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As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount
Israel Insider ^ | June 28, 2008 | June 28, 2008

Posted on 06/28/2008 1:19:52 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Alice in Wonderland; Red Steel
Obama's father was an exchange student in Hawaii and he may not have been exactly truthful as to his marital status at the time. But your point is brilliant; a marriage license and subsequent divorce proceedings are other items that ought to be looked into.

Hmmm....How did Ann Dunham feel about Second Wife status?
161 posted on 06/28/2008 10:37:30 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Red Steel

Tread carefully. This whole “Obama birth certificate” controversy may just be a plant by the Obama campaign to divert attention from the “Obama is a homosexual crackhead” controversy.


162 posted on 06/28/2008 10:40:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jellybean
I would think that would lend credence to the contention that the Obama BC was photoshopped. "See how easy it is to make one?"

Lots of things can be successfully photoshopped.

163 posted on 06/28/2008 10:43:42 PM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: hellbender
I think it would be easier to get the Vatican to give you a sample of the Shroud of Turin for destructive testing than to get either Hussein’s birth certificate or Kerry’s form 180.

Actually, the Vatican did that in 1988...

164 posted on 06/28/2008 10:52:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: BIGLOOK
he may not have been exactly truthful as to his marital status

I don't think it would have mattered to her if he had a wife or not. She wasn't thinking marital status when she bedded him. He was the exotic black man from another continent with a strange accent. They met in a Russian language class in September and she was pregnant by November.

165 posted on 06/28/2008 10:53:56 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: BIGLOOK

And if he was a Dunham, wouldn’t there have to court papers to change it to Obama legally?


166 posted on 06/28/2008 10:56:59 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Red Steel

Isn’t a certified birth certificate part of the required paperwork when registering to run for the office of President of the United States? And if not , why not? Something smells.


167 posted on 06/28/2008 11:08:20 PM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: BIGLOOK

Was he ever known as Barry Soetoro?


168 posted on 06/28/2008 11:13:08 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
And if he was a Dunham, wouldn’t there have to court papers to change it to Obama legally?

Yes....and no. Where do we start?

A valid Birth Certificate would be nice. Perhaps there is one that mustn't see the light of day.
169 posted on 06/28/2008 11:14:03 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
A senior official in the State of Hawaii's Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, confirms that the image published and circulated by the Obama campaign as his "birth certificate" lacks the necessary embossed seal and signature.

Imagine if this were about the Republican nominee.

As I recall, there *were* some questions earlier on about McCain's "eligibility". Now, it becomes quite apparent that this should be revisited, focusing on *who* was asking these questions and more importantly, *why*?

the infowarrior

170 posted on 06/28/2008 11:27:30 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Alice in Wonderland; Red Steel; Grampa Dave
I find Obama’s identity and documentation very curious. My father was career Navy and as a kid I lived all over the US. Then I was in the Navy and my specialty required a clearance and had a Background Investigation (BI) that took the better part of a year. The ONI and FBI and local and state LEOs participated, from NY to California to Virginia and Rhode Island. Grandpa Dave had the same but at the time we were just young men in the military and attending service schools. Anything would have shown up, any traffic ticket, any court appearance and certainly any name change. Information on our parents and relatives would have been on file too.

Obama seems to have avoided scrutiny of his personal life on his journey to attain the presidency other than the unfortunate associations with Wright, Rezco, Ayers and Farrakhan. It wouldn't surprise me if his tax records, medical records and travel records were suppressed from examination as well.

Barry Dunham, aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barak Obama is suspect.
171 posted on 06/28/2008 11:52:24 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: TigersEye
You’ve done your best. Nothing will stop the howling mob from chasing after moon shadows though.

Point well made.

172 posted on 06/28/2008 11:59:45 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Don’t stop trying. I just wanted you to know someone had read and understood your post.


173 posted on 06/29/2008 12:16:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. Freeedooommm!!!!!!)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks.


174 posted on 06/29/2008 12:23:56 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Swordmaker

Yes, but only after years of requests, and only a tiny sample was given to carefully chosen researchers. In contrast, Kerry’s form 180 remains invisible, and so will Hussein’s birth certificate. Even Hillary and Sandy Burglar can’t get it.


175 posted on 06/29/2008 4:26:06 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: BIGLOOK

In reference to that I just posted this on another thread but seems relevant here too.

http://nicole-hillaryclintonforpresident.blogspot.com/2008/06/fightthesmearscom-smear-barack-obamas.html

In order to run for office in Illinois, a candidate must file a statement of candidacy which states in part that the person is qualified for the office he seeks (see 10 ILCS 5/7-10). Senator Obama filed such a statement when he petitioned to be on the ballot seeking to be the Democratic Party nominee for President. However, unless an objection is filed, the candidate need not provide proof that he is qualified for office. The objection period was in early November of last year, and no objection was filed to Senator Obama’s candidacy which would require him to show anyone a birth certificate. Therefore, the Illinois State Board of Elections has no documentation of Senator Obama’s birth.”


Then- there’s this:

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

Did Obama Keep Any Records From His Years in the State Legislature?

Very few Americans had heard of Barack Obama before his 2004 Democratic Convention speech. On his life and career before then, we have only a few sources to go on. Two autobiographical books written by Obama, one of which features composite and fictional characters; David Mendell’s biography Obama: From Promise to Power; and the coverage of the Chicago and other Illinois media from when Obama entered elected office in 1996 or so. The local press would probably admit that for many of the eight years Obama was in the state legislature, he was not a terribly high-profile figure.

Ordinarily in cases like this, those who wanted to know more about a candidate’s rise to the pinnacle of American politics would look at his record, or specifically, his records of what he did, what his actions were, as a legislator. Who did he contact within the state government, and what did he urge them to do? What were his priorities when he was not under such a glaring national spotlight? And in the past, Obama and his staff have encouraged just that:

Earlier this year, campaign spokesman [Ben] LaBolt asked The Associated Press to narrow a request for records on whether Obama had ever urged clemency for a convicted criminal.

“You’re asking us to do an extremely exhaustive search into every record we have from the U.S. Senate and state Senate offices,” LaBolt said at the time. At the news conference in Iowa last week, Obama said he didn’t “have a whole bunch of records from those years,” but told reporters to “let us know” if there are “particular documents that you are interested in.”

Except later in 2007, the campaign stated those records no longer existed. “LaBolt said Obama did not keep any correspondence with the general public. Ditto for letters to or from state associations and lobbyists, memos on legislation and correspondence with Illinois state agencies. The campaign said Illinois agencies have copies of his requests for information or help, but accessing those records would involve contacting the agencies and asking them to comb though eight years of records to find correspondence from Obama.”

06/27 08:10 AM


176 posted on 06/29/2008 4:32:48 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: xkaydet65

I think Kerry felt the same way about the Swiftboats.

It’s only July. We’re asking this man to simply come forth and prove his ancestry. Instead of confronting this routine question head on, he stonewalls with questionable unclear documents and other smoke screens.

Produce your birth records from the hospital where you were born. Show us a birth certificate with you foot prints. Show us proof of your parents marriage, etc.

You’re running for the president of the United States. These are basic questions that any candidate should address HONESTLY AND FORTHRIGHTLY.


177 posted on 06/29/2008 5:46:10 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: Grampa Dave

When I look at both COB’s I see a bigger area around the edge of the “real” certificate unlike BO’s. From the edge of the are where it says CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH to the edge of the paper is smaller than the original/real COB, like someone made it and made sure to get the COB to the size of the paper. Am I making sense? Not enough coffee this morning if I don’t LOL I count 3 and a half lines (going left to right) on the real one and only 1 and a half on BO’s.


178 posted on 06/29/2008 7:51:47 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj

“When I look at both COB’s I see a bigger area around the edge of the “real” certificate unlike BO’s. From the edge of the are where it says CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH to the edge of the paper is smaller than the original/real COB, like someone made it and made sure to get the COB to the size of the paper. Am I making sense? Not enough coffee this morning if I don’t LOL I count 3 and a half lines (going left to right) on the real one and only 1 and a half on BO’s.”

Most of us see many variables/differences between the real COB and the false/fake one on the pro Obama site.


179 posted on 06/29/2008 7:55:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama is like our very own American Mugabe!)
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To: jellybean; R_Kangel; Polarik; pissant

I guessing he did (make it). The certificate number is the same as the Decosta one. The “3930” relates to year born - 1930 as opposed to 3961 - 1961.


180 posted on 06/29/2008 8:23:38 AM PDT by gopheraj
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