England is the new france...
Posted on 06/12/2008 10:38:22 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
In February this year, Christian evangelists Arthur Cunningham and Joseph Abraham were doing what Christian evangelists do: handing out Bible extracts. They were stopped by a representative of the law, threatened with arrest if they carried on preaching in “a Muslim area,” and warned that they might get beaten up if they came back.
Where did this incident take place? Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Pakistan, where Christian preaching is forbidden and apostates persecuted? No, this “Muslim area” was in Alum Rock, Birmingham, England. That’s right — England, cradle of free speech; England, a country with an established, if enfeebled, Church, and where seventy-five percent of citizens (at the 2001 census) describe themselves as Christian. The man who stopped the evangelists, calling their preaching a “hate crime,” was Naeem Naguthney, a police community support officer (PCSO), and a Muslim. Granted, a PCSO is not a full police officer, and has only limited powers of law enforcement. But which law was he enforcing? It looks suspiciously like Sharia.
This is not the first time an English “Muslim area” has hit the news. In 2006, Muslim preacher Abu Izzadeen expressed outrage that then-Home Secretary John Reid was visiting “a Muslim area”: East London. Yet when the bishop of Rochester recently warned that Britain was developing Muslim no-go areas, he was denounced by Muslims as — what else? — Islamophobic. Many non-Muslims joined in the condemnation. Others argued that the no-go areas were ideological, rather than literal, but this argument rather misses the point: Islam is, and always has been, territorial.
The choice of words — “Muslim area” — is significant. Non-Muslims are not merely told that their behavior might upset or anger Muslims, but that they themselves are on Muslim soil, where such behavior is forbidden. As I have argued before, Islam is concerned far more with territory than with piety. Do the young Muslimahs in the picture below look pious? Or are they belligerently defending their turf?
Each niqab allowed in the workplace, each new mosque, each “hate-speech law” is, as London’s new Mayor Boris Johnson put it, “another yard of territory in the kulturkampf of modern Britain.”
Alum Rock has, in accordance with the tenets of jihad, been claimed for the Dar al-Islam. And once Islam has claimed an area, that area cannot be taken back without a fight. So, are we going to give them a fight? And fight not only the enemy, but those who appear to have sided with them: West Midlands Police?
West Midlands Police have not apologized, and instead of sacking Naguthney immediately, they have merely given him training on the nature of “hate crimes.” Such craven appeasement of Muslims is not unprecedented: it was the West Midlands Police force which tried to prosecute Channel 4, whose excellent TV documentary Undercover Mosque revealed the open sedition and hatred of the West preached in our mosques. That prosecution failed, but for now West Midlands Police must be seen as accomplices, albeit perhaps unwitting, in the jihad against our country.
Mr. Cunningham and Mr. Abraham have fired the first shots in the counter-jihad: they are demanding a full and unreserved written apology from West Midlands Police, and have given notice that they regard this incident as a breach of their convention rights under the 1998 Human Rights Act. They are supported by the Christian Institute pressure group, and by Christian Voice, which plans to leaflet the area this weekend.
Outside this immediate battle, how do we fight the territorial expansion of Islam? My answer is simply not to accept that there are “no-go areas”: just go there. Libby Purves, writing recently in the London Times on the dangers of walking around London late at night, makes points that apply to all “no-go areas,” Muslim or not:
I am not foolhardy; I stay away from alleys and don’t flash jewelery. But I know parts of London in particular to be increasingly dangerous, and with growing caution comes growing rage. I will not be kept cringing indoors, not by day or night; nor should any man or woman in a free country.
It was another woman, Eleanor Roosevelt, who said: “Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.” So we, men and women, should not grant that permission, and should not pander to the assumed superiority of those who would intimidate us, whether thugs or Muslims or both.
Turning to “Muslim no-go areas”, here is my advice: just go there. Look those niqab-clad women in the eye — it is all you can look them in — and raise a quizzical eyebrow at their alien garb.
Look with contempt at their “masters” swaggering along in jeans two steps in front of them.
Above all, just go there.
England is the new france...
Canadian intelligence has issued at least two damning reports against Canada’s open door policy for jihadists. The reports named terrorists that were allowed entry and warned that Canadians would be targets of terrorists unless the policy stopped.
Maybe the Canadians listened?
You will not be alone.
Flamethrowers are one possible remedy to the situation.
Yet again another thread to use to bash us English. There may well be a few isolated insodents such as this in Britain no doubt there are some in America, maybe they just do not get reported as the local people do not want it known it happens.
I can assure you the majority of British people speak out and do not cour in fear as so many on this board suggest.
Just read the comments on this website regarding a news article yesterday this website one of our internet service providers.
There are 20 plus pages of comments and the majority are pretty firm in what they think should happen.
Because it is a hate-crime to say anything negative about it. Haven’t you been following the Steyn/McClean proceedings?
> That’s alright..it’s England. We need to sacrifice the cowards while we re-load Stateside.
>
> They made their own bed, now they have to sleep in it.
Tuff talk like that ought to be saved for when you Yanks have sorted out your Illegal Alien problem. You’re being invaded and taken over by the Mexicans without a bullet being fired in anger. Cowardice? Yeah, I guess that label kind of fits...
But, you’re making your own bed, and soon you will have to sleep in it.
> That was my thought exactly. They brought this on themselves and are, in effect, volunteering to demonstrate to the world what happens when Islam slowly engulfs a non-Islamic country.
And America, naturally, will demonstrate to the world what happens when Mexicans slowly engulf a non-Mexican country.
Of the two, I would say America is closer to being engulfed by a foreign power than the UK is. And the crazy thing is that people like you just don’t seem to get it.
> The fact that you folks are disarmed and overflowing with uneducated and hostile mohammedans has sealed your doom.
Right, so what’s America’s excuse? You’re armed to the teeth and still you’re overflowing with uneducated and hostile (illegal and often criminally-inclined) Mexicans.
I predict that Spanish will be an official language in America within a decade — and much sooner in many of your individual states.
> I’m 37 and before my naturally alloted span of years has passed, I fully expect to face death for refusing to kneel before the demonic deity of the mohammedans.
You’re more likely to be shot in a drive-by from a car filled with illegal immigrants, long before your allotted span.
Britain’s problem with Muslims pales in comparison to America’s problem with illegal immigrants. This is not something that the US can afford to be smug about.
“I predict that Spanish will be an official language in America within a decade — and much sooner in many of your individual states.”
____________________________________________________________
I agree with your prediction, but I think it will take awhile longer, and at first, it will occur in isolated communities.
Mrs. Mugwump teaches music in some of the most illegal-heavy areas of Los Angeles, and I frequently accompany her to help out (I’m retired).
There is no doubt that people is southern California will have to have a functional knowledge of Spanish to do just about anything — probably within the ten years you cite.
As to making it official, I think the City of L.A. will vote it in first, followed by many surrounding communities. The end result will see the state establish a Spanish-only law, probably after the northern part of the state secedes and establishes itself as a new one.
Surprisingly, though, for all this, there is surprisingly little hostility out there (during the day, at least). I think most people know that their position is one of strength, and they have no need (yet) to go after Anglos. The blacks are a different story, however. Lou Baca, L.A. county Sheriff came out yesterday and said there are increasingly tense race relations not related to gangs.
We are indeed headed for interesting times. I believe the British are being just as studiously ignored by their ruling classes as we are. We just don’t count anymore.
Being thought of as a peasant makes me very angry. I’ve known serious hard times, and I don’t like the prospect of enduring them again in my dotage.
Smug? Not quite.
I know how dangerous criminal aliens are, but the current threat from them is random and unfocused. They are a threat, but not quite as immediate and certain as the mohammedans. I’d be glad to see them all rounded up and forced back across the rio grande or wherever they came from, but they aren’t actively seeking to murder anyone who isn’t them. Not yet at least, but that could change in time.
I could just as easily be shot in the back by a crackhead breaking into the house or mugged by some piece of filth who decides to leave no witnesses. Random violence is a normal part of life.
The mohammedans are focused and motivated by religious zeal. They are a clear and present danger that can’t be ignored. And yet, they ARE being ignored and are being allowed to build indoctrination centers and enclaves where they can operate with impunity. Once they reach critical mass, the french riots and the Dutch murders will become a common occurance here and anyone not a mohammedan will be a target, to be raped or killed unless those targets convert.
And it will happen in the next 35-40 years, guaranteed. No place is safe, not England, not America, not New Zealand.
So no, I’m not smug, I’m heartbroken knowing what is coming.
people like me?
what kind of people is that?
Tuff talk like that ought to be saved for when you Yanks have sorted out your Illegal Alien problem. You’re being invaded and taken over by the Mexicans without a bullet being fired in anger. Cowardice? Yeah, I guess that label kind of fits..
*****
Our illegals DONT blow up people in the name of Allah, and have us face Mecca 5 times a day. Good luck on that.
> Our illegals DONT blow up people in the name of Allah, and have us face Mecca 5 times a day. Good luck on that.
I guess you’re right: your illegals don’t do these things. So remind me again why America has not already dealt decisively to this relatively-tame foreign invasion on your soil? You’ve got all the guns you could ever want, and you’ve got laws and a Constitution, too: you are without excuse.
You mentioned the word “Cowardice” with reference to the Poms and their immigrant problem. What would be the proper label to describe yours?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.