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Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

AND A BIG HAT TIP TO Liberty2007!!!!..........

1 posted on 06/16/2008 10:04:19 AM PDT by Red Badger
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TURBINE HUMMER PING!..............


2 posted on 06/16/2008 10:05:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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And word's getting out. In the corner of his office sits Arnold Schwarzenegger's 1987 Jeep Wagoneer, which Goodwin is converting to biodiesel; soon, Neil Young will be shipping him a 1960 Lincoln Continental to transform into a biodiesel--electric hybrid.

I heard about this guy a few months back, with most of the thread devoted to the "it will never work" stone age mindset. Here's hoping he blows everyone out of the water.
3 posted on 06/16/2008 10:08:37 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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This was posted here a long while ago. What has happened since then? Anybody actually test one?


4 posted on 06/16/2008 10:10:13 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Red Badger; RockinRight
"Motorhead Messiah"

Lemme is GOD!!

Oh wait this is not about music is it....

5 posted on 06/16/2008 10:10:27 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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Turbine engine? Ask Parnelli Jones how it worked out for him 41 years ago at the Indy 500.


7 posted on 06/16/2008 10:12:35 AM PDT by laker_dad
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There’s a reason why the US Military went with a gas turbine setup for the Abrams instead of a traditional diesel like it’s counterparts.


9 posted on 06/16/2008 10:14:21 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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Nice, if I had money just burning a hole in my pocket I’d send him a 1977 Ford Thunderbird just to see what he could do with a land yacht.


10 posted on 06/16/2008 10:14:54 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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Red, do you info on 0-60mph data for a 3,000lb vehicle and are you correct on the 5K pricetag?


12 posted on 06/16/2008 10:15:24 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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If this story is true, I hope this guy becomes the Bill Gates of cars.

........and becomes a billionaire while he’s at it.


15 posted on 06/16/2008 10:16:38 AM PDT by fishtank (FIRST defeat Obama. ------------------ THEN resist McCain. ---------- A good plan.)
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Quite a love letter.


20 posted on 06/16/2008 10:21:37 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bible toting, bitter and armed with slashing sarcasm.)
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OK....

A turbine engine may be the Ultimate "Omnivorous" engine.

In the near future it may not if you can get the fuel, but can you burn it.

Their are drawbacks, Without a recouperator to send the heat back through the engine, efficiencies are incredibly low.

Another problem. As a hobbyist, you probably could build a piston engine on a lathe and bridgeport and it will run, but I wouldn't try it with a gas turbine. But when it comes to balancing at the RPM's he is talking about, you need VERY expensive equipment. Another issue is liberation. Little engine parts breaking loose if not designed robustly enough are literally deadly, as they fly though the outer case at you.

If you can't tell, I spent some time in the arena, and that is as far as I go, but at this point consider me from Missouri....

"Detroit can do this tomorrow" ...Ya well there is a story about one manufacturer that tried that, auto tolerances and all.... the Proto engine burned up, IMHO I not think this gent has any real exposure to the gas turbine arena, it is not as easy at it looks....

21 posted on 06/16/2008 10:21:57 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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So for a scientific theory, he wants people to starve (which will surely happen if this biofuels nonsense continues): renewable fuels grown on U.S. soil
22 posted on 06/16/2008 10:24:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Hey media! Obama goes to Rezko church 6/15/08...Ask him about it)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_turbine_engines


27 posted on 06/16/2008 10:29:42 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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I wish I knew enough to comment on this with some intelligence but I don’t. I have little aptitude for mechanics.

However, I honestly believe the solution to our energy crisis will derive from new technologies in the near future. This sounds too good to be true but one of these days it’s going to work and change the world as we know it.

I am an optimist when it comes to technology.


28 posted on 06/16/2008 10:29:52 AM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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Everything old is new again.

1963 Chrysler Turbine. I've seen it at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. It was even made into a movie called The Lively Set.

The problem with the 60 MPG Hummer is that Turbines take a while to spool up, so while it may only take a few seconds to charge the SuperCapacitors, it will take a minute or more to fire up the turbine.

Also, turbine engines are not cheap, so expect a $250,000 60 MPG Hummer. I've always wondered why over-the-road Tractor-Trailer rigs or train locomotives didn't use Turbine-Electric engines. The cost of the engine over a diesel, and the reduced fuel milage over a diesel were the reasons I've been told.

Other than that, I forsee fistfights at the back of fast food resturaunts, as all of these biodiesel drivers fight over the 20 gallons of used fry oil.

29 posted on 06/16/2008 10:30:24 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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No doubt the guy’s a mechanical genius and a true believer (which always kind of worries me) in what he’s doing. I have to take stuff like this with a big ol’ grain of salt, however:

“He installed a Duramax in the Hummer and plopped a carbon-fiber tank of supercompressed hydrogen into the bed. The results were impressive: A single tank of hydrogen lasted for 700 miles and cut the diesel consumption in half. It also doubled the horsepower.”

Maybe it’s just a limitation of my understanding of the laws of thermodynamics and such, but I fail to see how adding a little hydrogen gas to the mix can improve diesel engine fuel economy that much. I’d like to see some measurements of his fuel economy done under controlled conditions by a disinterested third party.

He should also be aware that firing up a big turbine engine “for a few seconds” to charge capacitors or batteries is an extremely inefficient way to use it. A much smaller turbine operating at a constant speed and throttle opening would be much more efficient.


33 posted on 06/16/2008 10:38:05 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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amazing how people will spend thousands in order to save tens. than they complain that they can’t afford an ything.


37 posted on 06/16/2008 10:47:10 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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Whipping a home-brew up in your garage is easy. Getting a car/engine combo to pass the full EPA/NHTSA certification is another.

50,000 miles with NO Maintenance except toping fluids and then pass the EPA test, change the fluids and run another 50,000 miles NO Maintenance and pass the test again.

When he does that with one of his “designs’, then you can pat him on the back.


38 posted on 06/16/2008 10:49:11 AM PDT by LBJay
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Nice afternoon read, thanks!


39 posted on 06/16/2008 10:51:54 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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40 posted on 06/16/2008 10:51:57 AM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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