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US mom pleads not guilty in MySpace suicide case
Yahoo News ^ | June 16, 2008

Posted on 06/16/2008 7:50:14 PM PDT by khnyny

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To: xJones

“poindexter” has to do with eggheads that get bogged down in minutia.

I saw one today, a PHD who refuses to get vaccines “vaccines can kill”

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....so 3 people died of a vaccine.. that outweighs the risk of millions loosing their lives in an epidemic plague.

Overeducated eggheads.


41 posted on 06/16/2008 9:04:11 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: xJones

“Pwn” is Internet lingo for “own” which is sort of like defeating someone. Self-pwning is perhaps the most common usage, and refers to when you do it to yourself.


42 posted on 06/16/2008 9:07:28 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: xJones

PWN is some internet slang that means something like “smackdown”, I think.

I looked it up once on google...;)


43 posted on 06/16/2008 9:07:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: khnyny

Denying that she committed a crime is not the same thing as defending her conduct as appropriate.


44 posted on 06/16/2008 9:09:31 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: khnyny
Why are you and others defending this woman? What’s your argument? What’s the defense? I’m an asshole who likes to prey on 13 year olds

The defense is that being an "asshole" is not illegal. Not being who you claim to be on the internet is not illegal. Telling someone that they suck is not illegal. The only crime commited here that I can see was by the 13 year old because suicide is illegal. Prosecute her.

45 posted on 06/16/2008 9:12:52 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

LOL. Who cares what you think?


46 posted on 06/16/2008 9:14:50 PM PDT by khnyny (Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy)
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To: khnyny

Apparently YOU do L0L


47 posted on 06/16/2008 9:16:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: khnyny

He sounds as though he knows the law better than you do, so his opinion here means more than yours.


48 posted on 06/16/2008 9:18:45 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: khnyny
LOL. Who cares what you think?

Um, actually, you do. You see, by posting an article here on FR, you are soliciting replys. That is the point of a discussion site such as the one that you are on. If you didn't care what others thought, you would have simply read the article, and not posted it.

49 posted on 06/16/2008 9:19:23 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: mylife

It makes a real difference when it’s YOUR child who is killed or injured by a vaccine.

Apparently you think those children’s lives are meaningless.


50 posted on 06/16/2008 9:25:21 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I've left the Grand Ol' Plantation. / GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU!)
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To: southern rock

I think they could make harassment stick...
Stalking would be a stretch....

Murder? L0L thats just ridiculous.

The womans a meddling loon and I hope she bears the weight of her actions but they aint gonna throw her in the slammer.
Prosecuting this would place billions of people under the wheels of the law.

People on this thread would be culpable if this case is successfully prosecuted.


51 posted on 06/16/2008 9:25:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Politicalmom

Did you read my post?

I’m sorry if this has touched your life.

I have known people crippled for life from polio.
Take the vaccine.

That used to be common, small pox, rubella.. all common.
Millions died.


52 posted on 06/16/2008 9:29:11 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Prosecuting this would place billions of people under the wheels of the law.

Many conservatives are just as guilty as libs when it comes to demanding that their feelings and emotions be given the weight of the law.

53 posted on 06/16/2008 9:30:41 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

dont I know it?

Hey! I left out the apostrophe!


54 posted on 06/16/2008 9:32:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: southern rock

There are now federal laws in place that specifically address electronic harassment—that is, using the internet to torment someone in just this way. I believe the federal law was passed about five years ago. Most states have similar statutes in their code now, too.

Some prosecutors may have become “power hungry, opportunistic, fame seeking, far-reaching bullies,” as you say. But in this case there has been a local and national outcry about what this woman did, and the prosecutor was responding to a local sense that something had to be done. Have you read all the accounts of what Lori Drew did? She embarked on a complicated campaign to torment and humiliate an innocent young girl, a girl she knew very well was vulnerable and prone to depression. She enlisted her own child and others in the plan. I doubt she intended for the victim to die, but what she did falls well within the definition of internet stalking and harassment.

I hope she goes to jail nearly forever. I hope she suffers greatly. At present she is so sociopathic that she has no sense she did anything wrong. Someone needs to teach her otherwise.


55 posted on 06/16/2008 9:34:21 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: mylife; Arguendo
Thank you both, I learn something new every day on the internet.

In regard to this article, well, we all know that the internet is a new phenomena that changes a lot of things. You can pretend to be anything you want, and there's always gullible suckers out there waiting. P.T. Barnum was born before his time, and all that.

In this case, there was a troubled young girl and she ran into an internet fiend. I don't how that 49 year old woman can live with herself after tormenting the girl so bad. But there are a lot of nuts on the 'net, and it can always get very ugly. What sort of laws should/could apply? Caveat emptor, let the buyer beware? I don't know, this is all new territory.

My son had a high school classmate who was a 17 year old girl and her mother had found the man of her dreams on the internet. He was thirty something and her soul mate. He gave her his address in Arkansas and the mother decided to give him a surprise visit. She took her 17 year old daughter along, and when they rang the door bell they met the parents of a 16 year old girl who turned out to be the 30 something male internet lover. Embarrassing doesn't begin to describe the situation.

I really don't think you can control the internet, and it's very difficult to keep your kids off of it. What I do is stress very heavily that you should never post anything on Myspace, and never trust a stranger on the internet that wants to get personal.

56 posted on 06/16/2008 9:35:54 PM PDT by xJones
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To: southern rock

Ok, being an asshole is not illegal. But, that would not prevent me from putting my size 12 up her backside.

Take what you want and pay for it.


57 posted on 06/16/2008 9:36:26 PM PDT by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: ottbmare

Harassment and stalking are even a stretch as all the kid had to do was log off.

Its a sick story and lori drew sucks but we don’t want legal precedent set on this.


58 posted on 06/16/2008 9:39:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Illuminatas

That would be called assault.


59 posted on 06/16/2008 9:42:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: southern rock

Having something wrong with you is a crime if you harass others. Especially if you use weirdo fraud to harass others as this woman was doing.

I would say it is especially a crime if the victim is a kid who would likely be more confused by it than an adult.


60 posted on 06/16/2008 9:46:07 PM PDT by modest proposal (Obama 08: all aboard for the Moron Train to Hell)
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