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Media Darling Flips And Flops Way To Center
IBD Editorials ^ | June 26, 2008 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 06/26/2008 6:58:21 PM PDT by Kaslin

"To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies." —Obama spokesman Bill Burton, Oct. 24, 2007

That was then: Democratic primaries to be won, netroot lefties to be seduced. With all that (and Hillary Clinton) out of the way, Obama now says he'll vote in favor of the new FISA bill that gives the telecom companies blanket immunity for post-9/11 eavesdropping.

Back then, in the yesteryear of primary season, he thoroughly trashed the North American Free Trade Agreement, pledging to force a renegotiation, take "the hammer" to Canada and Mexico, and threaten unilateral abrogation.

Today, the hammer is holstered. Obama calls his previous NAFTA rhetoric "overheated" and essentially endorses what one of his senior economic advisers privately told the Canadians: The anti-trade stuff was nothing more than populist posturing.

Nor is there much left of his primary season pledge to meet "without preconditions" with Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. There will be "preparations," you see, which are being spun by his aides into the functional equivalent of preconditions.

Obama's long march to the center has begun.

And why not? What's the downside? He won't lose the left, or even mainstream Democrats. They won't stay home on Nov. 4. The anti-Bush, anti-Republican sentiment is simply too strong. Election Day is their day of revenge — for the Florida recount, for Swift-boating, for all the injuries, real and imagined, dealt out by Republicans over the last eight years.

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1 posted on 06/26/2008 6:58:22 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
This is still a center-right country. Obama cannot win with just the moonbats and liberals.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 06/26/2008 7:03:48 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin

Did you ever see a fish when you pulled him onto the bank or boat?

NoBombo is that floppin’ fish out of the water. His handlers sure are idiots.


3 posted on 06/26/2008 7:13:41 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Great analogy


4 posted on 06/26/2008 7:14:54 PM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
No - he's a smart politician. He may be an idiot on the issues but he knows running like a liberal in the general election isn't going to get him past the starting gate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 06/26/2008 7:16:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Did anyone hear on radio today that the AFL-CIO unions are pouring 200 mil in the works on ads for the flipper? I can’t remember what station.


6 posted on 06/26/2008 7:24:37 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Kaslin
Look out Condi, here comes Obama!

7 posted on 06/26/2008 7:38:39 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (This proportional font brought to you by the free market.)
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To: Kaslin

Pretty much happens every election. nearly all candidates have to run to the extremes because that is where the True Believers are, both right and left; the ones who make calls and bring people to the polls, give money, etc
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Then once they get the nomination both race to the center where most of the voters are.

There are probably an exactly equal number of people on FR who fall into the categories of ‘hold my nose and vote for the sellout’ as there are on DU. One can loath McCain and yet see what a difference ONE supreme court justice makes; for everyone reading the preceding sentence and agreeing there is probably somebody saying the same thing except in reference to Obama.

Noting new here.

The few exceptions that come to mind are Ike, being so extremely popular he did not need ‘the base’, Reagan (although less so) due to massive charisma and impeccable credentials to the base and some incumbents.


8 posted on 06/26/2008 7:40:50 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: Kaslin

The character “Kingfish” on the old Amos ‘n’ Andy show comes to mind.

Only with the “Kingfish”, larceny was just funny. This Obama fellow is as serious as a heart attack.


9 posted on 06/26/2008 7:40:50 PM PDT by alloysteel (A taxpayer voting for Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Kaslin

I predict that Obama will, before the election, come out in favor of drilling offshore and in ANWR.


10 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:26 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: goldstategop

RE: smart politician, I agree. Obama ain’t make the mistake of over-estimating the intelligence of his devotees.


11 posted on 06/26/2008 7:52:58 PM PDT by flowerplough (Obama: "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and the planet began to heal")
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To: Kaslin

nObama is a mere character actor in his own movie remake of:
“Say Anything”


12 posted on 06/26/2008 7:53:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

But what does it matter? I have met few few people without a hardened position one way or another. Could this money actually matter? I mean, does anyone remember the Obama ads he ran in PA against Hillary? I don’t. All that money down the drain and not one memorable ad.


13 posted on 06/26/2008 7:54:53 PM PDT by steel_resolve (We are living in the post-rational world where being a moron is an asset)
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To: RedStateRocker

One can loath McCain and yet see what a difference ONE supreme court justice makes; for everyone reading the preceding sentence and agreeing there is probably somebody saying the same thing except in reference to Obama.

Noting new here.

The few exceptions that come to mind are Ike, being so extremely popular he did not need ‘the base’, Reagan (although less so) due to massive charisma and impeccable credentials to the base and some incumbents.


A McCain victory in November puts Rodham back in play in 2012, when she’ll likely end the Republican run and serve two terms herself.

An Obama victory in November finishes Rodham off (and McCain too) and will likely result in 4 utterly inept years of mismanaged liberal government and the election of a for-real conservative in 2012—provided we get our act together between now and then.

So, there’s more nose-holding than one day in November for those who vote for McCain. If you’re my age, you’ll likely be holding your nose the rest of your life. So, I’m not gonna hold my nose for a moment. I’m resigned to 4 years of Obamanation during which the conservative cause will more easily galvanize than it did in 2006-08. So I say:

Bobby Jindal 2012. Be there or be nowhere.


14 posted on 06/26/2008 8:11:11 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

Just how many YOUNG and healthy Ruth Bader Ginsbergs on the Supreme Court (for life!) could we have before you decided Obama over McCain wasn’t worth it?


15 posted on 06/26/2008 8:24:41 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: PaleoBob
Just what in your life makes you think that you posess the forsight to prognosticate all of that?

4 years of McCain will lead to 8 years of Hillary, but 4 years of Obama will lead to Jindal for 8 years???

Here's a question - who did you expect to get the R nomination a year ago. Guess wrong? You bet you did.

16 posted on 06/26/2008 8:25:33 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Kaslin
Let's put this “flip-flop” CRAP to bed. NOW. Both sides, all candidates, Republican or democRat are guilty as SIN. We can't trust anyone in Washington.
17 posted on 06/26/2008 8:32:16 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: Kaslin

I heard that Allen West will be giving a speech addressing Obama and the use of “race” in politics. The GO WEST campaign will be videotaping the speech and it should be released sometime next week.

www.allenwestforcongress.com


18 posted on 06/26/2008 8:54:02 PM PDT by MKAP001
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To: MKAP001

Thanks for the heads up! Allen West is exactly what the GOP needs. And fast! I can’t wait to see what Allen West has to say in this video. Go West!


19 posted on 06/26/2008 8:58:35 PM PDT by david_08
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To: goldstategop

Obama will win, big time. Americans are not going to vote for the high strung, rather luny statist Republican alternative.


20 posted on 06/26/2008 8:58:39 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Americans are not going to vote for Barack Hussein Obama, the terrorist appeasing racist. Obama is not going to win. You sound like a sore loser because your choice that you believed would win, the Surrender Monkey Ron Paul was nothing more than a blip on the screen.


21 posted on 06/26/2008 9:22:20 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: Bobkk47

I agree with your prediction. He will flip on drilling.

My prediction to my moon-bat father really pixxed him off. Obama, if elected, will use an unelected “commission” for cover to stay in Iraq. He’s not dumb enough to surrender while winning.

Now I have an interesting anecdote.

A liberal CPA friend was at some Washington DC meeting that had the top economic/tax advisors for McCain and Obama talking/debating about their tax policy. Obama’s rep (I think it was a she, but I will use he) was a total joke. He could not answer any question directly. All of the answers were “Obama has been too engaged in the campaign for the past year to think about specific tax policy”.

The liberal came way with the feeling that the Obama people were never going to commit to any position OR that they actually had no position. Either way, she was annoyed, dismayed and p-ssed to be lied to.


22 posted on 06/26/2008 9:27:48 PM PDT by laxcoach
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To: Kaslin

Obama will now do his imitation of Bill Clinton.

The Doubletalk Express to the White House.


23 posted on 06/26/2008 9:28:31 PM PDT by Nextrush (MCCAIN, OBAMA, CLINTON......WHAT A CHOICE?)
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To: Kaslin; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP

24 posted on 06/26/2008 9:31:43 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

I saw Krauthammer on Brit Hume today. Obama plays both sides of the SCOTUS ruling too. He was for the Ban in DC but he approves the SCOTUS ruling!!


25 posted on 06/26/2008 9:39:01 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: RedStateRocker

We agree..nice post.


26 posted on 06/26/2008 9:53:48 PM PDT by chasio649 (sick of it all)
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To: Kaslin
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


27 posted on 06/26/2008 9:57:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: TribalPrincess2U; All
"Did you ever see a fish when you pulled him onto the bank or boat?

NoBombo is that floppin’ fish out of the water. His handlers sure are idiots."

Pacifist Fish Catching

28 posted on 06/26/2008 10:20:34 PM PDT by musicman
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To: goldstategop

No, this is a RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE country with a few fringes telling us it isn’t. Untill the GOP realizes that, we will keep getting suck ass candidates like John McLame.


29 posted on 06/26/2008 11:19:05 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Kaslin
Obama is just a politician. He is not a "Post Racial Messiah" or any other kind of Messiah. The left smells blood. Very little Obama could do would turn them away. They WILL make noises like the will vote elsewhere or stay home but in the end they will follow along.


30 posted on 06/26/2008 11:19:19 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RedStateRocker

“There are probably an exactly equal number of people on FR who fall into the categories of ‘hold my nose and vote for the sellout’ as there are on DU. One can loath McCain and yet see what a difference ONE supreme court justice makes”

With the Senate in Dim hands, the judges argument holds no water.


31 posted on 06/27/2008 12:27:06 AM PDT by Grunthor (States Rights do not trump national security. DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!)
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To: Bobkk47
I predict that Obama will, before the election, come out in favor of drilling offshore and in ANWR.

There's only so far the Messiah can go before he loses the "idealistic" left-wing base and the oft-predicted "youth vote". It's one thing to flip-flop on public financing or gun control, but off-shore drilling is a fault line neither he, nor the left-wing Democrats dare straddle, if they don't want the environmentalists abandoning ship for Nader. It would be really hard to persuade Ralphie boy not to mount a serious effort if Obama moves to McCain's side on drilling.

32 posted on 06/27/2008 12:27:32 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: Kaslin

I’m not against pols changing positions when the facts change. What makes a pol a hypocrite (and there are more than a few on the Republican side too) is changing positions just to get votes. Obviously McCain’s flip-flop on offshore drilling was such a move. But it was the correct one. However McCain is closely scrutinized and criticized by the right-wingers who want to put his feet to the fire. The lefties however will take whatever humiliation Obama stuffs down their throats and utter nary a peep.


33 posted on 06/27/2008 1:21:44 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Grunthor
With the Senate in Dim hands, the judges argument holds no water.

True--Chief Justice Roberts didn't get any democrat votes...uh, wait a minute...

The choice couldn't be simpler. I'm not saying it's a perfect choice, but it is THE choice. Who do you want to pick SCOTUS judges--Obama or McCain?

I love the attitude of "The Democrats have a majority, so we might as well just give up"--yep, THAT attitude will win voters to the Republicans!

34 posted on 06/27/2008 1:23:35 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: PaleoBob
"not gonna hold my nose"

The attacks on our country by Al-Qaeda including 9/11 were given ample boost by the neglectful policies of the Clinton admin. Obama would be much worse than even the Clintons. The risk of another successful attack would go up precipitously. That's why I'm going to hold my nose and vote for McCain.

35 posted on 06/27/2008 1:26:41 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: RedStateRocker
I agree with your comments about most candidates running to the left or right extremes before the nomination, but then racing to the center for the general election, but then why believe any of the “flip-flops” or any position taken because they are just speeches or words tailored to a specific moment or audience? The decline in confidence in government is partially due to the view that the voters are routinely deceived.
36 posted on 06/27/2008 1:36:35 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: goldstategop
No, he needs some of us, with our guns and our God-—or he needs for a lot of us to not vote.
37 posted on 06/27/2008 1:37:02 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Exactly. The cartoon is spot on.


38 posted on 06/27/2008 3:26:31 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Kaslin

"There's nothing holding me in place, I'm flippin', I'm floppin'...". ...

39 posted on 06/27/2008 3:44:14 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: potlatch

“I saw Krauthammer on Brit Hume today.”

The best thing about yesterday’s show was the fact that Mort wasn’t on. He really doesn’t have a clue.


40 posted on 06/27/2008 3:53:12 AM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: Kaslin

Beware Charles Krauthammer...on Fox last night he asserted that Stevens in the dissent was correct. Krauthammer is also on record for a right to an abortion.

Interesting that he sees no right to life spelled out in the Constitution, and that he sees no right to bear arms in the Constitution. They are, in fact, both explicitly stated.

The right to bear arms is, when one thinks about it, an extension of the right to life.


41 posted on 06/27/2008 3:57:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Kaslin

42 posted on 06/27/2008 4:55:30 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: goldstategop
This is still a center-right country.

You could've fooled me. I see little evidence of that anymore.

43 posted on 06/27/2008 4:57:54 AM PDT by sauropod (God created asphalt so yuppies can go four-wheeling.)
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To: xzins

Precisely.

Krauthammer is not a conservative.


44 posted on 06/27/2008 5:03:37 AM PDT by sauropod (God created asphalt so yuppies can go four-wheeling.)
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To: Kaslin
By the time he's finished, Obama will have made the Clintons look scrupulous.

Bump.

45 posted on 06/27/2008 5:05:15 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

LOL...sooooo true!!!!


46 posted on 06/27/2008 5:34:21 AM PDT by evad (.I.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Obama will win, big time. Americans are not going to vote for the high strung, rather luny statist Republican alternative.

Yah, all those bitter clinging gun-toting bible readers just can't wait to vote for an infanticidal commie maniac. McCain will win this easy, despite bambi's money and media advantage.

47 posted on 06/27/2008 6:03:24 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: PaleoBob

Welcome to FR.


48 posted on 06/27/2008 6:07:12 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: PhilDragoo
I forget who it was around here who said it first, but look at those eyes.

He can paint on a smile for the crowd and the cameras, but the eyes don't change.

49 posted on 06/27/2008 6:11:28 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

” I forget who it was around here who said it first, but look at those eyes.”

Not me, but as many say “ The eyes are the window to the soul”

Case in point.... Hillary..... Scary huh???


50 posted on 06/27/2008 6:19:34 AM PDT by patriotspride
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