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To: Red Steel

Why is the certificate # blacked out?

African is not a race! In 1961, wouldn't Negro or Negroid have been used to describe his Father's race instead of African?

Where is the indentation of the official seal and the folded marks, the rest of us have on our valid birth certificate copies?

Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there?

Did Dan Blather's inept liar/forger, Mary Mapes create this bs?

Is this phoney birth certificate just another example of the Real but Fake Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate for Changing America?

Compare this doctored and phoney BC with a real one shown below:

We probably have as much chance of seeing a real copy of his birth certificate as seeing John Kerry’s full military record. Kerry refused to release his military records, and Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate will probably not show his BC. We will be labeled as racists for daring to question his birth.

8 posted on 06/28/2008 1:27:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: Grampa Dave

This green form is what is issued today. BUT, my original birth certificate from the Territory of Hawaii (1957) and I believe also into the 60s looks absolutely nothing like this green form. This form simply takes information on file and puts it on a new form, then “certifies” it by the registrar. The original is something completely different. I have both my adopted birth certificate and later filed one for live birth in Hawaii. Totally different from the modern form and it also has a lot more information like place of birth, doctor, etc.

I thought the real rub here was he did not want to highlight his middle name Hussein?!?


12 posted on 06/28/2008 1:33:47 PM PDT by Liberals are Evil Socialists!
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To: Grampa Dave
African is not a race! In 1961, wouldn't Negro or Negroid have been used to describe his Father's race instead of African?

Good point. Find a few hundred birth cetificates of blacks/negroes/negoid from Honolulu and see if they all read "African."

20 posted on 06/28/2008 1:41:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Grampa Dave

That sure doesn’t look like the real thing, does it?


33 posted on 06/28/2008 1:55:20 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (<----- Typical White Person)
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To: Grampa Dave

why does Obama’s in the lower lefthand corner say OHBM 1.1 while the “real” other one say OHSM 1.1?

Personal I think the fonts match perfectly and the letter spacing & kerning match exactly. I think Obama’s is real.


34 posted on 06/28/2008 1:55:23 PM PDT by RC51
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To: Grampa Dave

“Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there? “
It reads, “XXX-6 2007.”
I can’t make out the month. Hold down your Control key and scroll wheel in.


51 posted on 06/28/2008 2:13:15 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Grampa Dave; Red Steel; pissant
Know what bothers me about all this brouhaha about Obama's Birth Certificate, Dave? As stated above, the whole thing can be cleared up in a week (probably less) for $10 and a Forever Stamp. That's all it'd take.....instead there's forgery and a BS story fueling the fire over natural born citizenship status.

There's no sensitive information in a Birth Certificate. Obama has nothing to lose by providing proof.
54 posted on 06/28/2008 2:24:54 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Notice that the print border hatchwork is totally different in patern and density.
As well, the typeset is much more bold on the known legitimate copy as opposed to Obie’s very questionable facsimile.
The folds are so distinct as is the official stamp and certification,ertificare totally missing on Obie’s alleged Birth Certificate.
Obie, it’s only $10.00, buy yourself an actual certified copy of your Birth Certificate! Obie, I DARE YOU! Are You are real U.S. Citizen or again have We caught You in a major Fraudulent Lie?? Easy to Answer, Obie, IF you are telling the Truth! Hard to answer, Obie, if You are lieing as it seems usual!!!!!!!!


93 posted on 06/28/2008 3:20:31 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Grampa Dave

Or Bill Clinton’s MEDICAL RECORDS released.

That faded away too.


111 posted on 06/28/2008 3:59:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Grampa Dave

Actually, Kerry didn’t refuse to release his military records, he said he did release them, end of story. Obama grasped the Daily Kos’ photoshop “birth certificate” and now claims they’ve release his birth certificate.


129 posted on 06/28/2008 4:39:34 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Friends don't let friends buy into Dem propaganda.)
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To: Grampa Dave

When I look at both COB’s I see a bigger area around the edge of the “real” certificate unlike BO’s. From the edge of the are where it says CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH to the edge of the paper is smaller than the original/real COB, like someone made it and made sure to get the COB to the size of the paper. Am I making sense? Not enough coffee this morning if I don’t LOL I count 3 and a half lines (going left to right) on the real one and only 1 and a half on BO’s.


178 posted on 06/29/2008 7:51:47 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Grampa Dave

No. What We the People can always do is petition the Supreme Court to rule on this issue....


182 posted on 06/29/2008 8:35:38 AM PDT by mo
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To: Grampa Dave

Both documents have identical revision lines. They say “OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) Laser”

But obviously they are not the same forms. The first one has a lattice pattern border and the second one has a solid black border.

Generally when a form is updated, they change the revision number. That is the purpose of revision numbers. Being a government agency it is possible that the people hired to be in charge of forms have no idea what a revision number is or its purpose (and hence just left it despite changing the design) but it’s another open question.


196 posted on 06/29/2008 2:13:30 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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