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Obama - Not Born in the USA?
MacRanger Radio Show ^ | Jun 29, 2008 | Jack Moss

Posted on 07/01/2008 1:03:52 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: GRRRRR

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/06/the-missing-oba.html


181 posted on 07/01/2008 8:14:49 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6; GRRRRR; MississippiMan
The Obama Birth Certificate seal is absolutely bogus.

I recreated the FReeper Polarik test using the image software GIMP.

A week ago, I downloaded from the official Obama website "Fight the Smears" Obama's birth certificate. The 'Edge Detect' filter did not show the "embossed seal" on the BC.

Today, I downloaded the Obama birth certificate from the KOS webite, I used the same image filter test to the KOS BC as I did with the one from the Obama campaign website, and walla, the image of the seal pops into view.

Conclusion: the image of the "embossed seal" on the KOS BC is fake.

182 posted on 07/01/2008 8:47:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: hollister23
The real white grandmother is deceased.

The "grandmother" who counts and who was purportedly present when he was born in Kenya is not his grandmother at all but was one of the other wives of his father. It is her that the campaign has made off limits for the obvious reason that she knows facts that the campaign does not want revealed.

183 posted on 07/01/2008 8:51:59 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: David
CORRECTION TO #183: Modified to read: The "grandmother" who counts and who was purportedly present when he was born in Kenya is not his grandmother at all but was one of the other wives of his grandfather.
184 posted on 07/01/2008 8:54:43 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Red Steel

IIRC, the KOS one never showed the seal. The one from Obama’s site always did.

http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg


185 posted on 07/01/2008 8:57:39 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: nikos1121

Damn! (index)


186 posted on 07/01/2008 9:00:00 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Calpernia
I don’t even understand how Obama could have gotten security clearance as CIC. The Luo tribe was/is the controlling stronghold of Mombasa and controlls all the smuggling routes for Al Qaeda. Mombasa was the base for the base for the 1998 embassy bombings.

Interesting point. I don't think the Commander in Chief needs a security clearance but on the other hand, his position would involve significant conflicts of interest.

I oppose Obama on the whole list of substantive grounds. I oppose all of his policies from tax to foreign policy and national security and I am concerned about his anti-Judeao/Christian ethical background--and his fundamental beliefs are at best Socialist.

But as a pro-Constitution lawyer, I observe that violating inconvenient Constitutional provisions on political grounds is the slippery slope down which our Constitutional rights and privileges will slide.

187 posted on 07/01/2008 9:05:51 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: ltc8k6
Nope.


The KOS site BC only shows the hidden seal found by filtering. The BC from the Obama campaign website did not.

And it was KOS who originally sent the Obama birth certificate to the Obama campaign website, and the Obama people embraced it as "genuine."

188 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: David
"Further, the Supreme Court isn't going to let Congress define the Constitutional provision with the citizenship statute--otherwise, Congress would have the power to amend the Constitution without complying with the Amendment provisions."

...... and we all know that only the Supreme Court is allowed to amend the Constitution without going through the specified Amendment provisions!!!!
189 posted on 07/01/2008 9:29:41 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMA: "That's not the Wesley Clark I knew!")
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To: David

No, Madelyn Dunham is 85 and living in Honolulu, reportedly in the same apartment high-rise building where she raised Obama from age 11 to 18. She has kept totally out of the campaign limelight and refused virtually all interview requests, whether by her preference or not.... certainly the Obama campaign has been determined to run him entirely as a “black” candidate and not as a true bi-racial candidate.

Madelyn Dunham is really the only grandma he ever knew, but the campaign has trotted out a bogus Kenyan grandmother to fill out his fictional stories.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-07-obamagrandma_N.htm


190 posted on 07/01/2008 9:42:59 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMA: "That's not the Wesley Clark I knew!")
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To: David
David, it appears that you know quite a lot on how to interpret the law. I don't know how accurate this is but the below link is a site that tells what the law was for citizenship depending on the year you were born. This can be found on page 2. The requirements have changed throughout the years. Since Barack Obama was born in 1961 the law that was in place from 1952 to 1986 seems to apply to him. This would be the 10 year period. 5 years before the age of 16 and 5 years after the age of 18.

In 1986 this was changed to 5 years before the age of 14 and 2 years after the age of 14. (So some may say he fits in this, but I don't see anywhere where it says it was retroactive back to any previous years.

The only time I remember where it indicated any of the changes was retroactive was when it finally included the mother as being one of the citizens where before it only applied to the father being a citizen.

Findlaw

Do you think this web site is a good source?

191 posted on 07/01/2008 10:35:53 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: ltc8k6; Red Steel; MississippiMan
I know the one with the seal now on Obama's certificate is a fake. If you look at the one put up on DailyKos showing only the front of Obama's certificate that date of June 6, 2007 is backwards bleeding through to the front. So is the date on the certificate of that woman's (I can't remember her name) anyway we can see her seal bleeding through real good to the front. So the one they are now showing of Obama's seal is from the backside since we see June 6, 2007 reading correctly, we then should see the seal showing up REAL GOOD, but we don't.

There is definitely something fishy going on here.

192 posted on 07/01/2008 11:39:43 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: ltc8k6
"IIRC, the KOS one never showed the seal. The one from Obama’s site always did."

Where do you see an embossed seal on the certificate from this website you just posted?

193 posted on 07/01/2008 11:42:41 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: K-oneTexas
I have read your post and as I read each sentence, my anger grew until a light went on. I think it is time to put a call to the United States Attorney General, Michael Mukasey and demand that he have Barack Obama’s birth certificate released.

Here goes . . .

194 posted on 07/02/2008 1:00:04 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: ltc8k6

Even giving Obama every benefit of doubt to include maybe having a cheap scanner and/or saying that not a one of his folks can scan at higher resolution is slightly plausible to a degree. Wrong, as these folks triple check what the send/post.

I would think providing the real birth certificate would help him. So, why not provide it? The real birth cerificate and/or a decent scan of the current one could not hurt him?

If a cheap scanner and/or worn out copy is the problem- why not use a better scanner and/or get a new birth certificate copy certified and/or snail mail it to a credible source?

The copy he provided is lame. If I used a DD-214 like that for VA benefits or any Vet organization for membership, I would be asked for a better copy.

FACT.

Why not provide evidence that Obama signed up for Selective Service, too? Heck, there was no draft then. Why not provide that, too.?

Why put out any document that appears poorly copied at best from the DNC?


195 posted on 07/02/2008 1:01:29 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Non-Sequitur

There was no question as to where they were born.


196 posted on 07/02/2008 1:06:59 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: K-oneTexas

Here is the letter I wrote to the U.S. Attorney General:

Most Honerable Michael Mukasey,

There has been considerable frustration among a huge number of citizens about Presidental Candidate Barack H. Obama’s true place of birth. We have word that he may have been born in Kenya.

If Barack Obama’s mother gave birth to Barack in Kenya she did not meet the 5 year residency in the U.S. after the age of 16 because she was 18 when she gave birth. The bottom line is that if he was born in Kenya, which I believe he clearly was, he just is not a citizen under the statute Sec. 1401(g) and he is not eligible to serve as President under Article II, Sec. 1, Par. 4.

How can we get the State of Hawaii to release the official birth certificate of Barack Obama? We are told he was born in Kapliolani Medical Center (according to Wikipedia) in Honolulu, Hawaii. However, Obama’s brother, sister and Kenyan grandmother all insist he was born in Kenya!

It is time we have answers and that they be released to the press.

Regards,

(My Name and Address)


197 posted on 07/02/2008 1:56:05 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46

Good for you!

Obama may or may not have known where he had been born as a child but its quite obvious that he does now and the fact that he’s lending his support to fraudulent documentation about his birth gives a pretty good indication that it wasn’t in the U.S.


198 posted on 07/02/2008 2:48:55 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: David

>>>>I don’t think the Commander in Chief needs a security clearance....

I never knew that. Thanks.


199 posted on 07/02/2008 3:42:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Spunky; tuckrdout
Does anyone know if his birth name was Barack Hussein Obama or Barry Soetoro? And why did he go to Pakistan and India after he changed his name to Barack from Barry?

This was posted on another thread, tuckrdout talks about Obama’s name change.

As a matter of fact, Mr. Obama did change his name..went by the name, “Barry Soetoro” until college. Then he had some kind of conversion that made him want to suddenly go by his muslim name. And shortly after that, he travelled to Karachi, and spent 3 weeks there. What red blooded American College kid, besides John Walker Lindh, goes to Pakistan, for a vacation? There are no movie theaters, no booze, no bars, no music...and the girls are all covered up! This is where Osama Bin Laden’s #2 man was found and killed. Al Qa’eda has a big foot hold in this city...after being there for 3 weeks, Obama then went over to Hyderabad, the large Muslim stronghold in India, for another week. These are not vacation hot spots! Why did he go there; to where the terror cells were born?

I am not seeing a Christians denunciation of Islam, in Obama, and a strong witness to the changing power of Jesus Christ, in his life.

Part of the Muslim “Jihad”, is that it is okay to lie, to pretend not to be Muslim, when trying to bring Islam to Christians. It is called, “Hudaibiyah Treaty”—which means, “kiss the hand of your enemy until you can cut it off!”

If a Muslim is on Jihad to destroy the “great satan America”, from within, and knew that he had to be a Christian to be elected President of the United States, what kind of church would he join? He couldn’t stand to hear about Jesus being the only way, week after week. Seems he would want to join a church that instead praises muslim leaders from Libya and the Nation of Islam, and spouts curses on the United States.

I would have to hear Obama renounce Islam, personally. Say that he does NOT believe that allah is the only God, and muhammad is his only prophet, to believe that he is not an undercover muslim on jihad. That is what it is going to take. If he is a believer in Jesus Christ as the son of God; who lived and died for our sins, and was raised again from the dead...if he will say these things, I would feel much better about him. I will not worry that he is really out to finish the job started on 9-11.

But, all his associations point to deception and anti American sentiment. I do not believe that he has the best interest of our Country at heart. I believe that the man wants to destroy our nation, as we know it. He is telling us flat out that he is going to Change our nation. We don’t want his kind of change!

tuckrdout

200 posted on 07/02/2008 4:18:43 AM PDT by hollister23
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