[K-oneTexas]

Having been in law enforcement you can not conclusively state 'altered, counterfeit or fraud' from facsimiles or copies. The original document must be examined.

The blocking out could have to do with the privacy statutes in Hawaii, seeing as the document itself is covered in that State. So, at this point the State of Hawaii needs to step up and say what's what or produce a bona fide certificate.

This is really becoming reminiscent of a couple of months back as some trying to say McCain was not a citizen and therefore he couldn't run for the Office of President of the United States.

If Kerry will not sign an SF180 why should Obama do anything else but maintain everyone else is wrong. It's the 'Dem Way'. All our conjecture amounts to a hill of beans. I was never going to vote for him anyway. If he's a fraud so are so many other Dems and politicians in general ... nothing new.

[nikos1121]

Your points are well taken however,

1. There is nothing private about the certificate number. The Decosta BC shows the year she was born, and perhaps the number of births up to that time. What is private about that. It comes that the document is traceable.

2. McCain produced everything, and I’m sure this was vetted when he ran four years ago. Why are we pulling teeth here with the Obama Camp, and why did he wait until Hillary was out of the picture?

3. Everything that we know about Obama is from his own auto-bio. Conspicuously lacking are eye witnesses of his early life and his family here in the USA.

4. The grandmother is sequestered. Why?

5. I would think providing proof that you qualify to run for the office of president is determined by Congress? or is the courts? Has this process taken place?

6. The KOS BC is a certificate of live birth, it is NOT the original birth certificate. Where is the original birth certificate? I would think it’s on microfiche.

7. I have searched using pay sites such as Ancestry.com and have found NO listing for Obama or his mother’s marriage. True, this doesn’t prove anything, but it seems odd doesn’t it?

8. Why is it that two hospitals are listed as his place of birth. Wikipedia lists Kapliolani Medical Center, and other sites list Queens Hospital.

9. I’ve seen posts, and I think this is also on The ObamaFile website, where it is “rumored” that Kenyan family members told media early on that Obama was born there. Libya’s Kaddafi says he was born in Kenya and that Obama is lying about it.

10. I would think that as we speak the FBI or Homeland Security or someone has agents on this subject. As a law enforcement officer what say you?