 Black said his officers are trained on gun laws.JERRY: I don't understand, your officers are trained on gun laws? |
“Assistant Police Chief Craig Black said he hadn’t been aware of the incident involving Deveraux until hearing about it at the City Council meeting. “
Let me be the first to say “bullsh**”.
Oh, so now LEO's are also psychiatrists?
”Deveraux said he doesn't want to sue anyone, or get an officer fired or fined.”
By God, if an officer doesn't even know the laws he is paid to enforce, he should be fired. If they want to write law, run for the state legislature.
Gosh. In Utah, yet.
I thought this was only a problem “back East”, where I live.
That's not the same as being trained on gun rights, which is specifically what Mr. Devereaux requested.
There's two types of cops in this world --those who've been caught in their lies and those who have yet to be caught.
| Black said his officers are trained on gun laws. JERRY: I don't understand, your officers are trained on gun laws? |
Then Black is either a liar, or his "training" was piss-poor, or both.
If the police are so afraid of law abiding citizens carrying guns they should find themselves another line of work. I am not afraid of those citizens so give me their badge and I will do the job they don’t want to do.
1. Lawsuits to the max. If it took the rest of my life, I would sue everyone I could think of and anyone else remotely connected with the dude within his chain of command.
2. Cause the biggest stink I could via the media, and make the police explain everything they think they know about the law
Statement:
. . . he was stopped by a Granite School District officer and “informed that if I touched my gun, I would be killed.”
Response:
Gee, I dunno Barney—I’m pretty fast.
bttt
First off... The police officers in Utah are top notch. Not “liars” and such. Secondly, Other than SLC, you can carry your guns openly with no problems. The guy in the article is right though, the police need to be trained about the gun laws. Moreover it’s the policy that needs to be changed. Also it was a school police officer that stopped him meaning he was on school grounds. Having a gun on school grounds in Utah is against the law.
“Guns BAAAAAAAAAAD! BAAAAAAAAAAAAD!” bleat the sheep.
The so-called “Peelian Principles” were codified subsequent to the establishment of the London Metropolitan Police by Sir Robert Peel on September 29, 1829. We in the US would do well to enact these same reforming principles for our police. They are:
1. The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.
2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon the public approval of police actions.
3. Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.
4. The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.
5. Police seek and preserve public favor not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute and impartial service to the law.
6. Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.
7. Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
8. Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions, and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.
9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.
Sadly, almost all law enforcement in the U.S. today operates contrary to these principles.
“Assistant Police Chief Craig Black said he hadn’t been aware of the incident involving Deveraux until hearing about it at the City Council meeting. He said there would be a review of the case by the professional standards board to determined what happened.”
Blah, blah, blah police-speak for screw you, you miserable little civilian peon, get out of my way before I step on you.
Only civilian review boards in all jurisidictions will help, although I suspect in many cases, the cops will pack them with police groupies.
LEO’s attitude towards armed citizens in this country is damn scary. There’s an episode of Cops taped in Cincinnati. Two shirtless, convicted felons get into a fist fight in front of a convenient store. A friend who was described as “never been in trouble a day in his life” decides he needs to leave the scene because things are getting ugly. A couple of thugs can’t pull him out of his car because he’s wearing his seatbelt, but he can’t manage to get away from them. He has a CCW permit and decides to get his gun from the glove compartment. The gun isn’t loaded of course, because he’s following the law. He’s so nervous that he drops the ammo while trying to load. Nonetheless, it scares the thugs off. Right about then, the cops roll up on the scene. And guess what? The ONLY guy who goes to jail that night is the dude with the CCW for unlawful transportation of a firearm. WTF? Every time I see a re-run of that episode, I start yelling at the TV. Hope that kid found a good attorney.
Can I encounter and interrogate police officers to determine for myself that they are not "nutcases"?
I walked out of a gun shop in Helena, MT a few years ago carrying a brand new semi-automatic assault rifle. (Illegal in California, Connecticut, and New Jersey, thank you) A police car screeched to a halt as I walked down the street and two officers jumped out. They looked at me and said, “Duuuude. Nice piece. Can we have a look?”
Those are the kind of police officers who respect citizens’ Second Amendment rights.