Posted on 06/21/2008 8:11:34 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
Pshaw...I’m so “unappeasable,” ain’t I...
Just can’t adjust to the new socialism.
But it WOULD drop significantly if we did the right things.
I disagree that the oil companies trying to get all the market would bear would keep the price as high as it is now.
The market price itself would be influenced downward if we did the right things, so that whatever the stable price came to be would not be susceptible to oil companies somehow forcing it higher than that. That’s what a market does.
You also said congress could just raise taxes even higher. They COULD, but my premise was that if we did all the right things, market forces would force the price down. Part of doing the right things would be NOT to raise taxes.
I’m talking about, we need a gov’t policy that promotes and allows all the right things, then people would see lower prices.
Let them. Seriuously. First, in the mean time we’ll keep drilling until it becomes economically unreasonable. In the mean time the 2 additional sources of extra oil will speed the decline in price. THEN, when oil creeps up again we aren’t drilling but simply uncapping already drilled wells, which is a far less expensive proposition and has already begun in certain areas. It’s also not uncommon for wells that seemed tapped out to have recharged in the interim, meaning another readily available source of oil.
Frankly, while I am not on the anti-Big Oil bandwagon, having grown up in the oil patch I have no doubt that increasing domestic production at least somewhat is not as difficult as some have said. Lots of abandoned wells out there, and the improved technology and tendency for recharging makes me think many of them could be pumping again in short order if the people holding the leases really wanted to make it happen,
Sir, with all due respect, I don't know if that nation exists any longer. John-Boy, Teddy K and Jorge Bush have helped insure that we become politically ineffective but at least be a beautiful melange of diversity with their support of porous borders. (Divide and conquer?)
I’m not saying the election can’t be influenced for the better.
I’m saying, in my opinion, even a McCain landslide (not predicting one) would not equal a transfer of massive proportions in the House and Senate to Republican Rule.
That’s my view.
You’re welcome to yours that such a massive transfer from Dem to Repub is achievable this election year.
All are important. Oil , coal and ...I don’t know about nuclear...are priorities but we also have to think outside of the box. We will eventually run out of the grease and will need alternatives. Besides...I would rather find a way to be off the grid and not be a slave for energy to our government. People need to figure out how to take care of themselves...whether with solar...wind or whatever while the government explores or opens energy sources we have right now.
What the media and the pols are ignoring is that the economy is reaching critical mass.
IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT
Get that drilled into your heads.
No one is reporting on what's happening to the trucking industry. Truckers and trucking companies are dropping like flies.
Hundreds have folded in the last few weeks - where there was a great shortage of truckers, the industry is now flooded with out of work drivers and parked trucks.
There are -= were - some 6,000 trucking co.s in the US - now, even some of the top 100 are folding. And even JB Hunt, a giant among giants, has pulled hundreds of their solo driver off and into running team driving, like it or not. Trucking is a hard life, living on the road, their living space the size of a small bathroom.
Solo, you at least sleep in a still truck and aren't sharing your little cave 24/7 with someone else. Team driving means that truck rolls nearly 24/7 and you sleep in a rocking truck, praying the other driver doesn't get into an accident.
The big companies lease trucks to their contracted drivers - usually on a 6-month basis, and their lease yards normally have revolving trucks as drivers continually end or start a lease and choose another truck. 6 months ago, the lease yards would be relatively slim pickings for choices as the turned in trucks were leased right out again,
Now, the lease yards are choked - as more and more drivers have gone belly up with the fuel prices.
We haven't felt the results of all this too much yet in the stores - but it is coming and if something drastic isn't done NOW - we will. And it ain't gonna be pretty folks.
Most people are blissfully unaware, for example, that the stores = like the supermarkets - have ONLY about 2 days of stock on the shelves. If the trucks stop rolling - those shelves are bare in 2 days. First will come the slow down on deliveries and our stores will look like the days of Communist Russia, with sparse goods on the shelves and long lines...
And Humpty Dumpty doesn't get put back together in a hurry.
This is the first layer of consequences from an encroaching Marxist takeover orchestrated by the Marxists, aka democrats, in DC. They have even let the cat out of the bag by saying out loud that they intend to Nationalize the oil companies - that would soon follow with the trucking industry and all other major businesses.
Fasten your seat belts, folks. It ain't gonna be pretty.
Dig in a get the Marxists out now, or get ready to live under Marxism/Communism.
Anyone who spouts the foolish tripe about letting the Marxist candidate in now and then we can regain control in 2012 is either a naive fool or an outright Marxist. If they get the WH this time - the Constitution will be null and void, the Electoral College will be no more (anybody been listening for the past 8 years? They have stated, again and again, that this is their goal. To kill the EC would nullify red states voters. The Founding Fathers knew that without the protection of the EC, the big city voters would decide elections.)
I pray God protects us - altho' with the things we have allowed to happen in this country, I sometimes wonder why He would bother.
Except for the fact that he has no base.
/s
Ever seen a building with no foundation? What do you think is going to happen to it the first time the heavy rains come down?
Wish I had some Photoshop skills. I'd put a McCain '08 sign on the side of that building...
Several years ago here in CA, our state’s economic plight was so bad that we recalled the then Dem Gov. Gray Davis and replaced him with a Repub Arnold Schwartzenager. Unfortunately, we didn’t replace the state legislature also and now thisngs are actually more bleak than they were before.
Somehow, I don’t see libs leaving the farm.
“Fundamentally there is no difference between McCain and Obama - they both believe it is the role of government to solve the world’s problems.”
To say there is no difference between Obama and McCain suggests that you have not done your research. I see you just signed up over here and if you are trying to spread disaffection for McCain, I don’t think it will work here.
Differences? Let’s see.
Taxes: McCain wants to make the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent. Obama want to let them expire, a massive tax increase. How exactly is McCain’s position on taxes fundamentally as statist as Obama’s statist as Obama’s.
Spending: McCain has consistently opposed earmarks, which grow government at the expense of the taxpayer. Obama favors them. McCain has opposed big ticket government spending such as the $1.2 trillion prescription drug benefit, the $386 billion highway bill and the gigantic Agriculture Bill just passed by Congress. Obama has proposed even more spending than this. How is McCain’s position equally as statist as Obama’s?
Second Amendment- McCain has a nearly perfect rating form the NRA in protecting the Second Amendment. Obama is a gun grabber extraordinaire who tired to pass a bill in the Illinois Senate that would subject the VICTIMS of burglary to prosecution if they have a gun stolen in the burglary and it is used to commit a crime UNLESS the Victim of the Burglary can prove that he took “reasonable steps”: to secure it. How exactly is McCain’s position on the Second Amendment fundamentally as statist as Obama’s?
I haven’t even mentioned the radically different approaches of Obama and McCain on medical care, in which Obama would have the government gobble up an industry that is one seventh of the entire U.S. Economy. McCain firmly opposes government run health care.
You will find most people on this site to be too well informed to buy outlandish statements such as that McCain and Obama are both fundamentally the same as far as statism is concerned.
You are so right.
There are many Dem members of congress who serve as object lessons to your point.
My headliner is Jack Murtha.
In a supposedly patriotic district in PA, he can even acuse our troops of “cold blooded murder” before their cases are adjudicated and get away unscathed.
Even after they are adjudicated as innocent, he still skates, and his office replies to inquiries about any forthcoming apology by arrogantly stating that there’s no such forthcoming, or simply hanging up on whomever called to ask.
One time a poster wrote that we need to send money to Murtha’s Repub opponent because “the good people of PA deserve better than Murtha”. I don’t remember their name or I would ping them.
But I replied that I wish they could give me one piece of evidence that the people who elect him are anything other than very satisfied with Jack Murtha.
You're referring to the generation that gave us this.
This current generation is more concerned with transfat, polar bears, snail darters, melting sea ice and the global warming hoax.
They just don't have the "Right Stuff".
I think he is right.
They will get very nervous about us becoming independent - we have enough gas reserves, for example, just under the ground in the Utah area, to out-produce all the camel countries.
Their billions and their choke hold on the world would dry up and blow off into the wastelands.
They would, I agree, quite quickly, start lowering their prices. That's the short term good news.
But we must still forge ahead with drilling/refineries/etc - and become INDEPENDENT.
How on God's green earth did we allow ourselves to be dependent on the most hostile hordes on the planet let alone content/adamant (in DC) to stay captives?
Insanity.
We have a window of opportunity. A SMALL one.
We demand it now, or we will never get another shot.
We have become too lax in wanting our politicians to do it all for us. This is the time we must jump in and make our voices and demands heard loud and clear. The dems will never back off without a loud and rebellious uprising from "We the People" = we show our support NOW for drilling/refining - or we will get no second chance.
And if we don't make our voices heard NOW, we deserve what we get.
Which potential hard right VP is your favorite? Or more than one if you have a list.
Well, here is my favorite illustration of the McKoolaid platform that his supporters don't want to see. Eyes tightly closed, palms clamped firmly over ears, tounge wagging......LA, LA, LA, LA, LAAAAAaaaaaa!
With Juan out of the senate and in the White House that would be one less useful idiot in the senate.
Any chance you could quit posting such complete fantasy in regards to Congress? It’s a complete waste of valuable bandwidth.
Which do you think is more dangerous to the flock: The wolf in wolve's clothing, or a wolf in sheep's clothing?
It would raise the mean IQ of the Senate Republicans.
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