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Vietnam veterans ask T. Boone Pickens to pay up on Kerry record
Dallas News ^

Posted on 06/22/2008 4:56:38 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Vietnam veterans ask T. Boone Pickens to pay up on Kerry record

02:48 PM CDT on Saturday, June 21, 2008

By GROMER JEFFERS JR./ The Dallas Morning News

Ten men who served in Vietnam with Sen. John Kerry want Dallas billionaire T. Boone Pickens to fork over the $1 million he said he would give anyone who could disprove claims that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth made about Mr. Kerry's war record during the 2004 presidential campaign.

The men sent a lengthy letter and supporting documentation to Mr. Pickens on Thursday.

Mr. Pickens, who helped support the anti-Kerry group, could not be reached for comment Friday night. He has not publicly responded to the letter.

“We are prepared now to come to Texas to see you, or meet somewhere else mutually convenient,” the crewmen wrote. “We are telling you, that we will bring with us a Navy/Pentagon certified copy of Senator Kerry’s full military record and his writings and the movie footage you have requested. We will sit with you while you go through them page for page, frame by frame and answer any questions you may have. We know the truth because we were there on the boat. "

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billionaires; kerry; propagandawingofdnc; swiftboatvets; tboonepickens
Kerry served in Vietnam during the Vietnam War? Well this is news...........
1 posted on 06/22/2008 4:56:38 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Kerry still refuses to release some military form that’s been requested over and over?

Are these ten people going to bring his Cambodian record too?


2 posted on 06/22/2008 4:59:13 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: SkyDancer

Kerry was in Vietnam?


3 posted on 06/22/2008 5:00:10 PM PDT by South40
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To: Sub-Driver

Want to bet anything that this is a redacted copy of his service record after the Carter amnesty. The BUM wouldn’t release it to the general public only to one of his faithful.


4 posted on 06/22/2008 5:00:24 PM PDT by snowman1
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder if these records contain Kerry’s honorable discharge?


5 posted on 06/22/2008 5:02:06 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: South40

At least that’s what Rush says every time he mentions Kerry’s name ... I’ve seen the Swift Boat arguments (their web site during Kerry’s run for pres.) ... pretty good.


6 posted on 06/22/2008 5:03:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Sub-Driver
If these guys are right and I believe they are NOT, then frenchie is the stupidest bastard ever to run for president.
If what they said were true and the Swifties were lying, why didn't frenchie bring these “proofs” forward? Better yet why didn't the moron hire these clowns to “disprove” what the Swifties said? Now it makes no difference because if frenchie rolled over on the Swiftie’s attacks for no reason he doesn't deserve to be president. Can anyone else see how inane this crap is?
7 posted on 06/22/2008 5:05:18 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Kerry signed his 180 for full release (to Kranish) on May 20, 2005. Nobody but Kranish has it, and he read everything and found nothing new, just more praises and laurels for Jon. WE don't get to see it but the Boston Globe has it all locked away somewhere.

Do what these vets claim to have include the above, ALL of it?

8 posted on 06/22/2008 5:06:32 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: jmaroneps37

The SBVFT accusations were vetted thoroughly in 04, and it all stuck. Maybe these guys have some minor detail like say, Kerry wore boxers not briefs, and are hoping that can get them the 1 million. If the Swifties were even at all vulnerable they would have been hammered into oblivion when lurch ran for prez, but they came through with flying colors and stuck the creep with a loss....God bless them!


9 posted on 06/22/2008 5:10:18 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: Sub-Driver
Get Senator Kerry to sign form 180 and show us his official records not “documentation” that may or may not have been faxed from a Dallas Kinkos.
10 posted on 06/22/2008 5:13:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Sub-Driver

A claim that “they were on the boat” with Kerry, all ten of them???

I find that hard to believe.

Put up some names and proof that they were there, too.


11 posted on 06/22/2008 5:17:51 PM PDT by EricT. (The tree of liberty needs to be watered...)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

LOL!Bad Conduct Discharge for consorting with enemies of the U.S. while still an officer in the USNR.


12 posted on 06/22/2008 5:18:24 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Sub-Driver
We are telling you, that we will bring with us a Navy/Pentagon certified copy of Senator Kerry’s full military record and his writings and the movie footage you have requested

Bull Sh*t!

It would be worth a $1 million IF and only IF, Pickens (who considering his success can hardly be considered a dummy) was provided with a signed Form 180 and allowed him unfettered and unlimited access to ALL of Kerry's military records including his medical records as well as the time he spent in the Reserves.

I'd trust those Kerry supporters as much as I'd trust John "The Snake" and that is none at all.

In fact, if Kerry's supporters would agree to the same terms as above, (and for any reason T. Boone decided against paying their blood money) I'll kick in the first $100 and I would venture to suggest that I could get another 10,000 fellow Nam Vets (or other patriotic Americans) to contribute whatever and bet we could raise the $1,000,000 in a matter of weeks if not days.

13 posted on 06/22/2008 5:18:59 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: EricT.

it was a big boat!


14 posted on 06/22/2008 5:19:17 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: jmaroneps37
If what they said were true and the Swifties were lying, why didn't frenchie bring these “proofs” forward?

EXACTLY!!!

The F'n, Traitorous, Rat-Bastard, Snake, could have put that entire matter to bed in a N.Y. minute if he would have only released to everyone interested his complete military records (by initiating a Form 180 and allowing whoever to request his records) INCLUDING his medical as well as his Reserves records.

Kerry could have not only embarassed and cut the legs from under the Swift Boat Vets, but would more than likely have beaten Bush,.

So if he was telling the truth, WHY DIDN'T HE????????

15 posted on 06/22/2008 5:25:59 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: South40

Who knew!?!?!?!


16 posted on 06/22/2008 5:28:11 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: jmaroneps37

Once upon a time I met a “veteran for Kerry” supporter. Really.

The only problem was, he was also a proud, advertising member of our teachers union!

I asked him and Vietnam I’m still not sure he served IN Vietnam. But he sure proclaimed his Kerry support.


17 posted on 06/22/2008 5:31:57 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: SkyDancer

If I recall, the Pentagon withheld about 100 pages of Kerry’s military record from the public at the request of monsieur Kerry.


18 posted on 06/22/2008 5:32:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Then those ten guys should cough them up to get a chance at the money ...I doubt it.


19 posted on 06/22/2008 5:33:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: SkyDancer

The Swift Boat Vets proved that the “F” in John “F” Kerry stands for “fraud”.


20 posted on 06/22/2008 5:36:55 PM PDT by South40
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To: Sub-Driver
The men sent a lengthy letter and supporting documentation to Mr. Pickens on Thursday.

Well, isn't that special!!?


21 posted on 06/22/2008 5:38:23 PM PDT by XR7
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To: South40
Kerry was in Vietnam?

Cambodia.

22 posted on 06/22/2008 5:39:36 PM PDT by XR7
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To: South40

I’d like to see them come back - their web site is down now ...


23 posted on 06/22/2008 5:40:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: XR7

Christmas in Cambodia is seared into his memory.


24 posted on 06/22/2008 5:42:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Yes.
Seared.


25 posted on 06/22/2008 5:45:26 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Morgan in Denver

Be careful. There’s a big difference between Vietnam-era veteran and Vietnam veteran as I’m sure Sen. Tom Harkin will explain. Or, maybe he won’t.


26 posted on 06/22/2008 5:54:07 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
I wonder if these records contain Kerry’s honorable discharge?

They probably do. But I'll bet they don't include the pre-Carter less-than-honorable one or any of those records.

That such a bum is still on our payroll is sickening.

27 posted on 06/22/2008 5:56:19 PM PDT by Octar
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To: DakotaRed; srmorton

Ping


28 posted on 06/22/2008 5:57:06 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: South40
Kerry was in Vietnam?

He sure did not serve a full tour. He did not serve 25% of a tour of duty. There are people that came back for legitimate reasons but not Kerry. Did he really get a Purple Heart? His company commander said that he did not sigh any Purple Heart papers. Where are your military papers kerry? Did you really get a Dishonorable Discharge and are afraid to show it?

29 posted on 06/22/2008 5:59:12 PM PDT by mountainlion
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To: SkyDancer

John O’Neill is one of my heros.


30 posted on 06/22/2008 6:01:06 PM PDT by South40
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To: SkyDancer
their web site is down now ...

Their website is up, they've just ceased operations.


31 posted on 06/22/2008 6:03:02 PM PDT by South40
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To: Sub-Driver
if you added up all the times that pompous gas bag said When I was in VietNam...

$1000 says its longer than that POS was actually there.

32 posted on 06/22/2008 6:26:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Red Steel

The way the left works, I’d bet Kerry’s redacted records are about to be “released” and used as leverage on McCain to release his.

“released” means we will never see them;)


33 posted on 06/22/2008 6:41:00 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: South40

Hope it’ll be back in operation soon ....


34 posted on 06/22/2008 6:45:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: SkyDancer

That would be form 180.He will never release this form because it will show a dishonorable discharge that was upgraded by....wait for it...jimma caata to an honorable.This can be the only reason that he wont turn it over.One of the enemy within beyond any doubt.


35 posted on 06/22/2008 6:50:04 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I do believe Pickens laid out specific terms for payment, including Kerry supplying all recods available of his service from 1972 to 1978, the date on the discharge Kerry supplied.

When does Kerry come clean and stop hiding behind others?


36 posted on 06/22/2008 6:56:34 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Complacent Americans and Spineless RINO's have allowed this to happen.)
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To: Sub-Driver

T. Boone Pickens could get out of paying. He could just register as a Democrat and say that he lied. Perfectly acceptable by libs’ standards.


37 posted on 06/22/2008 6:57:52 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Sub-Driver
that we will bring with us a Navy/Pentagon certified copy of Senator Kerry’s full military record and his writings and the movie footage you have requested.

Isn't this the way it's always worked? The deniers won't provide the information, they just say they *will* after the other side capitulates.
Give me $1M, and I will promise to provide Kerry's military records, too. :-)

38 posted on 06/22/2008 6:59:23 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: 12Gauge687

LOL,you got that right.


39 posted on 06/22/2008 7:06:22 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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Veterans Rebut ‘Swift Boat’ Charges Against Kerry in Answer to Challenge
NY Times | June 22, 2008 | KATE ZERNIKE
Posted on 06/22/2008 11:27:28 AM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2034782/posts


40 posted on 06/22/2008 7:49:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Sub-Driver
“We are telling you, that we will bring with us a Navy/Pentagon certified copy of Senator Kerry’s full military record and his writings and the movie footage you have requested.

So how did these men get John Effin Kerry's military record, when he never released it publicly? Sounds kinda fishy to me.

41 posted on 06/22/2008 9:05:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SkyDancer
Are these ten people going to bring his Cambodian record too?

Is this the record where private citizen Nixon somehow managed to start calling the shots of the military?

42 posted on 06/22/2008 9:11:04 PM PDT by GOPyouth (Obama thinks Osama is innocent. That should be enough.)
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To: SkyDancer
>i>Kerry still refuses to release some military form that’s been requested over and over?

He has released it to a few friendly reporter types. Maybe he's released it to this group as well. But I'll also bet it proves nothing. If it did, SKerry would have released it to the general public before he got kicked to the curb by the electorate.

43 posted on 06/22/2008 9:37:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: EricT.
A claim that “they were on the boat” with Kerry, all ten of them???

As I recall, PBRs only had a crew of three or four (plus the officer in charge). If they had ten people on them, they would be in danger of sinking.

PS: I spent the whold year in Cam Rahn Bay...not a half a year like Kerry.

44 posted on 06/23/2008 7:27:42 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: GOPyouth

BMT


45 posted on 06/23/2008 7:51:35 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Sub-Driver

T Boone Pickens should accept nothing from Kerry/ He should only accept records sent straight to him from the Pentagon


46 posted on 06/30/2008 7:38:33 PM PDT by dennisw (Barack Obama: A Phony Smile in an Empty Suit)
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To: Sub-Driver
New information on Kerry's "No Man Left Behind" story is available here.

47 posted on 07/02/2008 2:35:35 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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