Research Casts New Light On History Of North America

Newswise ^ | 7-1-2008 | Valparaiso University

[blam]

GGG Ping.

Thanks to Red Badger for the article.

[swmobuffalo]

So does this make them “indians”?

[RightWhale]

When to stop laughing. America is the oldest continent and everyplace else was populated from here. America’s old stuff is twice as old as the Old World’s old stuff. Horses, camels, people, and turkeys.

[LS]

Guess we could say Columbus was merely “reclaiming his homeland?”

[Red Badger]

No, it makes them (GASP!) Dead White Europeans!..............

[Red Badger]

The ancient Americans rode their camels and horses across the Bering land bridge.........sorta like SUV’s of the day.................

[Red Badger]

Yet it also supports research showing that North American Clovis points – a particular type of arrowhead that represents the oldest manmade object on the continent –identically match arrowheads found in Europe and made by humans at approximately the same time.

That's the part I like..............

[kbennkc]

The first white Americans were descended from Big Foots , or Feet . They then traveled to Europe and Africa to sell cocaine and tobacco .

[Gritty]

So, when can my European-extraction family and I open our own tribal casino on our extra back lot?

[blam]

"That's the part I like.............."

You'll like this one then:

Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)

[DManA]

Now can I start a casino?

[SunkenCiv]

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[pabianice]

This is why “native Americans” hysterically demand to rebury without examination all human remains found. The evidence is now overwhelming that the first Americans were Europeans who sailed here first. The “native Americans” are descended from a much later immigration by foot over the bearing Sea land bridge. Once here they murdered to extinction the earlier settlers. Kind of puts a kink in the whole “native Americans victimized by Europeans” schtick.

[blam]

Vintage Skulls

"The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas.

Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.

[Cronos]

So does this make them “indians”?

Well, no, since Columbus made a mistake when he thought he had reached the rich lands of India in 1492.

[Cronos]

No, it makes them (GASP!) Dead White Europeans!..............

Not really as 10,000 years ago, the ice age was just about retreating and the races weren't as clearly defined as now. There were the Sub-saharan Bantu and Khoisan people and the Australoids (in Papua New Guinea,Melanesia, Australia) and the Eurasian peoples. The Eurasians weren't clearly defined into Mongoloid and Caucasian groups and there were no "white" groups -- well there still isn't a "white race" -- there are the Caucasians but that also includes Semites (Jews and Arabs) and Dravidians (Tamils) and Aryans (which includes Europeans, Russians, Iranis and Indians).

The entire relationships would have been very close at that time, considering that the world's population would have been about a million odd people or less.

[Cronos]

So, when can my European-extraction family and I open our own tribal casino on our extra back lot?

European tribes were still active until the 9th and 10th centuries (Germanics, DAcians, Slavics, MAgyar, Finno-Baltics, Vikings etc.) and they were only civilised about a millenium ago, thanks to Rome and it's daughter Byzantium.

If your ancestry is any of those above, then you are only about 500 to 600 years close to the tribal nature of native Americans when Europeans landed.

If your ancestry is southern European, i.e Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Greek, then your ancestry is responsible for the civilising of Europe and the Americas but you haven't been part of a "tribe" since circa 500 BC

Finally, even if you are of European extraction, you're most likely not descended from those first settlers who came from the east rather than the west into the Americas. The genes of those settlers would be in those descended from native americans

[Cronos]

This is why “native Americans” hysterically demand to rebury without examination all human remains found. The evidence is now overwhelming that the first Americans were Europeans who sailed here first. The “native Americans” are descended from a much later immigration by foot over the bearing Sea land bridge. Once here they murdered to extinction the earlier settlers. Kind of puts a kink in the whole “native Americans victimized by Europeans” schtick.
Bthat's being hysterical and quite inaccurate.

Who says the first Americans sailed here -- sailing wasn't well known until later. Secondly, there was no such thing as "Europeans" -- both the Mongoloid/Altaic people who the native Americans are supposedly descended from and the present day Europeans come from the same stock of humans who were cut off from Africa and spread over Eurasia. The separation of races happened only later as populations grew and people became less nomadic -- witness the Tocharians living in Xinjiang.

Finally, those peoples who came from the east into the Americas would have been absorbed by the ones coming from the west (or vice-versa) and the present day "native aMericans" would be descended from this mix, hence their differentiation between northern and central americans and south American natives.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

It seems that this entire subject is now in a complete state of confusion, chronology is in great doubt, and the ethnic origins of America are virtually totally conjecture. I will hold off on guessing until there is more widely accepted data.