Posted on 06/21/2008 8:11:34 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
Amen, Amen and Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What am I missing here???
Congress sucks, yet we're reaching in for one of its members to be our next president. Have we become a nation of losers, for losers and by losers?
Our greatest enemies are not in the deserts of the Mideast or the mountains and caves of Afghanistan. They are 536 strong, operating from bases in Washington D. C..
“But I’m not sure the distain is for the “Democratic Congress”, but rather for Congress in general. “
It was NEVER anywhere this low when the GOP was in charge of Congress.
“McCain has betrayed virtually all of those troops, in ways that really matter and that they won’t soon forget.”
Oh yea. Then why is he dead even with Obama. Someone is voting for him.. not you. But quite a few people are.
Let me get this straight. You think Bush is so conservative that he was able to get the base to turn out for him just on the basis of... the $1.2 trillion prescription drug benefit...the pork laden highway bill. How about the amnesty bill where he too was up to his eyeballs. Bush is ever so slightly more conservative than McCain on some issues and significantly more liberal on others, including spending. If you think McCain is not going to have the enthusiastic support of the vast majority of Republicans, you are the one in denial. Just because your hatred of him is white hot does not mean that others share your view. Even the vast majority of people who have issues with McCain recognize that he is far preferable to Obama on WOT, taxes, judges, government spending. You know that is the case even though you persist in the mindless bashing of McCain. If you have a constructive alternative to McCain, propose it. Give us your gameplan, if you have one.
Your cheap tactic of trying to put words in my mouth is quite pathetic, actually.
The Republican Party is nothing more than a political machine.
When machines wear out, Americans build new ones.
Enjoy your worn-out jalopy. It’s days on the road are numbered.
Taxes: McCain and Obama both support the progressive income tax, they just differ on the details. Neither one of them seeks to repeal the 16th Amendement and abolish the IRS.
Spending: Both McCain and Obama are lovers of big government. They just differ on the details of how the money should be spent. Neither one of them wants the drastic cuts in federal spending and regulation that are needed to restore this republic.
2nd Amendment: Both McCain and Obama feel the government can pass laws restricting the sale, ownership and manufacture of firearms. They simply disagree on the details. Neither one of them wants a full restoration of 2nd Amendment rights and is calling to overturn existing gun regulations.
Health Care: McCain and Obama both favor the government being involved in and greatly regulating the health care industry. They only disagree on the details. Neither one of them seeks to get the government out of the medical business.
Differences? There are none. McCain offers a Republican version of statism, Obama offers a Democratic version of statism. Neither one of them supports the conservative principle of limited government.
Statism is the belief that government can solve all of society’s problems. Conservatism is the belief that government is the root of all of society’s problems. By their words and deeds both McCain and Obama are statists.
In general parties have to lose their focus in order to grow. This is the flaw with a two party system.
Unfortunately we are a long way from establishing viable alternatives, and the leaders of the past have, in general, been no different than those of the present in that they were unwilling to abandon the power and security provided by diluting the message of their own party rather than creating a new one.
Of course, it would help if the major new parties that get attention weren’t generally founded by nutcases.
WE got Serious about Ethanol...1.50 a Gallon Subsidy by the Feds .... means it will NOT stand on it’s own as a form of Energy.
We have Oil, We need Cheap Energy, and paying a Subsidy for something that you cannot even put in a PIPELINE, it has to be “Over the Road” tanker Delivered...is BOGUS.
You can get “Serious” about another form of Energy all you want to...but it ain’t here, it ain’t now, and it ain’t working. Nuclear works, Oil WORKS, and Congress Stopped The Growth / expansion of BOTH.
Oil is real, it’s here to stay UNTIL something better comes along. AND, Congress cannot pass a “Please Invent” Law that works. You cannot Legislate Science.
But You can Legislate a STOP to Energy Production, Drilling, refining, Exploration, and it’s STOPPED. The Democratic / Green / Environmental BS plan is working.
Congress is dumber than a 5th Grader on this issue
You can move in, Set up, DRILL a good well, or a Dry WELL in 1 month.
I’d call that a SHORT Term Solution. This isn’t Rocket Science. Our only Limitation is the Number of Drilling Rigs.
We can PUMP our way out of this....IF the Democratic congress lets us.
“today, the Liberal tide has turned and is marching in on us rapidly.”
Says who? It was conservatives who killed the Amnesty Bill. there is no great rush to liberalism is the county in general. There has been a rush away from Republicans. All the polls show that there are far more self identified conservatives today than there are liberals. How many Democrats do you see embracing the liberal label? None, outside of Berkeley and Massachusetts. In 2006, the Republicans were not punished for being too conservative. They were punished for spending too much money and becoming too much a part of the big government crowd in Washington. The Dems who won in 2006 ran as conservatives, as did the three upset winners in Mississippi, Louisiana and Illinois.
TO some extent it was cyclical. The Dems were dude to win a Congressional race after losing the last six in a row. And it was not the tidal wave that swept the GOP in in 1994, in which they picked up 52 seats, but a relatively small 31 seat gain, roughly what they picked up in 1982. Two years later (need I remind you), that great reversal ended with the GOP winning 49 states and coming within 200 votes of taking the 50th. So I would not read too much into 2006, particularly with a Congress whose approval ratings are almost within the margin of error for NEGATIVE territory.
The Main Stream Media is trumpeting this shift to the left, hoping to create a self fulfilling prophecy. They tried the same thing in 2004, and it fell flat in spite of the fact that the GOP had a weaker candidate in 2004 than they do this year, the war was going much worse then and Kerry was a much stronger candidate than Barry O. All these factors favor the GOP this year. As usual, the MSM is clueless. But that doesn’t mean I have to be.
PastorTony
Since Jun 9, 2008
Welcome to Free Republic. Trying to sow discontent on a conservative site? As I told you, most here are too well informed to fall for it. Obama and McCain are vastly different on the issues. Your post does nothing to refute that. (Ronald Reagan was not rffor repeal of the 16th Amendment either. He signed large tax increases in 1982. He is just another staitst too? LOL) Ask your buddies at DU if they agree with you that Obama and McCain are the same.
Reagan was not perfect, though he embraced far more conservative principles than any GOP President and nominee that followed him. Reagan got us on the right course, and Bush turned us the opposite direction which we haven’t changed course from.
Yes I haven’t been on this particular internet site long. I didn’t realize that its members were so opposed to the opinions of new people. Perhaps it is that fact that has caused so many of you to become blind to the fact that there is no difference between the GOP and Dems. We have been on a slow march towards full blown socialism in this country since the early 20th Century. Those who call themselves conservative are supposed to be the one’s opposing it, not simply hoping for their guy’s version of it. I’m not trying to “sow discontent” - in fact if you call yourself a conservative and you are content with what the GOP has been doing, then there is something seriously wrong with you.
If you folks want to just hear yourselves talk and be cheerleaders for another lackluster, big government GOP nomineee then maybe you should close registration to the site.
What I believe is the problem with the views that people like yourself have Brices, is that you have been conditioned to look at things in a static means. When you see an issue you see a Republican way and a Democratic way, but can't see outside of that singular course.
For example Health Care: McCain has a plan that involves manipulation of the tax code, new regulations on insurance companies, etc. Obama has a plan that includes a government run insurance plan, mandates on employers, etc.
Now when you look at it merely as left vs right you would say Obama’s plan is far worse than McCain's. But when you look at it as statism vs conservatism, you would see that both plans involve government control of the health care industry. Obama’s is full blown socialist health care, McCain's is almost socialist health care. Either way we get more government control over health care than we currently have. Obama is 5 steps forward to government owned hospitals and doctors, McCain's plan is 3 steps forward. Either way that's the direction we are going in, and therefore there is no difference in what they fundamentally believe about health care, it's the details they differ. Both McCain and Obama believe the federal government can and should fix the problem.
Conservatives, on the other hand, look at the issue differently and see the reason we have problems in the health care industry to begin with is because of the federal government. We believe that we need to get the government out of the health care business in order to solve the problems. We need to phase out the FDA, phase out Medicare/Medicaid, eliminate the corporate welfare to the health care industry, and roll back legislation.
Issue after issue you can see that McCain and Obama are on the wrong side of the issue, because their core fundamental belief is that government can and should solve all of the problems in this country. Conservatives however believe that government is the problem.
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