Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

US police won’t tell me why they shot my son, says mother
The Irish Independent ^ | Friday July 04 2008 | Louise Hogan

Posted on 07/04/2008 7:08:28 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

THE distraught mother of a young Irishman shot dead by a policeman in the United States broke down in tears yesterday as she revealed how she had been left "begging for information" on how he met his violent death.

Andrew Hanlon (20), who had travelled to the US a year ago to stay with his sister in Silverton, Oregon, was killed by a police officer responding to a burglary on Monday night. Neighbours reported several shots were fired.

His heartbroken mother, Dorothea Hanlon-Carroll, from Dundrum, Dublin, was yesterday being comforted by three of her children as they tried to come to terms with the tragedy.

But the family last night said they were being kept "totally out of the loop" by US police investigating the shooting.

"I'm terrified of a closed-shop cover-up, that my son will be just swept under the carpet," Dorothea said.

A short statement from the Marion County District Attorney's Office said officer Tony Gonzalez encountered Mr Hanlon when he responded to a burglary call in the town around 11.18pm. He had shot and killed him, the statement said, but did not elaborate any further on the reasons why the officer opened fire on Mr Hanlon.

Fatal

The County Sheriff's office is now investigating the fatal shooting. The officer involved has been placed on administrative leave -- a standard procedure.

Silverton police chief Rick Lewis said he understands the community's desire to know what happened, but said investigations should not be hurried.

Speaking from her home in Silverton, Mr Hanlon's sister, Melanie Heise, said the multi-task outside agency investigating the shooting could take several weeks. But she said the family, who are anxious for more information, were being kept in the dark about developments. There was no suggestion her brother had any involvement in any crime, she said.

His mother, who had last spoken to him a few months ago, said her son was shot while walking to her daughter's home. He was only a few hundred yards away from his destination when he died.

Ms Hanlon described her artistic son, as a very "sociable young man".

"He did have a heart of gold, he was a softie," she said. She added: "No amount of answers from this police force is going to bring my son back but I need to know why... he can't be brought back, that is the bottom line."

Mr Hanlon was living illegally in the US after his holiday visas had expired. His sister said he had begun to have psychological problems over the past few months.

"He was never actually diagnosed with any psychological problems but he went in and out of delusions and paranoia and stuff like that," she said.

Ms Heise said her brother was "not that kind of kid" who would carry a gun or weapon.

The tight-knit community of Silverton have held a public protest in the town.

Appalled

"People are appalled because they want to know why there was such excessive forced used," his sister said. She queried why a taser stun gun was not used instead.

Speaking in Silverton, Aerial Burton said her friend, Mr Hanlon, had issues but he had not owned a weapon and had no criminal record.

"I don't understand why," said Ms Burton, who was holding a teddy bear which she said belonged to Mr Hanlon. "People need to know he was a good person with a big heart."

Marie Carthy, a sister of John Carthy, the man shot dead by gardai during a 25-hour siege at his home in Abbeylara, Co Longford, yesterday urged the Hanlon family to keep going until to "get the truth".

Members of the public generously pledged funds to help the Hanlon family after his mother told RTE's 'Liveline' programme that she was unable to fly out to the US or repatriate the body due to the cost involved.

The radio station confirmed people had offered "more than enough" to cover costs. "You've got to go and you've got to find out what happened to your baby," Mrs Hanlon was told.

Mr Hanlon is being mourned by his sister Melanie in the US, and sisters Mary-Kate and Danielle, brother Eamon and step-dad Justin in Ireland. Ms Hanlon said she would never be able to tell people how much it meant to her to be able to bring her son back to Ireland.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: aliens; donutwatch; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; oregon
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
I don't know the circumstances here but a young Irishman has been shot by police in the US, from what I can gather he appears to have had some mental problems and for what relevance it is worth he was in the country illegally, but I'd just be interested to find out more info.
1 posted on 07/04/2008 7:08:28 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

There is more here than has been reported. Basically, we’re hearing only from the family side, and I’ve been around the block long enough here near Atlanta to know that....


2 posted on 07/04/2008 7:11:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick
I don't know the circumstances here but a young Irishman has been shot by police in the US, from what I can gather he appears to have had some mental problems and for what relevance it is worth he was in the country illegally, but I'd just be interested to find out more info.

You also should have mentioned that it appears he was involved in the burglary to which the police were responding. I highly doubt the police would have shot this man without a reason.

3 posted on 07/04/2008 7:15:33 AM PDT by lexusppd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer
There is more here than has been reported. Basically, we’re hearing only from the family side, and I’ve been around the block long enough here near Atlanta to know that....

Yep, it's a one sided story designed to gather sympathy for the family. Anything the police say now about the circumstances surrounding the shooting will be dismissed as a cover-up.

We don't know the officer's background, whether he has been involved in other confrontations, we don't know if the perp was armed or presumed to be armed or startled the officer to react in this way, or what.

Best to see all the evidence before passing judgement. And the family will not know anything until the investigation is complete.

They will not like the results either way it goes.

4 posted on 07/04/2008 7:17:23 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create divisiveness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

My family has lived in and around Silverton for years. Small town with lots of imports. He wasn’t shot because he was Irish.


5 posted on 07/04/2008 7:19:02 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments. Alexander the Great)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Hmmm.... an illegal whom the family admits had “problems.” Hailing from Dundrum, a Dublin neighborhood known as a rough, high crime area. While it is good to keep an open mind, for now my benefit of the doubt goes to the cop. Something we'll never know—because the timid Irish authorities won't cooperate—is whether this guy had a police record in Ireland.
6 posted on 07/04/2008 7:19:58 AM PDT by Godwin1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick
It's sad that one of the rules of doing an in depth, fair investigation of a situation requires shutting out the rest of the world while it's going on is the very thing that makes such investigations appear to be an attempt at a cover-up. It's certainly human nature to want to know what happened in a situation like this, especially for the mother of a young man who was shot and killed half-a-world away.

I don't know that these investigations, especially by an internal affairs type group, have any oversight by someone out side the system, but if not it would certainly go a long way in calming such appearances if they did.

I have no reason to question the conclusion of these investigations, but it sure seems to me as though some sort of third-party oversight would help ease the tensions that always accompany them.

7 posted on 07/04/2008 7:27:42 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick
-snip-

About six months ago, however, the family started to notice some problems with Hanlon's behavior. Though never ultimately was diagnosed with a specific mental illness, Hanlon suffered elements of paranoia and schizophrenia, Heise said.

Heise said Hanlon then began to come into frequent contact with the police. He said all the officers on the force knew him, and knew of his mental health issues. The Heises tried unsuccessfully to get Hanlon into some type of counseling program.

For a time, he was homeless, though they tried to provide him with some financial support and he was able to get an apartment. Still, at one point, Hanlon broke into their home, Heise said -- not for money or possessions, but to use the Internet.

-snip-

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/07/silverton_police_investigating.html

8 posted on 07/04/2008 7:36:18 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ( They told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lexusppd
You also should have mentioned that it appears he was involved in the burglary to which the police were responding. I highly doubt the police would have shot this man without a reason.

He may or may not have been involved with the burglary, he may have acted "wild" when confronted. We may never know, but we should find out a bit more than we have so far.

There is some more information Seatle Post Intelligencer where the young man is described as suffering "from paranoia and delusions" by his brother-in-law.

9 posted on 07/04/2008 7:54:07 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

How about everyone (city, family, media)steps back and gives the process that always occurs after any Police involved shooting gets conducted and proper answers are determined.


10 posted on 07/04/2008 7:56:00 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran.........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

Headline: “Cop shoots illegal alien burglar; Europeans whine.” On second thought, neither part of that ought to be news.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 7:56:49 AM PDT by tvdog12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dumpster Baby
About six months ago, however, the family started to notice some problems with Hanlon's behavior. Though never ultimately was diagnosed with a specific mental illness, Hanlon suffered elements of paranoia and schizophrenia, Heise said.

Could be a drug problem.

12 posted on 07/04/2008 7:57:29 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: El Gato

Heard of a case the other day where a person was waving a gun threatening to shoot himself. The Police held him off for a while then he pointed the gun at the them and they kind of wasted him.
I would venture to say his ORIGINAL intent was carried out, but of course the Police will be vilified.....


13 posted on 07/04/2008 8:03:03 AM PDT by xrmusn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

Not enough to go on.

The family itself says that he was having serious mental problems. So I would GUESS either that he had broken into a house (which he apparently had done before to “use the internet”) or that he happened to be in the area by bad luck, was acting strangely, and responded badly when he was given a warning by the police to put up his hands and surrender himself.

All this is pure speculation, but there’s certainly enough information given even by the family’s version of events to give the police the benefit of the doubt until more information is released.


14 posted on 07/04/2008 8:22:23 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick
my son will be just swept under the carpet

Y'know, this carpet is kind of lumpy. Maybe the padding is bunched up.

15 posted on 07/04/2008 8:29:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

It only happened on Monday night. They are probably still working the autopsy.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 8:33:14 AM PDT by donna (I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


17 posted on 07/04/2008 8:42:05 AM PDT by gubamyster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tvdog12345
Cop shoots illegal alien burglar; Europeans whine.
Deserves repeating.
They also forgot the standard family BS - "He was really a nice guy and was just starting to turn his life around."
18 posted on 07/04/2008 8:54:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

Because the cop couldn’t understand his accent, so he just shot him. What else?


19 posted on 07/04/2008 9:13:51 AM PDT by paristwelve
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick

was he shot during a burglary?


20 posted on 07/04/2008 9:51:52 AM PDT by spanalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson