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Black pastors wary of Obama
The Washington Times ^ | July 4, 2008 | Julia Duin

Posted on 07/04/2008 5:02:47 AM PDT by Eurale

Conservative black pastors nationwide are caught between irreconcilable opposites - congregations that overwhelmingly favor Sen. Barack Obama versus their personal doubts about the Illinois Democrat's politics, particularly on abortion. "It's a theological contradiction, from the Christian perspective, to be excited about Obama," said the Rev. Levon Yuille, pastor of the 100-member Bible Church in Ypsilanti, Mich. "Very few black pastors have problems supporting Obama because they are fixated on this race thing."

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1 posted on 07/04/2008 5:02:47 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eurale
Black pastors wary of Obama

All pastors, priests, and rabbis should be wary of Obama.

2 posted on 07/04/2008 5:15:19 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Eurale
Very few black pastors have problems supporting Obama because they are fixated on this race thing."

Again, proving that the only real racists in America are the blacks!

3 posted on 07/04/2008 5:16:33 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: TexasRedeye

If Obama gets the presidency it will set blacks back at least 2 generations. He’ll make the peanut farmer look like a genius.


4 posted on 07/04/2008 5:20:14 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: Eurale

Hearing black self-described “conservatives” say that they disagree with almost all of Obama’s positions, but will still vote for him anyway has been one of the most disappointing things about this political year. Race uber alles. If they won’t walk the walk when faced with a choice between values and race, how can whites conservatives be expected to vote for black candidates?

I predict race releations will be much worse after this election no matter what happens, though perhaps more clarified.


5 posted on 07/04/2008 5:24:40 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: TexasRedeye
Again, proving that the only real racists in America are the blacks!

A rant, I guess! Sorry. I get really upset that if a person supports Obama BECAUSE he is black (or at lest half-black) it is a wonderful, uplifting, progressive thing. But if a person rejects him BECAUSE he is black - that is RACISTS and is screamed from the highest rooftop!

A huge majority of the Afro-American community admit that the ONLY reason they support Obama is BECAUSE he is BLACK!!!!! Why won't the MSM call it like it is! They are RACISTS!!!!!

6 posted on 07/04/2008 5:31:13 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: TexasRedeye

again proving just how apostate the church in this country has become.
I’m sure Christ is OK with putting race ahead of sound doctrine and calling sin what it is. /s


7 posted on 07/04/2008 5:31:48 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Eurale
He does not take a true position as it relates to his own Christianity.

Yes, he certainly does. He votes exactly as he believes.

I know plenty of "Christian Democrats." It's quite entertaining to watch them struggle with trying to serve two masters.

8 posted on 07/04/2008 5:34:16 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (waste the afternoon with bruck: vobns.blogspot.com)
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To: xtinct

I wonder which Bible they use at Revrum Wrong’s “church.” Black liberation theology and christianity have nothing in common, thus their source document (Bible) should be entirely different. Does anyone know what the UCC uses as a Bible?


9 posted on 07/04/2008 5:35:46 AM PDT by Eurale
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"McCain's stance on stem cell research and his lack of spiritual input makes it a lot tougher saying he is the right guy,"

See, when you do not have a candidate who is CLEARLY different from the other guy across the board, it blurs the lines and allows people to vote on inconsequential stuff, like race, sex, last name, whatever.

10 posted on 07/04/2008 5:36:04 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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Actually they saved the best points of the article for last:

"McCain's stance on stem cell research and his lack of spiritual input makes it a lot tougher saying he is the right guy," he said. "We can't say, 'Don't vote for Obama' when McCain is this weak."

I couldn't agree more. This year I'm voting "against" rather than "for."

"I will find it difficult to vote for either of the candidates," Mr. Yuille said. "It is very distressing to me the black pulpit is so compromised on politics...

You and me both, pal.

11 posted on 07/04/2008 5:45:33 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (waste the afternoon with bruck: vobns.blogspot.com)
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To: xtinct

All pastors, priests, and rabbis should be wary of the Democratic party, it’s full of baby butchers. Republicans and the MSM never challenge Democrats on terminating normal, healthy pregnancies. ‘Safe, legal rare’ is deady slogan, which could be countered with, ‘Restrict, Confine, SAVE’.


12 posted on 07/04/2008 5:49:48 AM PDT by Son House ( BMT==> Babies, Military, Taxes: Just say NO To Democrats!)
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To: xtinct
"All pastors, priests, and rabbis should be wary of Obama."

So should all those that inhale oxygen.

13 posted on 07/04/2008 5:51:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Eurale

But they’re all still going to vote for him!


14 posted on 07/04/2008 5:51:51 AM PDT by airborne (End the "open primary" system now!!! Only Republicans should vote in Republican primaries!)
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To: Eurale
This is going to be a tricky problem for a lot of people, but especially so for blacks. Looking back through our history on our country's birthday, it is obvious that few have gone through more changes than black Americans.

From first being considered property to not being a whole person in the voting booth to not being allowed full access to public restrooms or public transportation or even military service, the Black American experience is not like any other American's. It's not been a matter of a glass ceiling, but rather the open, blatant, officially sanctioned "Whites only" "No Negroes Allowed" discrimination that the 1960s finally ended.

So, while no black man or woman living today was a slave, almost all have known an America, either personally or through their parents, that did not consider them as being created equal. And, for many, no number of Oprahs or Robert Johnsons or any other successful black Americans are going to remove those experiences from memory.

Nor will a President Obama, but voting for him will be a step forward that few blacks thought they would ever take. It's just too bad that it is Obama instead of someone whose principles, values, beliefs and character would move us all forward, regardless of skin color.

President Obama will worsen the racial divide. He just may have what it takes to become president, but not what it takes to lead the country.

15 posted on 07/04/2008 5:58:07 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Eurale
One of the most damaging effects Hussein Obama and his colleagues have had is to bring hardcore racism out of the closet.

While I truly don't look at people in terms of race or ethnicity but solely in terms of character, after I heard the Rev. Wright clips and that Hussein Obama stayed in those pews for 20 years and had that demented racist ‘baptize’ his children, it made me start wondering if every black I passed was ‘one of them,’ meaning a race-centric Marxist who would do anything to take control of the country and turn whites into subjects.

Blacks who disagree with this black liberation theology need to speak out loud and clear so that we know we can all work together to strengthen this county and truly heal the wounds of racism.

16 posted on 07/04/2008 6:01:10 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: GBA

Your comments are correct - with one exception. The “War on Poverty” forever connected the belief of victimization with compensation from the treasury. Thus, entitlement socialism was founded, which will always link blacks voting in the direction of victim compensation. In many ways, and $7.2 trillion later, blacks have devolved from their culture of the 1950’s. Until the connection between money and victimization is broken, blacks will gleefully remain on the plantation that feeds them.


17 posted on 07/04/2008 6:06:00 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: TexasRedeye

But if a person said they were voting for McCain, the ‘white guy’, they would be considered vile. Which they would be vile in my opinion if that was their only consideration. But the same can be said for both sides.


18 posted on 07/04/2008 6:07:48 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: GBA
It's just too bad that it is Obama instead of someone whose principles, values, beliefs and character would move us all forward, regardless of skin color. President Obama will worsen the racial divide. He just may have what it takes to become president, ...

Only because he is BLACK when he wants to be! Can 99% of Americans vote for a black man - a resounding YES! Can about half of Americans NOT vote for this black man - also YES! It has absolutely nothing to do with color. As the posts says, he has no principles, values, beliefs or character that will move this country forward.

He is only BLACK!

19 posted on 07/04/2008 6:08:51 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: GBA

You are absolutely correct. There are many Americans who remember sitting at the back of the bus, or treated as second class citizens. And the stories that have passed down to their children are still very real to them. Even if no one in my generation has ever experienced that, they have through the pain of their parents.

But Barack isn’t the answer for them personally. Other than to wash out perceptions. The reality will be much worse and I don’t think anyone understands that.

And none of them seem to understand Barack himself doesn’t come with those experiences either. Nor did his father. So if they are looking to him for sympathy, he can’t offer it. Sure he might have had some negative experiences in his lifetime, heck weren’t we all teased at some point for something? An d his wife is bitter enough for the both of them, but he did not experience the Civil Rights Movement. So how is he the one to correct the wrongs inflicted on black americans?


20 posted on 07/04/2008 6:13:20 AM PDT by autumnraine
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