:57 AM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: All
For what it's worth....The Dems have something on Hillary AND IT'S BIG...And if it ever got out...It would take out half of the top dogs in the party.

Think about Spitzer...All of a sudden, we found out about a 7 year old and running secret.....but I'm sure there were 50 people who knew....

76 posted on 06/08/2008 8:31:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (N)
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To: ImpBill

I have only one priority. The well being of our troops.

Without national security we have nothing.


77 posted on 06/08/2008 8:43:21 AM PDT by Carley
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To: sam_paine; Carley
I am certain we have much we agree upon.

National Defense is one such issue, however I am of the mind that we can never again deploy our military into combat without the Constitutionally required "Declaration of War". Without it the "politicians" have to much wiggle room to squander the mission of war; Victory in the shortest time with the lowest cost in men, materiel, and money, by the earliest total destruction of our enemy!

We had that desire on 9/12/01, but failed to follow through.

I don't know what it will presently take, given the situation we find ourselves, in the Middle East, but somewhere down the line if we are to really "win" militarily Congress is going to have to send a Declaration of War to the President for his signature, which will put the entire Republic at war. Then an only then, IMHO, can and will we do what is necessary to WIN!

78 posted on 06/08/2008 9:30:54 AM PDT by ImpBill (Hi, My name is Greg and I am a recovering "R"epublican! And I have recovered into a "r"epublican.)
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To: Carley
I have only one priority. The well being of our troops. Without national security we have nothing.

Amen, Thank you for bringing that back into focus for me.

79 posted on 06/08/2008 9:32:11 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: boycott

I wuz in a bar in EXTREME eastern MT a few weeks ago and got called Hon by the barmaid (~25 yr old) multiple times. It was kinda funny.


80 posted on 06/08/2008 9:35:33 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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