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Too large a Democratic advantage in new L.A. Times/Bloomberg poll?
LA Times Blog ^ | June 25, 2008 | Don Frederick

Posted on 06/25/2008 5:40:03 PM PDT by keepitreal

A well-known Republican research firm argues that the voter pool tapped for the new L.A. Times/Bloomberg poll was too skewed toward Democrats -- a challenge that causes the GOP strategists to question the double-digit lead the survey gave Barack Obama over John McCain.

The case against the poll, laid out in a memo sent out today by Public Opinion Strategies, in turn sparked a response from survey director Susan Pinkus, who stood by its methodology and findings.

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Pinkus, like most nonpartisan pollsters, rejects that notion. Discussing the current survey, she says, "The poll was weighted slightly, where necessary, to conform to the Census Bureau’s proportions of sex, race, ethnicity, age and national region. The poll was NOT weighted for party identification since party ID is a moving variable that changes from one election to another, or when one party may be favored more than the other."

As a result, the survey simply asked respondents their party affiliation or inclination, and came up with this breakdown: 39% Democratic, 22% Republican, 8% something else, 4% refused to say.

There's the rub, insists the memo from Bill McInturff, Liz Harrington and David Kanevsky. They write that these figures, and the 17 percentage-point gap between the two parties, are "greatly out of line with what most other surveys are reporting."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; electionpresident; lat; mediabias; partisanmedia; polls; propagandawingofdnc
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Sample just a tad bit skewed.
1 posted on 06/25/2008 5:40:03 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: keepitreal

Wow, you don’t say.


2 posted on 06/25/2008 5:40:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Norman Bates

ping


3 posted on 06/25/2008 5:41:23 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: keepitreal

4 posted on 06/25/2008 5:41:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: keepitreal

Knock me over with a feather!!
Biased, you say?! Go figure!!

/sarc


5 posted on 06/25/2008 5:42:09 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: keepitreal

So even though there were 17% more dems used, he only had a 15% lead? LOL thats got to hurt...


6 posted on 06/25/2008 5:45:47 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: keepitreal

“39% Democratic, 22% Republican, 8% something else, 4% refused to say.”

39+22+8+4 = 73%

Am I confused or are we still missing 27%?


7 posted on 06/25/2008 5:46:04 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

39+22+8+4 = 73%

Am I confused or are we still missing 27%?

Just another publick skul gradiate doing poools.


8 posted on 06/25/2008 5:47:25 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: driftdiver

Am I confused or are we still missing 27%?

No, they gave the wrong answer and were hung up on.


9 posted on 06/25/2008 5:49:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: keepitreal
Doesn't matter; we understand these things. At this time in a Presidential election cycle the skewed polls should show the Democrat at least 17 percentage points ahead of the Republican.

With Obamasama at only 15 points ahead, that probably means a coming Republican landslide.

The Pincus lady doesn't have a clue.

10 posted on 06/25/2008 5:49:40 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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” “39% Democratic, 22% Republican, 8% something else, 4% refused to say.”

39+22+8+4 = 73%

Am I confused or are we still missing 27%? “

Check Fort Marcy Park.


11 posted on 06/25/2008 5:50:18 PM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: keepitreal

give them credit for at least having the b@lls to report this...


12 posted on 06/25/2008 5:50:35 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: All

Probably 27% Independent.


13 posted on 06/25/2008 5:51:02 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

Yes. Later in the article it does discuss a 27 percent independent figure.


14 posted on 06/25/2008 5:51:51 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: keepitreal


Susan Pinkus: Liberal.
15 posted on 06/25/2008 5:55:46 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: keepitreal
The poll was NOT weighted for party identification since party ID is a moving variable...

A poll is "NOT weighted" for whatever variable suits the pollsters political leftist leanings. At this point months in advance of election day, polls are "not weighted" in such a way to give Obomba a BIG advantage to make pubs depressed and less likely to contribute, volunteer, etc.

16 posted on 06/25/2008 5:56:18 PM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: keepitreal

Email the pollster here:

susan.pinkus@latimes.com


17 posted on 06/25/2008 5:58:44 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: keepitreal
39% Democratic, 22% Republican, 8% something else, 4% refused to say.

LOL

How did this woman get into this field? She seems to be incapable of understanding basic reality.

18 posted on 06/25/2008 6:04:02 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: keepitreal

The day the Democratic convention ended in San Francisco in 1984, the Newsweek poll showed Walter Mondale 18 points ahead of President Ronald Reagan. Mondale ended up getting clobbered, 49 states to one.


19 posted on 06/25/2008 6:08:20 PM PDT by Nabber
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To: keepitreal
Obama holds 12-point lead over McCain, poll finds
Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:16:46 PM · 39 of 72
HeartlandOfAmerica to The_Republican
I may be mistaken, but if not, the LAT is the paper that tends to oversample Dems in their polls.

Besides, who cares about Registered voters 4 months out?

Oil is the key to this election. It keeps going up like this, it'll be $200/barrel at the election and Dems are going to have a lot to answer for.

People shelling out $100 per tank is something they can understand.

Course, why they aren't more po'd at the dems at 140/barrel is beyond me.

Of course it was oversampled. Only an idiot would think otherwise. They've done it before and when one candidate comes out with an overnight 10+ pt lead, its time to ask how the poll was conducted.

20 posted on 06/25/2008 6:09:03 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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