Posted on 06/17/2008 1:51:25 PM PDT by blam
Stone of Destiny is fake, claims Alex Salmond
By Auslan Cramb, Scottish Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:41PM BST 16/06/2008
Alex Salmond dropped a cultural bombshell yesterday when he claimed that the Stone of Destiny, one of Scotland's most famous relics, was a medieval fake.
Alex Salmond arriving at the Scottish Grand Committee in Dumfries carrying the Stone of Destiny
Scottish, English and British monarchs have been crowned on the ancient coronation stone since the ninth century.
It spent 700 years under the chair in Westminster Abbey after it was seized in 1296 by King Edward I, and was finally returned to Scotland 12 years ago.
It has since been viewed at Edinburgh Castle by tens of thousands of people, and is regarded as a symbol of Scottish independence.
According to legend, Jacob used the ancient stone as a pillow when he dreamt of a ladder to heaven.
But Scotland's First Minister is convinced that it may be no more than a worthless lump of Perthshire sandstone.
He believes it was passed off as the real coronation stone when Edward stormed Scone Abbey in 1296.
Mr Salmond said: "If you're the abbot of Scone and the strongest and most ruthless king in Christendom is charging toward you in 1296 to steal Scotland's most sacred object and probably put you and half of your cohorts to death, do you do nothing and wait until he arrives or do you hide yourself and the stone somewhere convenient in the Perthshire hillside? I think the second myself."
He is not even convinced that the "fake" stone plundered from Scone was the same one that was returned to Scotland by Michael Forsyth, the then Tory Scottish Secretary, in 1996.
On Christmas Day 1950, the Stone of Destiny was stolen from below the coronation chair in Westminster Abbey by a group of radical nationalist students.
There have long been rumours that a Glasgow stonemason, Baillie Robert Gray, made copies of the stone when he was asked to repair it after it broke in two during the raid.
After a brief sojourn north of the border it was later handed back to British authorities and was used in the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II in 1953.
"There's no question that Bertie Gray made copies," said Mr Salmond. "It's like the Loch Ness monster, it's certainly a puzzle and a mystery which is best not definitively answered."
The First Minister revealed his views on the eve of the premiere of a Hollywood film about the theft of the stone. The film stars Robert Carlyle and Billy Boyd, and the SNP hopes the movie will help boost its campaign for independence.
Ian Hamilton, a QC who was one of the four students who stole the relic 58 years ago, said he remained convinced it was the real thing.
"Had it been a substitute for Edward to carry off it would have been produced when the king (Robert the Bruce) regained his kingdom. It wasn't," said Mr Hamilton, whose book, the Stone of Destiny, is published this week.
A spokesman for Westminster Abbey said she had always believed the stone was genuine.
The stone is genuine.
What next? The King isn’t English?
There have been a lot of bloody minded monarchs in England’s history, but Edward I was one of the worst. Put him in the 20th century and he would have kept pace with Hitler and Stalin.
That is correct. There is no English King.
This speculation has been around a long time. Liafail looked genuine enough when I saw it back in 2001.
Only 12 years and the Scots have lost the Stone. It was safe for 700 years in England
BALLS!..... Cried the Queen...... If I had two I’d be King!
I don't know but the Stone of Happenstance is safely in my backyard.
Um, you do know that the “House of Windsor” is more properly termed the “House of Saxe-Cobourg Gotha” right? QEII and Prince ChuckleHead are Germans by ethnicity.
German.
Next they will be saying there are no leprechauns in Ire.
Sounds like a good plot for National Treasure 3 . . .
Try German.
B******* said the Prince, I’ve got a pair and I ain’t King.
Please tell everyone on FR, why is 'the King' German? Having a German-sounding family surname isn't the same thing as being German. It's like saying Buraq Obama Muhammed 'ZionKiller-Jihad' Hussein isn't American. Ok, bad example.
Well now you're just being silly...
Scotland’s Destiny was written in Scone...er...stone.
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